Players PL Stats | James most fouled, Pogba tops Through balls..?

[Web of Bissaka]

Official website: https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-premier-league-miscellaneous-stats-from-2019-20

Some of the stats,

Most through balls completed: Paul Pogba - 5.​

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Most fouls drawn: Daniel James - 50.​

Most crosses: Daniel James - 88.​

Most assists: Daniel James - 6.​

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Most substitute appearances: Mason Greenwood - 18.​

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Most total shots: Marcus Rashford - 65.​

Most shots on target: Anthony Martial, Marcus Rashford - 28.​

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Most yellow cards: Fred - 7.​

Most presses: Fred - 680.​

Most corners: Fred - 42.​

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Most blocks: Aaron Wan-Bissaka - 87.​

Most tackles: Aaron Wan-Bissaka - 109.​

Most games: David De Gea, Harry Maguire - 29.​

Most starts: David De Gea, Harry Maguire - 29.​

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Most completed passes: Harry Maguire - 1,513.​

Most headed passes: Harry Maguire - 90.​

Most interceptions: Harry Maguire - 56.​

Most clearances: Harry Maguire - 201.​

Most aerial duels won: Harry Maguire - 150.​

Most touches: Harry Maguire - 2,080.​

Data Source: https://fbref.com/en/squads/19538871/Manchester-United

 

[Web of Bissaka]

Damn it Mag, stop hogging all the stats!

 

[Snafu17]

Most through balls completed: Paul Pogba - 5.

He missed most of the season ffs. It's no wonder we were abysmal creatively until Bruno arrived.

 

[Red00012]

That Pogba stat is damning. It just shows what creativity we have without him and pre the Bruno arrival.

yet it’s Pogba out

 

[roonster09]

Pogba's stat is even better as he is among the top in PL too.

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[Tom Cato]

A motivated Pogba, a in form Bruno and Rashford + Greenwood taking new development leaps has my mouth salivating with Premier league contender daydreams

 

[gerdm07]

A motivated Pogba, a in form Bruno and Rashford + Greenwood taking new development leaps has my mouth salivating with Premier league contender daydreams

Add Maguire and AWB, two of the better defenders in the world, we have the start of something special. Go Ole!

 

[tenpoless]

Five and top. Played 23% of the matches.
Lingard, Pereira, Mata. What are They?

 

[Infra-red]

Pogba's stat is even better as he is among the top in PL too.

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Perhaps we should be looking at Buendia.

Impressive stuff.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Throughball stats are basically meaningless. It’s a pass that the best players in the league apparently only make once ever 4-5 matches. It’s an irrelevant and shit stat.

Not to mention each site doesn’t even seem to have the same numbers.

 

[Sayros]

Pogba's stat is even better as he is among the top in PL too.

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That is pretty incredible when put into context. It's equally impressive of Pogba and damning of the rest of the team and the other players listed.

 

[Dante]

I've always said that Buendia was a better player than De Bruyne.

 

[jem]

A motivated Pogba, a in form Bruno and Rashford + Greenwood taking new development leaps has my mouth salivating with Premier league contender daydreams

Just imagine if Martial gets some consistency.

 

[Rozay]

Just imagine if Martial gets some consistency.

Judging from his post I don’t think he wants to imagine Martial at all!

 

[Brightonian]

Goes to show that Pogba really was our only effective creative midfielder before Bruno arrived. No wonder with him missing for most of the campaign we've been creatively barren. James being our top assist-maker is damning too.

It really is going to be a whole different story with Pogba and Bruno starting together behind Martial and Rashford and Greenwood/James/Sancho 8I

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

That Pogba stat is damning. It just shows what creativity we have without him and pre the Bruno arrival.

yet it’s Pogba out

You'll be surprised to see the amount of people who want him out when you go visit the transfer thread of Would you sell Pogba to finance a deal for Sancho?

 

[Rozay]

You'll be surprised to see the amount of people who want him out when you go visit the transfer thread of Would you sell Pogba to finance a deal for Sancho?

That was after the Mods locked the performance thread and for a brief period, there was nowhere to post general anti-Pog musings (the Juventus shirt thread had run out of steam). So an exploratory ‘would you sell Pogba for Sancho’ and a ‘swap deals (e.g Pogba)’ one was quickly created so that there was somewhere safe to meet and vent.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

That was after the Mods locked the performance thread and for a brief period, there was nowhere to post general anti-Pog musings (the Juventus shirt thread had run out of steam). So an exploratory ‘would you sell Pogba for Sancho’ and a ‘swap deals (e.g Pogba)’ one was quickly created so that there was somewhere safe to meet and vent.

I don’t know what’s your point there because doesn’t really matter when or what reason the thread was created. The point was there are lot of people who think we should get rid of him, and they believe getting rid Pogba so we can use the money to get Sancho is no brainer idea because the guy hasn’t been performing enough to help United & he wanted out. In reality, he’s been one of our best player, being underwhelmed by average players around him & he wanted out because the club can’t win major trophies.

 

[SAFMUTD]

Feck me that Pogba stat, and being between top of the league.

 

[SpyLuke10]

Just shows the levels of Pogba. Hes missed 80% of the season injured and hes still up there for total stats in these categories.

 

[RedRonaldo]

That really shows how fecking hopeless our midfielders are (Lingard, Pereira).

And of course Pogba has always been one of the most creative/productive midfielder in the league.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Just shows the levels of Pogba. Hes missed 80% of the season injured and hes still up there for total stats in these categories.

Category, there’s only one category. And it’s a category for a pass which apparently entire teams only attempt once a match. It’s a completely useless stat.

Just to even further it, Martial made 3 throughballs (of his 4 or 5 all season depending on site) in one match. Pogba made 2 (of his total 5) in that same exact match. What match was it? When we lost to Watford 2-0. Fat lot of good they apparently did. And funnily enough, Watford didn’t attempt a single throughball all match.

Use an actual relevant stat like chances created or xA because throughballs is a completely useless stat.

 

[Rozay]

Category, there’s only one category. And it’s a category for a pass which apparently entire teams only attempt once a match. It’s a completely useless stat.

Just to even further it, Martial made 3 throughballs (of his 4 or 5 all season depending on site) in one match. Pogba made 2 (of his total 5) in that same exact match. What match was it? When we lost to Watford 2-0. Fat lot of good they apparently did. And funnily enough, Watford didn’t attempt a single throughball all match.

Use an actual relevant stat like chances created or xA because throughballs is a completely useless stat.

To be fair to Pogba, his two through balls against Watford led to clear one-vs-one opportunities for our forwards - one with Rashford’s first touch taking him too wide to shoot, and the other resulting in a Greenwood lob that landed on the roof of the net.

I get your more general point, however. But those are conventional ‘through passes’ that would draw praise for their creativity under any metric. I’m assuming another of his 5 came against Chelsea and resulted in a Rashford goal?

 

[RedDevilUnited369]

S/O to Daniel James!!!

Poor kid was thrown into the fire and still performed better than what he is given credit for.

 

[Rozay]

S/O to Daniel James!!!

Poor kid was thrown into the fire and still performed better than what he is given credit for.

I don’t agree with this sentiment tbh. I mean, this is still Manchester United, everyone takes a different route here, but because he came from the Championship doesn’t mean he can just come here and pick his nose. He’s done as well as was fair to expect I think, but we paid good money for him, he has to perform, and if he thinkS the standards are too unfair, he could have joined Leeds United instead as he planned to earlier.

If it isn’t reasonable for us to expect a player to perform, that player shouldn’t be on the pitch.

 

[ColvaleGoa]

I don’t agree with this sentiment tbh. I mean, this is still Manchester United, everyone takes a different route here, but because he came from the Championship doesn’t mean he can just come here and pick his nose. He’s done as well as was fair to expect I think, but we paid good money for him, he has to perform, and if he thinkS the standards are too unfair, he could have joined Leeds United instead as he planned to earlier.

If it isn’t reasonable for us to expect a player to perform, that player shouldn’t be on the pitch.

I think he meant the amount of criticism James has received. Some of it sounds like James was Obertan in disguise.

 

[Rozay]

I think he meant the amount of criticism James has received. Some of it sounds like James was Obertan in disguise.

And I was referring to the ‘poor kid thrown into the fire’ bit. He’s a fecking Manchester United player, not a competition winner. This isn’t Swansea or the Championship. There are expectations to be met, so criticism is natural if you fall below.

 

[RedDevilUnited369]

And I was referring to the ‘poor kid thrown into the fire’ bit. He’s a fecking Manchester United player, not a competition winner. This isn’t Swansea or the Championship. There are expectations to be met, so criticism is natural if you fall below.

James was never supposed to be anything more than a squad player. Due to injury and a lack of players a kid who was supposed to be given time to adjust and coached like, Greenwood, Chong etc he was kinda of thrown into the fire in my opinion.

Most assists is not underperforming for a kid who was utilised manly on the right when he is naturally better on the left.

 

[golden_blunder]

And I was referring to the ‘poor kid thrown into the fire’ bit. He’s a fecking Manchester United player, not a competition winner. This isn’t Swansea or the Championship. There are expectations to be met, so criticism is natural if you fall below.

Bit harsh for a kid who hadn’t played PL before and was coming into a new club, at a much higher level, on the back of his father dying. No one expected him to be in the first team so much, if you look at Oles early comments on him

 

[jem]

Judging from his post I don’t think he wants to imagine Martial at all!

It's bizarre - I still think Martial is a mouthwatering talent, and I think he was starting to put it together before the break in action.

 

[cyberman]

Is it me or does it show the unimportance of through balls? Henderson has half of KDB and a fraction of his talent.

 

[Rozay]

James was never supposed to be anything more than a squad player. Due to injury and a lack of players a kid who was supposed to be given time to adjust and coached like, Greenwood, Chong etc he was kinda of thrown into the fire in my opinion.

Most assists is not underperforming for a kid who was utilised manly on the right when he is naturally better on the left.

Squad players are expected to play well. Academy players are expected to play well. Any player on the pitch is expected to play well.

And I didn’t even say that James has NOT done well. I just had an issue of referring to him as ‘poor kid’ who has been asked to play football. He’s near on £20m player. I’m not saying he needs to be the best player in the team, but he should be giving a decent account of himself, which I have said that he has done. But the notion that his assists have been some sort of over-contribution or whatever is what I disagree with.

 

[RedDevilUnited369]

Squad players are expected to play well. Academy players are expected to play well. Any player on the pitch is expected to play well.

And I didn’t even say that James has NOT done well. I just had an issue of referring to him as ‘poor kid’ who has been asked to play football. He’s near on £20m player. I’m not saying he needs to be the best player in the team, but he should be giving a decent account of himself, which I have said that he has done. But the notion that his assists have been some sort of over-contribution or whatever is what I disagree with.

Never said it was an over contribution. I said he performed better than what he is credited for.

I find your stance on James somewhat harsh.

 

[Rozay]

Bit harsh for a kid who hadn’t played PL before and was coming into a new club, at a much higher level, on the back of his father dying. No one expected him to be in the first team so much, if you look at Oles early comments on him

I’m not trying to be harsh on him, I actually think he’s done well. I was only challenging the implication that he is not expected to play well or something. If he isn’t, then he wouldn’t be on the pitch. But he’s a part of this squad, and all of them, from Pogba to Brandon Williams, are supposed to contribute if they play. They are of varying levels of course, but there is a minimum level, which you should meet by virtue of being selected to take the field. If we can’t even expect anything from you at all, then surely you have no business on the pitch at that time. Perhaps when you are older and we feel you can give something, you should play.

But yea, I think James has been decent enough, all things considered, and expect him to get even better.

 

[hmchan]

Category, there’s only one category. And it’s a category for a pass which apparently entire teams only attempt once a match. It’s a completely useless stat.

Just to even further it, Martial made 3 throughballs (of his 4 or 5 all season depending on site) in one match. Pogba made 2 (of his total 5) in that same exact match. What match was it? When we lost to Watford 2-0. Fat lot of good they apparently did. And funnily enough, Watford didn’t attempt a single throughball all match.

Use an actual relevant stat like chances created or xA because throughballs is a completely useless stat.

Agree that we should not jump to conclusion just based on one category/parameter. But I don't think through ball stat is completely useless. Each stat has its own relevance, the most important thing is to interpret the stat appropriately together with the context of the game.

 

[Andersonson]

Is it me or does it show the unimportance of through balls? Henderson has half of KDB and a fraction of his talent.

They dont have the same role at all though. And they are both terrific footballers

 

[cyberman]

They dont have the same role at all though. And they are both terrific footballers

So who has the role of supplying Liverpools forwards? All 3 are pacey attackers who play on the shoulder and nobody else has provided a through ball for them?

 

[romufc]

So who has the role of supplying Liverpools forwards? All 3 are pacey attackers who play on the shoulder and nobody else has provided a through ball for them?

Liverpool play a different system. They look at their full backs for creativity when dominating possession. When the front 3 get going, it is a combination of press and set one of them free or long ball from the CB;s for one to chase down.

 

[flappyjay]

James was never supposed to be anything more than a squad player. Due to injury and a lack of players a kid who was supposed to be given time to adjust and coached like, Greenwood, Chong etc he was kinda of thrown into the fire in my opinion.

Most assists is not underperforming for a kid who was utilised manly on the right when he is naturally better on the left.

Yeah people overlook this about him. He started the season on the bench only when Mata, lingard, Pereira decided not to turn up did he become a starter.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Yeah people overlook this about him. He started the season on the bench only when Mata, lingard, Pereira decided not to turn up did he become a starter.

He started on the bench for one match, which we won 4-0 against one of the top teams in the league. He was an automatic starter every match after that. People haven’t really overlooked anything there. Mata decided not to turn up based on 4 minutes off the bench against Chelsea?