Doping, whether legal or not is still doping though? Plus what Pep got banned for was Nandrolone, not fecking Ibuprofen. Also why should Pep be allowed to have his teams Dope if others don't get that option?
Pep - Doping (?) | Are PEDs being used by footballers
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Not a bad Twitter thread. I personally found the one that Avril Lavigne died several years ago and has since been replaced by a body double somewhat more convincing, but a good read nevertheless.
He's just stating facts isn't he? Can only be done for libel if it's a lie.
Leicester? Vardy must be taking stuff although might not be things that help him
.This is a good read, please read it all.
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2017/04/25/sharapova-guardiola-doping-darkness-and-light-250401/
Grow up, do you know me from any place to say something like that?
You say this is a forum like if I didn't know that, and when someone goes against your logic you come with crap arguments like that?
Find your friend from Twitter Sherlock instead of coming up with childish statements like this.
Good read that.
The fact that the Spanish courts destroyed evidence makes me very suspicious of Spanish sport in that era. Don't think City are illegally doping though.
I am going to read it now, maybe I will change my opinion on this, lets see.
Good article. Legal drugs that might give an advantage is certainly widespread as we suspect. Some might try to get away with some illegal stuff that works well as long as they don't get caught. Often it is those not even knowing they are cheating that get caught.
Error from staff around them can be as likely as the actual person knowing they are cheating. They have so much people around them dealing with the medical department.
All public knowledge. But like I said, he wouldn't be the only one. Football is too corrupt to think there's no doping involved.
I find it irritating that all other sports get dragged by Wada et al, but football seems untouchable. Nothing fair about that - either they're all able to do it, or they all get treated the same if they're caught doping. Testing in football should also be improved, but I wouldn't hold my breath thinking that would happen.
But his report on Pep's past habits is all public knowledge - so is the fact you're team broke anti doping rules 3 times in as many months.
yes that's correct but within a legal framework, doping gets you banned often permanently and retroactively while fraud gets you fined or points deducted for specific cases only, which is night and day from the offender's point of view.
Points here is Pep using PED might be obvious, but they might not even be illegal. Maybe the doctors have found similar drugs that are still not classified as illegal drugs? Something of that sort is probably very common in all sport.
The Nandrolone cases will never be well explained, it wasn't only Guardiola at the time, more players in Italy at the time had some problem, like Couto or Stam, the rest regarding suspitions about Barcelona and Segura, ok, but where are the proofs?
And if we talk about doping regarding football, clearly City is not the only one involved in this, strange fact is only coming with this regarding this season, last season they didn't doped I guess?
Don't know, maybe one day something credible will come from this, untill there we are speculating with something posted on a Twitter account, but ok everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I will stay out of this subject, not enough knowledge regarding this matter.
And if we talk about doping regarding football, clearly City is not the only one involved in this, strange fact is only coming with this regarding this season, last season they didn't doped I guess?
Don't know, maybe one day something credible will come from this, untill there we are speculating with something posted on a Twitter account, but ok everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I will stay out of this subject, not enough knowledge regarding this matter.
Another *!
I hope it turns out like the Russian drug scandal that has been a part of all his clubs. A documentary on them like Icarus maybe?
Have you considered all the negative tests ever since?
You would have to be very naive to think that all the top teams do not dope in football
The testing is a joke and one of the worst for the world's most popular sport
The testing is a joke and one of the worst for the world's most popular sport
He looks cracked anyways.
This.
http://www.dw.com/en/simon-all-sports-are-prone-to-doping/a-17391410 (All sports are prone to doping - according to German doping expert Perikles Simon) and https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829090950.htm (Doping in sports: Official tests fail to pick up majority of cases.)
yeah we had a similarly affected kid in our futsal team while playing the 3rd league at national level and he always had a copy of his medical papers with him in case he was chosen to give urine after a gameYeah it is funny cause I had ashtma and well I think maybe I could have been classified as doping. Not much control though in the lower leagues and I was never any good at running anyway so none would suspect me
Yes I think the question to ask is not if there is doping. The question to ask is how, how many and what do they use which can be very interesting.
No smoke without fire.
David Silva is probably on PED's. Wouldn't suprise me, have always said it since Pep took over.
I think it's naive to believe there is no doping in today's professional football, and also naive to think that there are significant differences between the top clubs. Especially in the PL with its notoriously packed schedule.
The circumstantial case is great but doesn't mean anything.
Agree with bolded part. If there was something going on for real, everybody else would try to prove it. Unless of course everyone else also does it anyway, and its that City do it better.
This is really incriminating. He should be made to forfeit 50 points at whichever club he is managing in the present.
Anyone dismissing doping in football is being seriously deluded. Not sure how big an offender City are relative to others but when you look at their style of football it's easy to see why they could be the biggest culprits.
Pep should be banned forever and City should be fined 10 points for each of the last 5 seasons
This could explain how David Silva suddenly turned into Gattuso against us in the derby. And probably why him and Pep are bald now.
Ahhh the old 'I can't really deny my boy is doing it so I'll incriminate everyone else' defence.
Yet Pep is the only one with a mountain of circumstantial evidence against him. Weird huh.
Have you got a source for that statistic? Quite alarming, if true.
It really is incredible how every player, coach and employee of clubs he has managed has kept the secret
Source like BBC's match report?
If he's been doing it then I'm sure others have too including us. I seriously doubt that big bad evil and his 'midgets' are the sole dopers in football while Jose, United, Ronaldo etc are the clean angels fighting the good fight.
The only one
A few seconds of googling turn up doping-related irregularities with all sorts of top clubs, yes, even those Pep never managed.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-dark-shadows-ahead-real-madrid-a7768061.html
https://www.joe.ie/sport/controvers...es-real-madrid-as-clients-in-court-case-46604
https://www.focus.de/sport/videos/m...ingt-fc-bayern-in-bedraengnis_id_6318221.html
lol. Some people just want to believe bullshit mate.
Bayern - Pep was the manager there too. Madrid? Easy, Pep was their biggest nemesis. Juventus? Well guess who drew against Juve as a Bayern boss. The plot thickens if you ask me, thank you for that investigation.The only one
A few seconds of googling turn up doping-related irregularities with all sorts of top clubs, yes, even those Pep never managed.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-dark-shadows-ahead-real-madrid-a7768061.html
https://www.joe.ie/sport/controvers...es-real-madrid-as-clients-in-court-case-46604
https://www.focus.de/sport/videos/m...ingt-fc-bayern-in-bedraengnis_id_6318221.html