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Can he revive his career?
Philippe Coutinho | Aston Villa player | deal made perm
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Can he revive his career?
Just in time for a debut and winner against us no doubt.
It's a big coup for Villa, but whether he can find his old form? we shall see.
It's a big coup for Villa, but whether he can find his old form? we shall see.
Great signing for Villa.
If he can find form that was even half as good as he had at Liverpool, that is some coup for them.
He’s gone there with his connections to stevie G. If he can get him playing anything like his Liverpool days and keep him fit, he will be some signing for them. They have a decent squad actually. Always a tricky team to play and seem to be investing.
If he revive his Liverpool form then what a signing. But unfortunately most of the time when a player drops off this much they never hit those highs again, but could still be a good player for them.
Villa are our next 2 games...
Fantastic signing, playing under his mate Slippy too.
How old is he? I always thought he was a terrific player and couldn’t understand why it didn’t work out for him at Barca.
Always played well against us. Which is a worry.
It could be a great signing, but the same was said of Rodriguez to Everton. We'll see I suppose.
He was always overrated, and there is a reason why Liverpool sold him and managed to do better without him. If you need the best out of him everything needs to go through him, and he is not that good for top team to be built around him.
Great signing for Villa though, and I reckon they can make him work really well considering they've had similar type of player in similar position in Grealish.
Great signing for Villa though, and I reckon they can make him work really well considering they've had similar type of player in similar position in Grealish.
He'll be the Alexis Sanchez of Villa!
Meh. We should know better than anyone that signing a big name who was forced out of his club isn't necessarily a good thing. Let's see
His best position is the same as Messi... Was never going to work with both of them in the team and only one of them was going to win that game time.
Be interesting to see how he does at Villa, maybe suits him to be the biggest fish in the pond.
If nothing else I'm looking forward to the absolute bangers he'll inevitably score
Good signing for Villa.
Probably wont hit those liverpool heights but think hell do ok for Villa.
Probably wont hit those liverpool heights but think hell do ok for Villa.
Balague doesn't seem to think he'll cope back in the PL
Probably their replacement for Grealish.
Should do well, however once players fail after moving to a different league, they hardly make or get their form back do they?
Should do well, however once players fail after moving to a different league, they hardly make or get their form back do they?
He’s looked absolutely horrendous for ages now. I think he’ll ultimately flatter to decide.
There’s a reason that he ended up at Villa.
There’s a reason that he ended up at Villa.
I'm expecting James Rodriguez at Everton levels. Sometimes great wildly inconsistent.
How can you go from being a £140m signing at age 25 to being on loan at Villa at age 29?
Bit of a no brainer for Villa really. Top signing for them. Loan with them paying less than half his wages with an option to buy? No reason not to do it under those conditions. He was class in the EPL so he’s easily worth a punt.
Well, it's not really a £140m signing, it's a £140m, Bartomeu's-Barça signing, which means it was an embarrassingly overpriced transfer even at the time.
Finally got their Grealish replacement.
I think he’ll do better than James and he knows the league already. Great signing by Villa
Always felt like Liverpool could barely believe their luck when Barca made the offer. The man was always massively overpriced. I wouldn’t have paid half of that for him.
He'll have 5 good games and then get fed up and disappear into obscurity again. Like James at Everton but probably without the bizarre testicular injuries.
Great loan signing for Villa ….will be interesting to see how he does
Edit: just noticed as well as FA cup, Utd play Villa Saturday week .…nice timing ffs!
Edit: just noticed as well as FA cup, Utd play Villa Saturday week .…nice timing ffs!
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Balague talks shite but in fairness, Coutinho has declined massively, especially physically. I expect a good start followed by average performances that’ll see him out the squad near the end of the season.
James Rodriguez problem are his injuries and his attitude. But if he is fit he is for sure a class higher than Coutinho even if both just have a left foot - but James is far more creative and is having a much better eye for situations. If Coutinho gets near the box his only idea is to shoot even if their is not really a big possibility - he reminded me a lot on Douglas Costa - just without the speed and less dribbling ability. He gets his teammates frustrated very often. If you look at his Liverpool days the major difference was that he had a lot of confidence and converted this worldies - what he did not in other times of his career. It is interesting to see his shot map on https://understat.com/player/488 (scroll down to the graphic - you can choose the different seasons) especially in comparison of the single seasons. The numbers he had during his Bayern time are a little misleading as he only scored in a handful of matches mostly against teams on relegation ranks - that is when stats do not tell you the whole story.
But he might work better in a team with less ball possession.
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They sold him and managed to do better without him because Barca paid stupid money and they were able to buy better players
Biggest poser of the last 10 years. Depay following closely.
A nothing player, just a few good months with Klopp.
A nothing player, just a few good months with Klopp.
And?
That's why I said he is overrated, if Barca paid him 30-50m then it's a good piece of business, but paying him that stupid money is ridiculous.
So? Whats your point?
Liverpool did better cause they were able to buy better players with stupid money Barca paid.
Yeah I've always wondered how many examples there are of players' form dropping off a cliff (for an extended period, not like De Gea or currently Maguire) and then being able to refind it.
Some actually do not fall of the cliff but have because of team changes, injuries or system/coach changes different roles that do not get the best out of them. Some are just inconsistent or had a period in which everything went for them.
Guaranteed to put one top-bins against us. 100%.
Not at all, his best period at Liverpool came under Rodgers, not Klopp.
He'll be off to Brazil within a year