Pep Guardiola | Leaving City: Official

Why would he take the Italy job? Would be interesting to see what he actually does with a national team as he can’t spend billions. I think only Spain are ready made to match his style of play
 
I genuinely don't think Pep is suited to international football.

You just don't get the time to do the heavy coaching he usually needs with his teams. International football is more about do the best with what you got and motivate them as much as possible.
 
Can't imagine that he would take the Italy job. There is absolutely nothing to work with there at all.

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I genuinely don't think Pep is suited to international football.

You just don't get the time to do the heavy coaching he usually needs with his teams. International football is more about do the best with what you got and motivate them as much as possible.
That's why i think it would have to be Spain because a huge part of his philosophy is already installed in those player's brains. Maybe Portugal at a push but don't really see him being interested.
 
Can't imagine that he would take the Italy job. There is absolutely nothing to work with there at all.

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How many English/Italian players has he signed over the last decade at City? I'd take that as an outright indicator of the appetite he could have for either role. I.e. none.

It just hit me he gave them an entire fecking decade :mad:

There's Kyle Walker, Raheem Sterling, John Stones, Grealish, Kalvin Phillips from memory. He Brought Foden through.

Half the England team was City at one point and I've suggested Pep for England years ago, would've been a great fit, not sure what you mean in your post about not signing any English players.
 
There's no chance he's taking the Italy job, he won't want to risk his reputation as one of the all time greats with an average national team.

My guess is that this has come out as news to gauge whether Spain would be interested in him if de la Fuente has felt he's done all he can in the role.
I think no chance is a dangerous statement
 
Why would he take the Italy job? Would be interesting to see what he actually does with a national team as he can’t spend billions. I think only Spain are ready made to match his style of play

I think Morocco could work with his philosophy and Portugal without Ronaldo.
 
There's Kyle Walker, Raheem Sterling, John Stones, Grealish, Kalvin Phillips from memory. He Brought Foden through.

Half the England team was City at one point and I've suggested Pep for England years ago, would've been a great fit, not sure what you mean in your post about not signing any English players.
I didn't say not signing any but genuinely asking how regular/prevalent and their characteristics.

Off the top of my head I could only think of foreigners as his key system players over the years and a fair few "young stars" he let go without bothering much at all (e.g. our shiny Dortmund turd and Palmer). Only John Stones came to mind as a classic Pep player and he isn't exactly a typical English CB.

Your list actually feels a bit like a bunch of cogs/bit part players, not ones he built around. That said, it would be an interesting exercise to work out what a Pep English starting XI would look like. There's quite a few players that would fit in well having thought about it.
 
Very curious to see how he would cope in an environment where he doesn't have unlimited finance and/or one of the best players of all time available to him.
 
How many English/Italian players has he signed over the last decade at City? I'd take that as an outright indicator of the appetite he could have for either role. I.e. none.

It just hit me he gave them an entire fecking decade :mad:
I think quite a few English players? Walker, Stones, Grealish, tried for Kane and Maguire. Brought through Foden. Guehi etc.
 
Ole had his number numerous of times. He’s not invincible.
His record vs Pep was W4 D1 L4.
One of Ole's wins was in the 2nd Leg of a LCSF when United still lost on aggregate.
One of the few annoyances City fans had about Pep was that he didn't seem to prioritise Derby matches in the same way we did.
 
I think quite a few English players? Walker, Stones, Grealish, tried for Kane and Maguire. Brought through Foden. Guehi etc.
He managed a team in England so it was to be expected. Not exactly key players he built his sides around though. Stones probably the most Pep player there.
 
Relevant player in his system, sure. So, who would be England's current Kyle Walker?
No idea. Just seems a weird angle to suggest he wouldn’t work with England because he hasn’t signed English players in the past decade. He’s signed plenty of English players so I don’t really get the point. Pep has proven to be extremely adaptable in his approach during his time in English football. Just look at his last team vs some of his earlier ones. He’s not restricted to any one type of player at all.
 
Very curious to see how he would cope in an environment where he doesn't have unlimited finance and/or one of the best players of all time available to him.
Me too. It would be very interesting imo. According to people who worked for barca in balagues book, the barca b job was supposed to be extremely difficult at that time, but pep succeeded. Perhaps they were just bigging up pep.
 
That's why i think it would have to be Spain because a huge part of his philosophy is already installed in those player's brains. Maybe Portugal at a push but don't really see him being interested.
I think he is too Pro-Cataloninan Independence to be Spain manager. That said he is also a massive hypocrite so can't completely rule it out.
 
Feel he'll reject them in the end. But would be great if another big name takes over a NT.
 

Hes very conscious of where he works. So far hes always been at places where he has the resources to win and being able to mold things into his way. Therefore if hes gonna manage NT its Spain he would go after in my opinion because Spanish players fit him like gloves on top of it being his own country. I dont think Italian football fits Pep and you cant just pick and sign players... its a rather fixed squad. He can change things for the long term and build things ground up but why bother? Spain would love to have him he only needs to say the words
 
Hes very conscious of where he works. So far hes always been at places where he has the resources to win and being able to mold things into his way. Therefore if hes gonna manage NT its Spain he would go after in my opinion because Spanish players fit him like gloves on top of it being his own country. I dont think Italian football fits Pep and you cant just pick and sign players... its a rather fixed squad. He can change things for the long term and build things ground up but why bother? Spain would love to have him he only needs to say the words
Im almost certain he would work with England if they approached him - and gave him free reign.

They wont though!
 
No idea. Just seems a weird angle to suggest he wouldn’t work with England because he hasn’t signed English players in the past decade. He’s signed plenty of English players so I don’t really get the point. Pep has proven to be extremely adaptable in his approach during his time in English football. Just look at his last team vs some of his earlier ones. He’s not restricted to any one type of player at all.
I agree he has been more adaptable at City, that's probably the hack that kept him interested in the job for ten years.

Of course he has had English players being at an English club, but they have been comparatively few. He has been far more inclined to resort to homegrown players he can shape and drill from early on (e.g. Foden, Nico O'Reilly, Rico Lewis). Stones and Walker did fit his base template so he signed them straight away in his first year. Can't think of any good signings since bar Guehi which was with him already on the way out.

Adaptable or not, there are certain required foundations, both technical and in tactical discipline, which are clearly massively relevant to him and out of his immediate control as a NT manager.

Maybe he has the appetite to engage in a long-ass grassroots project while sipping wine in Italy. They have missed three WC in a row so has a low bar to deal with. I don't think so, but I think it's even less likely he will engage in that for England with the pressure that it brings along. Been there, done it, he is not walking into that nightmare unless he has a very clear view of how he can get immediate results with existing resources.

What does a Pep England XI look like today? I have a hard time fitting the pieces with any conviction. Too many very good "same type player" and not much glue to bring it all together. Mind you, not just a Pep problem.
 
Guardiola, Klopp,Tuchel battles at international level with international football restrictions will be grand.
Much more interesting than whatever’s been happening at club level football for awhile imo.

Its like, some pointless, insignificant state owned small club from the north of France won 2 CL titles in a row, did anyone actually care? Did people actually watch their games?

That Barca team that walked La Liga, will anyone remember them in 5-10 years, the kids are alright though.
That Arsenal team that won the PL is a generational insult to the sport.
Bayern in the bundesliga? No one outside of Germany cared or watched any of it.
I don’t even know who won the Serie A last season.
Club football feels utterly stale at this day and age, to me.
 
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Hes very conscious of where he works. So far hes always been at places where he has the resources to win and being able to mold things into his way. Therefore if hes gonna manage NT its Spain he would go after in my opinion because Spanish players fit him like gloves on top of it being his own country. I dont think Italian football fits Pep and you cant just pick and sign players... its a rather fixed squad. He can change things for the long term and build things ground up but why bother? Spain would love to have him he only needs to say the words
Not sure if famously Pro-Catalonia Pep Guardiola would be interested in managing Spain really.
 
Guardiola, Klopp,Tuchel battles at international level with international football restrictions will be grand.
Much more interesting than whatever’s been happening at club level football for awhile imo.

Its like, some pointless, insignificant state owned small club from the north of France won 2 CL titles in a row, did anyone actually care? Did people actually watch their games?

That Barca team that walked La Liga, will anyone remember them in 5-10 years, the kids are alright though.
That Arsenal team that won the PL is a generational insult to the sport.
Bayern in the bundesliga? No one outside of Germany cared or watched any of it.
I don’t even know who won the Serie A last season.
Club football feels utterly stale at this day and age, to me.
Will be disappointed he's not representing us in that
 
Guardiola, Klopp,Tuchel battles at international level with international football restrictions will be grand.
Much more interesting than whatever’s been happening at club level football for awhile imo.

Its like, some pointless, insignificant state owned small club from the north of France won 2 CL titles in a row, did anyone actually care? Did people actually watch their games?

That Barca team that walked La Liga, will anyone remember them in 5-10 years, the kids are alright though.
That Arsenal team that won the PL is a generational insult to the sport.
Bayern in the bundesliga? No one outside of Germany cared or watched any of it.
I don’t even know who won the Serie A last season.
Club football feels utterly stale at this day and age, to me.
Now they will be the state (or at least its football association/federation)