Love this, well done.
Pep Guardiola Threatens to quit Man City
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Cherki legit cost 35m sadly.
Some absolute bellends journalists spread the nonsense rumors about his attitude which most of Europe apparently bought so it wasn't like there were many bids to compete with City's
Everytime he almost left the club it was for poverty fees. PSG was about to buy him for 20m in 2024 before he turned them down for Dortmund who themselves pulled out after Sahin got appointed and vetoed the transfer.
Last summer the club badly needed money to be in the clear and not be relegated so there was no room to negotiate whatsoever even after a 30+ G/A season
He’s an insufferable prick that takes paychecks and fronts an authoritarian regime. He does not deserve respect. It’s also not a lazy jab. I care about women’s and minorities rights which is something Guardiola doesn’t give two shits about.
I mean, Cancelo and Laporte would have went for 50m combined easily. Mahrez for 30 is pushing it but not by a lot given his stature in the middle east..
You also completely missed my point which was that hording young players preciesly to break ffp is an issue and much bigger than an extra 15-20m from Saudi over 5 years. The last 5 seasons City had transfer income of
102.5m, 141.7m, 138.8m, 162.17m, 93.8m. 640m and you think over paying for Mahrez, a player with huge value in the middle east at the time is the problem? The problem is much deeper.
We all do on the internet
Not all of us can have platforms with a mic, so even if he doesn't give 2 shits about them (which, how on earth would you know), and is a masochist just addicted to abuse from online people, unless there's no harm done by his comments, no foul. And a coach of his magnitude saying these things when his peers are silent for the most part is a good thing. Separate from his employment. No need to give him kudos (he's not asking for that). Just stating a fact
What
That’s just plan wrong.
No, it isn't
Criticism of Guardiola for his employment at City (to an extent valid) can be separated from his vocal stances on Palestine, ICE, Sudan, etc, unless you either
1. Loathe him so much that you'd rather he shut the feck up forever about anything (which, ok, it's your right), or
2. Support what he is speaking against
Unless you're, I dunno, Mandela, it's likely you'll have actions in your life that people can point to as reasons that invalidate whatever cause you're speaking for. Which is bullshit of course. At worse those actions make you a hypocrite, but the CEO of Exxon saying there is global warming doesn't make it any less true
But then again this is getting eerily close to the Henderson situation which so many were rabid about, so that's all I'll say on this
No they wouldn’t, because Cancelo went on loan twice and clubs wouldn’t take on his wages permanently. As a United fan, I’ve seen first hand the golden handcuffs that are inflated wages.
I completely agree, the academy player sales stink, but the point I was originally making was that in the last 5 seasons, which Pep was quoting, Saudi had two summers where they slung a load of money at (unwanted) players and that revenue wasn’t evenly distributed. I’m not crying foul, it was a bit of a lottery, but it did inject unexpected and inflated revenues into the coffers of certain clubs, Chelsea, Liverpool and City being the chief beneficiaries, and not others, which massages the figures in their favour.
It also got clubs out of sticky situations. I mean, Chelsea basically got their money back on Koulibaly and he was a disaster for them on a huge contract. Liverpool got a big fee for Fabinho who was obviously finished and a fee for Darwin they’d have never got from a European side.
Interesting.
Not surprised Utd top the table having bought three strikers.
His peak has passed. It happens to every manager, doesn't matter how good you are.
I think that more successful/shrewd clubs more actively look for opportunities to sell players while they still have some use. I think United are more prone to hang on to aspiring talent and players at their peak so by the time we're ready to sell, there are fewer takers. Casemiro has been good for us but honestly I don't see any of those mentioned clubs acquiring him. They probably would have sold Bruno as well.
Sorry, but that is a false dichotomy.
Guardiola is clearly aware of the impact of abusive political authority, and the need for a humanist approach, yet accepts thousands of pounds a week to become the acceptable face of its opposite.
It isn't 'blind hatred' or 'tacit support of who he criticises' to point out these facts.
Sold their best player in his prime? Haha. Like Silva, De Bruyne, Aguero, Bernardo?
Like fuxk they would.
Chelsea bought a 31 year old Koulibaly to be fair.
Is the fact that he's openly talking about Sudan indicate of the fact that he knows he won't be employed by Abu Dhabi behind this season?
I agree with this. He took their money for several years - bad - but now he's on the way out he's drawing attention to things his bosses are involved in - good. He didn't have to say anything, especially as he is still a City employee, and him speaking up while still employed will (and has) bring more attention to it. Doesn't mean he's not a lot of other things, and I do think his employment at City makes him a hypocrite, but I can also respect the things he is saying now, separately.
I agree with this. He took their money for several years - bad - but now he's on the way out he's drawing attention to things his bosses are involved in - good. He didn't have to say anything, especially as he is still a City employee, and him speaking up while still employed will (and has) bring more attention to it. Doesn't mean he's not a lot of other things, and I do think his employment at City makes him a hypocrite, but I can also respect the things he is saying now, separately.
Good points
Maybe Chelsea in their new private equity phase where profits is more important than success
@adexkola I’ve never seen a more accurate tagline.
it’s more the statement than anything specific to Guardiola .
Being an enabler or an accomplice to something and then subsequently speaking out against similar things is deffo not better than someone who isn’t any of those things and doesn’t speak out against those things.
For example, Hollywood’s elite and global warming. They speak out against it but subsequently fly thousands of hours in private jets doing 45 minute journeys.
On the other end of the scale, your Joe average who’s never even boarded a flight doesn’t carry a voice so doesn’t speak out.
Are you suggesting the first example are having more impact on fighting global warming than the second? Purely because they “say true things” whilst the other doesn’t say anything.
Don't care what anyone says about his comments, he's spot fecking on. Also don't care about hypocrisy or motive. Everything he said is/was true about all those conflicts and general violence.
Fair play to him. As for that BBC article (threatening Jewish people in Manchester): feck all the way off. All he did was basically call Gaza what it is. He didn't even mention Jewish people.
Fair play to him. As for that BBC article (threatening Jewish people in Manchester): feck all the way off. All he did was basically call Gaza what it is. He didn't even mention Jewish people.
I read the article, he could have been talking about any conflict etc Ukraine or so. Abit bizzare article to have a go at him.
People calling him a hypocrite make me laugh. Like a Spanish manager cares about what’s happening in another country. Most would do the same in his position, everyone talks a big game but wouldn’t act upon it.
Why, exactly? It's not quite clear in your post.
Oh no, he said something against Israel. He's a horrible person and quite frankly was always overrated if you ask me.
It's your right to dislike him but don't think you can be objective given it's clear you don't like the guy.
Well said.
Each to their own but not many people in this world would stand on what they believe. If they were offered crazy money, they would take it. You may get the one but not many.
It’s a shit world everywhere, honest hard workers don’t get anything. That’s just my experience working in different industries.
Yeah great, he’s spoken up and said some things. In the time that he spent saying those things, he was paid more by his warlord, sportswashing, human-rights-abusing, regional-destabilising employers than most of us get paid in a few years of honest salary. If it really meant that much to him, then he’d have never agreed to be the front of the vanity project in the first place. Don’t, for goodness sake, say that nobody else in his position would’ve turned it down; of course they would’ve if they shared the same values most normal people have and were offered a ton of money elsewhere. The two-faced hypocrite. Shame on those who are too cowardly to use their platform to ask him these questions.
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I’m pretty sure he mentioned the war in Sudan. Sudan, a country which has complained bitterly about funding from the UAE, namely Pep’s bosses, to the paramilitary group engaged in the war.
Is this his way out? Talk to much and they will sack him?
No, I think it’s him no longer caring because he’ll be gone in the summer.
Yeah this is just him thinking about trying to write his legacy, or re-write his history, before he slinks off in to the shadows.
How would Pep have possibly made a living without taking the money from a state with an awful human rights record?
They look terrible.
Finally gets an Anfield win infront of a crowd as a swansong.
How terrible? Because i am quite confident that this Anfield win will be a turning point in their season..
They still look poor and the result said more about Liverpool than them.
I think if they overhaul Arsenal it would take a generous amount of luck. They probably would fancy a cup run though and beating Arsenal in the league cup.
He’s got scratches on his head again.
He's speaking well again, after being asked about our racist co-owner.
He could have abstained from making excuses for Ratcliffe (not part of the quote here), but the rest of what he said was alright.
As ever, Pep's utterances only say more about what he is not saying.
His views on those paying him thousands a week would be a good start.
We don't need hypocrites to highlight what we already know.
Another thing i remember is that with the whole super league thing a few years back. Is that it was him that was the first big voice speaking out against it, it seemed like the catalyst for it's downfall.
Even though there was unintentional irony in what he said. Football is nothing without competition or something similar
Even though there was unintentional irony in what he said. Football is nothing without competition or something similar
I know the terms can be a bit confusing, but I think Old Jimmy’s comments were more xenophobic than racist.