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If he actually does then I reckon the Caf will blow up too :lol:
Hiroshima will seem like a fart in the wind next to this explosion..
 

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As great a player as he'd be. If he doesn't want to play for us, I don't want him. Same should apply for anyone.
 

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Hoping Pogba is sold this month?
If he doesn't want to play for us, we should have signed a replacement and be done with him. Of all the teams who finished ahead of us, only two had a midfielder who on paper is on par with Pogba. KdB and Eriksen.

What good did having a superstar do for us, when he could only be bothered half the time?

Why add another to the list?
 

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Possibly - personally if you had told me weeks ago we would sign Ndombele and Lo Celso this summer I'd have snapped your arm off. Dybala is never going to happen but I'm happy we are at least trying for a player of that level - shows ambition even if at the end we don't sign him.
I love how a Tottenham fan can say “at least we’re trying for a player of that level - shows ambition”....despite no real evidence that this is the case. A bit of gossip about United being in for him however with it maybe falling through and we’re treated to our own “fans” coming on here to tell us we’re embarrassing....Red Cafe is becoming much harder to read these days because of nonsense like this from these so-called fans......
 

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As great a player as he'd be. If he doesn't want to play for us, I don't want him. Same should apply for anyone.
What if, due to the club not having a clear project (unwillingness to spend over £100m in a window), only Lingard-quality players want to join us? I can’t believe you would be happy watching us then.
 

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Spurs would be a more fitting destination for him than us in a way but I've been wanting him to come here for years.... Fecking footie.
Would they feck....imagine a United fan thinking that....!?
 

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Will be very embarrassing for United if he does end up at Spurs. Levy’s known to be a tough negotiator aswell so you know it won’t be for financial reasons.

I blame the Glazers for allowing us to fall so far that even Spurs can look an even more attractive option than us. They’ve done feck all in modernising the stadium and they’ve let the club be run by a brand awareness specialist.
 

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Nothing but congratulations for Spurs if they manage to pull this one off - a proper statement signing, and yet given the strength of Liverpool and City, they won't have the media pressure that such a signing usually brings to win trophies. Very exciting times for Spurs (if it happens).
 

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Another WC player we'll miss out on because the deal was 'complicated'. Right thing to do. It worked out well with Ronaldinho, Robben and Hazard...
We were still successful despite not signing Ronaldinho?
 

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If we don't sign anyone else this will be a nightmarish transfer window.
It is a nightmarish transfer window regardless. Zero ambition. Instead of trying and get back to the top where we belong it feels like the club is Arsenaling its way into accepting the reality that we are no longer a big club.

To get back to the top we must splash the cash, there's no other way around it. City did it, PSG did it, Chelsea did it back in the day. That's the premium we have to pay to make big names come here without being able to offer them CL or a title challenge.
 

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Really though?
Not sure if serious.

We needed a direct replacement for the big #7 right after Becks left and Ronaldinho was supposed to be exactly that. Sure, we got Ronaldo instead, but it took him 4 years to hit his prime. With Ronaldinho we would've seen immediate effect, who knows might've added another CL and a few titles between 03-07.
 

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Not sure if serious.

We needed a direct replacement for the big #7 right after Becks left and Ronaldinho was supposed to be exactly that. Sure, we got Ronaldo instead, but it took him 4 years to hit his prime. With Ronaldinho we would've seen immediate effect, who knows might've added another CL and a few titles between 03-07.
There's also no reason to use him as an example of if we don't sign those players we won't be successful. Also, there's no saying the guy would have gone the way he did at Barca and start partying, fergie or no fergie.
 

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There's also no reason to use him as an example of if we don't sign those players we won't be successful. Also, there's no saying the guy would have gone the way he did at Barca and start partying, fergie or no fergie.
Who did that? I pointed out that penny pinching has denied us some fantastic players, who were willing to join us. Players who went on to be elite level.
 

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There's also no reason to use him as an example of if we don't sign those players we won't be successful. Also, there's no saying the guy would have gone the way he did at Barca and start partying, fergie or no fergie.
I'm speculating here, but I actually think that with Fergie he would've become even better than he was. Shame that his career went the way it went because talent wise he was above Messi and Ronaldo IMO. A very short career with around 3 prime years, but the best player i've seen in my lifetime.
 

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Who did that? I pointed out that penny pinching has denied us some fantastic players, who were willing to join us. Players who went on to be elite level.
Our management and some people are stuck in the past where we could sign any player we wanted only for the allure of playing for United. Times have changed, we have to play a premium for players to join us and that's the only way to get back to the top. We need to throw at them any price/salary/fee they demand.
 

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Will be very embarrassing for United if he does end up at Spurs. Levy’s known to be a tough negotiator aswell so you know it won’t be for financial reasons.

I blame the Glazers for allowing us to fall so far that even Spurs can look an even more attractive option than us. They’ve done feck all in modernising the stadium and they’ve let the club be run by a brand awareness specialist.
Nothing but congratulations for Spurs if they manage to pull this one off - a proper statement signing, and yet given the strength of Liverpool and City, they won't have the media pressure that such a signing usually brings to win trophies. Very exciting times for Spurs (if it happens).
Some of these posts are insane and whining for the sake of whining.

Spurs are not paying Dybala what they pay Kane, Eriksen and Alderweireld combined.

There is no whataboutism around Spurs signing Dybala and how embarrassing it is for United.

Another WC player we'll miss out on because the deal was 'complicated'. Right thing to do. It worked out well with Ronaldinho, Robben and Hazard...
And if we had paid the same as Sanchez and he failed after moving to a league he clearly doesn't want to, you lot would be complaining how stupid and embarrassing United are for signing him in the first place.

If you want something to complain, complain about why Woody didn't buy Ole a midfielder when Bruno and Ndombele were both being sold in this market. Not Dybala.
 
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Our management and some people are stuck in the past where we could sign any player we wanted only for the allure of playing for United. Times have changed, we have to play a premium for players to join us and that's the only way to get back to the top. We need to throw at them any price/salary/fee they demand.
Look, I can understand that we've had our fingers burned a few times, recently. Falcao, Di Maria, Sanchez etc. Paying big money only for players to flop but that the gamble. It's a risk worth taking because if it works out, like It did with Keane, Rio, Rooney, Ronaldo etc. then you'll more than likely be (more) successful.
I just don't get that we could have had a player of Dybala's quality as part of the lukaku deal but walked away, over a few million, a bit of complication or a bit of competition.

I understand that managers want players that are 100% committed to joining your club but it doesn't always have to be that way. Roy Keane had already 'joined' Blackburn only we offered a better deal and I'm sure we've done deals like that many more times.
 

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I understand that managers want players that are 100% committed to joining your club but it doesn't always have to be that way. Roy Keane had already 'joined' Blackburn only we offered a better deal and I'm sure we've done deals like that many more times.
But, but Di Maria, Sanchez... :lol:
 

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And if we had paid the same as Sanchez and he failed after moving to a league he clearly doesn't want to, you lot would be complaining how stupid and embarrassing United are for signing him in the first place.

If you want something to complain, complain about why Woody didn't buy Ole a midfielder when Bruno and Ndombele were both being sold in this market. Not Dybala.
I was all for signing Sanchez. He was the one best players in the league. I haven't complained that it didn't work out. It was the right thing to do and I'd take that chance every time. You don't pass up the opportunity to sign world class players just because some haven't worked out.

I've also advocated for signing both Bruno Fernandes and Ndombele, so I don't know what you're banging on about there. If you're gonna come in here, throwing shade, at least know what the feck you're talking about.

I like Ole's approach to signing players. Young, hungry, talented, dedicated players. It's a good formula and I hope the majority of our signings from now on, fit that mould but you also don't piss away the chance to sign genuine talent, over the sake of a few quid.
 

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Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
So much for a muppet wanking season...

This thread now has the sad atmosphere of a bunch of guys who turned up for a gangbang with a beautiful pornstar, but she didn't arrive, and now the guys are just milling around chatting to each other with earnest, disappointed faces and puzzled frowns - some naked, others in the process of pulling their clothes back on...
Occasionally one of them mentions there might be a slim chance another pornstar will turn up - but that is mainly greeted with scoffs and shrugs.

A few guys line the outskirts of the room - heroically attempting to tug themselves back to rigidity... but to no avail.

Everyone in the room is as floppy as an Eighties fringe...

Suddenly, a lone figure emerges, still erect somehow... and f*pping up a mighty muppet rhythm!

The men suddenly perk up - hopeful eyes - curious as to what new, strange transfer material this lone wa*ker must have access to...

The men approach nervously - their fellow fan is now furiously tugging away, clutching his iphone and gazing intensely at the screen.

Hopeful voices chirp up -

"What you got there, mate...? Is it about Bruno?"

"Hey, Buddy, is it Eriksen...?"

The figure stops jerking off and slowly turns to face the men... a hideous grin plastered across his face...

This is no muppet... this is...

@Keefy18 !

Keefy turns his iphone to the crowd of muppets - slowly revealing what he'd been furiously self-loving over...


 

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So much for a muppet wanking season...

This thread now has the sad atmosphere of a bunch of guys who turned up for a gangbang with a beautiful pornstar, but she didn't arrive
, and now the guys are just milling around chatting to each other with earnest, disappointed faces and puzzled frowns - some naked, others in the process of pulling their clothes back on...
Occasionally one of them mentions there might be a slim chance another pornstar will turn up - but that is mainly greeted with scoffs and shrugs.

A few guys line the outskirts of the room - heroically attempting to tug themselves back to rigidity... but to no avail.

Everyone in the room is as floppy as an Eighties fringe...

Suddenly, a lone figure emerges, still erect somehow... and f*pping up a mighty muppet rhythm!

The men suddenly perk up - hopeful eyes - curious as to what new, strange transfer material this lone wa*ker must have access to...

The men approach nervously - their fellow fan is now furiously tugging away, clutching his iphone and gazing intensely at the screen.

Hopeful voices chirp up -

"What you got there, mate...? Is it about Bruno?"

"Hey, Buddy, is it Eriksen...?"

The figure stops jerking off and slowly turns to face the men... a hideous grin plastered across his face...

This is no muppet... this is...

@Keefy18 !

Keefy turns his iphone to the crowd of muppets - slowly revealing what he'd been furiously self-loving over...


What the feck kind of comparison is that? You're kind of a weirdo/freak eh. To each their own.
 

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I understand that managers want players that are 100% committed to joining your club but it doesn't always have to be that way. Roy Keane had already 'joined' Blackburn only we offered a better deal and I'm sure we've done deals like that many more times.
We offered Keane less. He came to United because he wanted to play for United.
From what I remember reading in his book, Blackburn offered him 400k/year.. We offered him 350k/year and he said 50k meant nothing as he was getting to play at OT.
 

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We offered Keane less. He came to United because he wanted to play for United.
From what I remember reading in his book, Blackburn offered him 400k/year.. We offered him 350k/year and he said 50k meant nothing as he was getting to play at OT.
I'll stand corrected on that part then. I'm fairly certain when he told the story in a TV interview, he said after giving his word to Dalgliesh, he spoke to United and got a better offer.
 

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I'll stand corrected on that part then. I'm fairly certain when he told the story in a TV interview, he said after giving his word to Dalgliesh, he spoke to United and got a better offer.
"I was about £250,000 (a year) at Forest, which was a good deal. Blackburn offered me four hundred (thousand a year)," Keane said, before admitting he was tempted by Blackburn, as they were building an impressive side.
But Keane joined United for less money.

"They offered me three-hundred thousand a year," the former United captain said.
Keane goes on to say that United eventually offered £350,000 a year, and agreed to pay Forest £3.75m, a then British record transfer fee for a player.
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/roy-keane-reveals-how-much-he-was-first-paid-at-manchester-united-115260
didn't want to dig out the book to take a pic.. so googled.

I don't have a problem with us paying players more money.
Dybala is on ~200k/week. Most people switching jobs expect a little bump.. 250k.. sure dont care. I dont think he is that good, but wages will go up in the next few years and getting someone on a long term contract at those wages will probably be fine.

He apparently wants to double his wages.. close to 400k.. and also isn't keen on leaving Juventus. Maybe he likes it there.

I don't blame him. If I wasn't too keen on doing something, I would probably ask for crazy money too, to compensate for the inconvenience .

We have 2 options in that case, throw money at him and ask him to come over half heartedly.. or walk away..
I think we did the right thing..


Going back to the Keane example, even if we offered Keane more money to ditch Blackburn and join us, it wouldnt be the same. Keane was a winner.. That type of player isnt going to take the money and stop caring about performing.
We have had some terrible experiences in recent years.. and the money now has gotten to a point where a 5-6 year contract at 400k would mean Dybala could never push himself again be filthy rich .

Not every player is Roy Keane.
 

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I love how a Tottenham fan can say “at least we’re trying for a player of that level - shows ambition”....despite no real evidence that this is the case. A bit of gossip about United being in for him however with it maybe falling through and we’re treated to our own “fans” coming on here to tell us we’re embarrassing....Red Cafe is becoming much harder to read these days because of nonsense like this from these so-called fans......
Eh it's been stated everywhere we have agreed a fee with Juve.
 

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Eh it's been stated everywhere we have agreed a fee with Juve.
I think he's saying he's tired of United supporters being negative about every little shred of gossip.