No he doesn't. He's injured. Even when fit Ole probably doesn't trust him.
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How many injuries has he had? Feels like he has been out for half the time at least post SAF.
When is his testimonial due?
He's had 20 registered injuries.
More importantly, though, he has missed 123 matches. That's...a lot. Amounts to several seasons worth of football.
What is the bloody problem? Since I think it is not the same injury happening over and over.
No, it's not - quite a selection: knee, toe, back, hamstring, ankle, shinbone, shoulder...and more.
His "footballing" brain.
So stupid tackles and movement that risk his own body? Same with Rojo I guess, but even worse from him.
I guess he does the same in training.
Phil Jones should look at shifting to a mid-table club where, if he can remain injury-free, would be a starter. He may not like to end his career sitting on the bench which seems his destiny at United.
Certainly not, Phil is somewhat of a medical marvel in that i don't think he's injured the same part of his body twice. But he has manged to systematically injure almost every part of his anatomy in turn over the last decade.
Which in a way is quite impressive when you think about it.
Big if, which probably explains why he's happy to sit in the stands at United picking up a decent wage.
I don't think he is happy at all. Players like to play. Not everyone is Romero!
Ironically he’s been bashed for so long that he’s starting to become underrated by United fans now. He’s not at the elite level, but in a very good team he is a decent backup. It’s just were arent at the peak 2012-2013 level for him to slot in for 20 games.
He needs to move on, keep injury free and have a good 5 years or so in the PL
He needs to move on, keep injury free and have a good 5 years or so in the PL
So that's roughly 3 seasons...
Amazing the club still insist on keeping him this long.
Superb decision.
Bailly is like that too to an extent.
Him recently signing a new 4 year contract for roughly the same wages he was on would suggest he’s pretty happy.
He should retire to be honest.
Its something difficult to do, when you still have clubs that would pay him a wage. He doesn't even need to play.
I doubt he'd even pass a medical if we were to sell him.
224 apps in all competitions since2011. I’m sure that includes substitutions
Shocking
Shocking
Only at United post Sir Alex these mediocre players can hope to be awarded such ridiculous contracts. Jones, Baily, Rojo need to be get rid of asap.
Looking at this: https://www.transfermarkt.com/phil-jones/verletzungen/spieler/117996
Only his arm and hand are immune to injuries.
Just 3 more years, just 3 more years..
Only his arm and hand are immune to injuries.
Just 3 more years, just 3 more years..
Love the last one: “ill”
In 8 of those seasons, he’s had 7/8 week absences.
Still 3 years on his contract? fecking insane. Makes Sanchez look like value.
At the end of next season, but I believe he's already said that he won't be having one.
It's amazing that we managed to collect all three of them. Jones, Bailly and Rojo. The true chuckle brothers (it was always unfair that Smalling got thrown in the same group). All rash, prone to make stupid tackles (Jones less than the other two), prone to stupid defensive mistakes (Rojo less), all ridiculously injury prone, but all able to have just enough matches where they look damn good that they keep their spot in the squad.
Going by transfermarkt:
Phil Jones: 9 seasons. Missed 123 games.
Marcos Rojo: 5.5 seasons. Missed 93 games.
Eric Bailly: 4 seasons. Missed 62 games.
Statistically, Rojo and Bailly have actually been even worse than Jones.
They've both had a couple of really big injuries which have blown their stats out a bit though, whereas Jones gets more smaller injuries.I've read a lot of people here saying the usual "we will be stocked at CB for 10 years with Jones and Smalling, England too"...
Well, really hard to "destock".
Well, really hard to "destock".
Hindsight is a funny thing. We could say the same for Sancho and yet he’ll end up being a gigantic waste of money and a one trick pony. You just never really know till it’s done.
If you do the math:
He’s been involved in 224 games - played a total of 17.191 minutes according to Transfermarkt. That translates to 191 90-minute games. In nine..... fecking..... years. And we still negotiated a new contract with him in 2019.
It is starting half the game. Which is not that bad since he has not been first choice for half the time. I thought it would be less to be honest.
Jones was chased by all the top English clubs. He was rated as having top class potential.
Him be coming injury ravaged is a terrible shame and not something to laugh at anyone for.
Unless you think all the top clubs were mugs based on something happening years down the line.
Unless only you knew better?
That works out as 20 full games per season. Harry Maguire has played 53 games already in 2019/20. Although, yeah, I’m actually surprised he’s played that many. Must have racked up a lot of games before getting perma-crocked these last few years.
He played 104 matches in his first three seasons. Then 120 in his next six.
He really was quite an exciting player in those first few seasons. Versatile too. Had the potential to be a much better version of John O’ Shea. Shame it all went tits up.
I think sometimes when a player knows the fans dont like them and manager doesnt rate them, they lose appetite and tend to milk these injuries more to look ‘injured’ rather than have the embarrassment of being fit and never selected. The guys already said he would be embarassed by a testimonial.
I think he would be a good low cost signing for someone like leeds - bring them some pl experience etc
Yeah I thought it was just league games to be honest. Now it makes more sense. I guess he played more in the cups too under SAF.
Agreed
Is it that difficult to sell players like Rojo/Jones/Perrera/Jesse ? We need to get rid of these 4 (at least on loan to cover their salaries) along with Mata/Bailly and Smalling and then buy a RW/DM/CD. That would be a great summer for me.
I know 7 out and just 3 IN but we all know those 7 are not really contributing anything. When we all can see these things why board are wasting money on big salaries for players like this ?
I agree and I didn't laughed and I didn't know it either. But I wonder how people following the game could claim that sort of things on a regular basis is beyond me.
There's always that bit of luck with all parts of a career. One injury at the wrong time can ruin it all.
The main saving grace for Jonesy, as much as it doesn't help us, is that this massive run of injuries happened when he was already set for life, rather than at say 12-15 when it may well have ended any prospect of being a footballer.
To be fair to Jones he’s never been as bad as Varane vs City.
A few Phil Jones Stats:
Last 5 seasons in the league he's completed 5,484mins.
That's an average of 1096.8mins a season which results in playing 32% of each season.
He's completed over 2,000mins in the league twice.
He's had 20 injuries in his career and the longest injury was missing 13 games.
He's missed a total of 744 days which equates to 135 games due to injuries.
He's managed 2 goals at United in the league and scored 3 own goals.
He’s been hitting injuries ever since the year we signed him as far I can remember. I think that’s just the way how he is. He plays lot of games for us but it seems that he always play like 10 games and then miss 5 games, play another 10 and miss 5. Hargreaves is the one probably I would say being unlucky with his injury.
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