Players we need to ship out

Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Zlatattack, Sep 26, 2019.

  1. Sep 26, 2019
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    EireRed_GS New Member

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    I really wish to god the manager and coaches will suddenly come to realisation that Lingard is actually a shite option to have/ be stuck with, and ship him out in the next batch of outgoings.

    But in reality, i wouldnt allow anymore out until we start bringing new quality in the door. We are already down to the bare bones with how thin we are at the minute.
  2. Sep 26, 2019
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    Lingard
    Mata
    Rojo
    Bailly
    Matic

    I would even add Pogba to that list. But we need to buy replacements.
  3. Sep 26, 2019
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    Amerifan Full Member

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    My point is Pogba aside, most of the others on your list are already squad players. Clubs can rarely afford to buy squad players (unless you’re City) because what money they have goes to improving the first team. Existing squad players are pushed out by upgraded first team members. There’s never a need to replace squad players. It happens naturally over time.
  4. Sep 26, 2019
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    Zlatattack Full Member

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    In our case i think there is. The drop in quality is so high that we need to buy some (not all) squad players. You're right though. Maybe if we enough first team players, we'll have enough decent players to become squad players. Realistically our squad players have to be good enough to challenge for a first team place. No good having someone who'll never trouble the person ahead of them.
  5. Sep 26, 2019
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    Lingard will remain here for years to come as there have been talks offering a new improved contract. Mata will probably finish his 2 year contract with us and become an ambassador. Rojo will be sold in Jan or the summer. Bailly also has had many chances to prove himself and I think he will drop behind Tuanzebe in the pecking order. Matic will leave on a free with takers like Inter and Juventus in for him. Pogba is a messy one though. If we lose him, we are no better than an Everton side as he's the only genuine world class star we have at the moment. If we got some really go players playing beside him, I think he will up his game. Pogba can't inspire but he definitely needs a strong character to be inspired by. Pogba would become a Balon Do'or winning player with the likes of Keane beside him.
  6. Sep 26, 2019
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    Mata
    Periera
    Lingard
    Rojo
    Young

    Matic is poor but probably can be a squad player
  7. Sep 26, 2019
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    buckooo1978 Full Member

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    Why would we want to sell Pogba first. He's far from perfect and might be expendable in a Fergie team but he's literally our only midfielder that might have gotten into a Fergie side.
    The games he's been injured we've looked as dangerous as a toddler with a water gun and he'd be the last midfielder I'd sell - there's no-one in the current team to put up his numbers in goals and assists and who would you replace him with? Players like Erickson aren't gonna come to United if there are better options

    the rest really are expendable - possibly hang onto Pereira as a squad player but if Pogba leaves we could use 3 new midfield players which is highly unlikely
  8. Sep 26, 2019
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    Amerifan Full Member

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    I agree with you that our squad is lacking in quality. This is what really concerns me looking forward. Right now we arguably have two to four world class players. I’m hoping one of the youngsters reaches that level, but that is a long shot. Which means if we really want to mount a title run we need to buy a lot of starters. At today’s inflated transfer fees even we can’t afford more than two or three world class players a window. So three or four windows just to get a title and CL competitive starting XI. Then replacements for guys who leave, get injured, etc. Just feels like we are going be seeing a lot more of the names on your list.
  9. Sep 26, 2019
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    meninred New Member

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    a 3 year step by step approach might be the best but i dont know if fans can be patient
    year 1 sort defense = get rid of young and rojo
    year 2 sort midfield = we need to sign 2 players atleast and keep pogba ( get rid of mata and matic)
    year 2 sort attack = sign a proven goal scorer if the current players fail.
    year 3 fine tuning (as for wing i would keep lingaard as backup.)
  10. Sep 26, 2019
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    USREDEVIL New Member

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    I think everyone's in agreement as to who is surplus to requirements, save Pogba, who, I maintain will be amazing once we get a bit more quality in the side.
  11. Sep 26, 2019
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    Sir Scott McToMinay New Member

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    Young
    Jones
    Rojo
    Bailly
    Dalot
    Matic
    Fred
    Pereira
    Lingard
    Mata

    I don’t see enough votes from Fred, 52m for someone who isn’t any better than Gibson or Cleverley.
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  12. Sep 26, 2019
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    Yeah, I think id agree with that priority list, although i'd push Jones much higher up the list. In an ideal world we'd keep Pogba but no issue if he wants out.
  13. Sep 26, 2019
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    WR10 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    The thing is, Ole has really stepped his foot on the gas with the clear out. Unfortunately for him he has dumped out faster than he can bring in so we’re stuck in this limbo period where we have to play Perreira - a playground footballer - and Jesse - a pretend footballer - in our starting 11. We also couldn’t get in a CDM that can truly free Pogba from a mid 2 and give Matic the retirement he needs.

    Martial, Marcus and Greenwood are wonderful to have upfront. If they stay fit. They don’t.

    We need a left back that actually has a heart beat when they are in the final 1/3.

    I’m pretty sure these 4 positions/roles have been very clearly expressed by Ole and co. If we can think it - they definitely have.

    On to you Ed
  14. Sep 26, 2019
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    hobbers Full Member

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    In order,

    1. Matic - worst player in the squad
    2. Mata - useless on the pitch, move him into coaching/ambassadorial stuff early
    3. Lingard - if Everton paid that for Iwobi, surely we can get at least £20m for this clown?
    4. Young - should have been ditched 3 or 4 years ago
    5. Rojo, Jones, Bailly - the sicknote trio and world's least reliable centrebacks
    6. Fred - poor guy
    7. Pereira - destined for mediocrity
  15. Sep 26, 2019
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    Jezpeza Full Member

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    Its not the players its Ole, thats top 4 easy. He just has to go.
  16. Sep 26, 2019
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    sparx99 Full Member

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    I think Pogba should be repacked by two players. A tackling midfielder and a an attacking midfielder.
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    Sir Scott McToMinay New Member

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    He has to go but even SAF would seriously struggle to finish top 4 with this eleven.
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    Rozay Master of Hindsight

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    Just reads like a thinly disguised anti-Pogba post tbh. You’ve written a few paragraphs about the state of our squad and ended with a conclusion that of all the rubbish we have, Pogba is the biggest priority we need to get rid of. Right, course he is.
  19. Sep 26, 2019
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    Jericholyte2 Full Member

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    Young and Matic end their contracts this summer so I imagine they’ll both leave.

    Rojo has already said he want to play or he’ll leave so I imagine he’ll go in Jan or Summer

    Pereira, Mata - I could see us shipping them out in the summer too.
  20. Sep 26, 2019
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    Jezpeza Full Member

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    Haha. I think some sort of management think tank of clough, fergie and pep would struggle to get that out of he bottom 6. Its appalling, so little strength in depth or pressure on places
  21. Sep 26, 2019
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    Zlatattack Full Member

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    Like all of you, I'd like to keep Pogba but I think he wants out. If you read my previous posts I've defended Pogba and wanted to keep him, but his continued inconsistency and downing tools, I think we ought to sell whilst we can.

    We won't have any players of his quality in our team in the near future I fear.
  22. Sep 26, 2019
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    Gk: Grant
    RB: Fosu Mensah
    CB: Jones and Bailly
    LB: Young and Rojo

    DM: Matic
    MC: Andreas, Fred
    RW: Jesse and Mata

    This season
    - Jones, Young, Rojo, Matic, Mata

    Next season the rest
  23. Sep 26, 2019
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    Forgot he existed. Another overhyped nothing player. Was supposed to be the next big thing at RB, CB and even DM according to the caf.
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    devilish Juventus fan who used to support United

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    we do love to hype our kids don't we? Greenwood does seem to be special though. Hopefully he'll start scoring a goal at least every 3 chances rather then 10
  25. Sep 26, 2019
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    MrBrightside1989 New Member

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    At the start of the season I was all for pereira getting games and thought he could do a good job, I was wrong, I have No faith in him now at all, he offers very little and seems off the pace. He certainly should not be starting on his current form.
    I just hope he can prove me wrong...?
  26. Sep 26, 2019
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    Random Task Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Keep Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Shaw, Mctominay and the three new signings.

    The rest can leave.
  27. Sep 26, 2019
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    Josh 76 Full Member

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    Shipping out is not the problem. We have done that....and we are even worse off. Get them in.....then think about shipping them out!
  28. Sep 26, 2019
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    paraguayo New Member

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    People are so ignorant :lol:

    They think a roster is only composed of world class players. Hey, people.

    You need a Pereira contract, or a Baily contract to be able to fit world class players. United doesn't have nearly enough money to have 15, 16 world class salaries in the squad.
  29. Sep 26, 2019
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    fps Full Member

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    You move out 1 2 3 5 6 and there isn't even a first-team squad any more.
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    De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Dalot, Lindelof, Maguire, Tuanzebe, Shaw, Pogba, James, Gomes, Martial, Rashford, Greenwood.

    Outside of that lot I’d happily see the back of every other player in the squad.
  31. Sep 26, 2019
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    Icupmyfartss New Member

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    Keep de Gea, WB, James, Greenwood, Martial, Rashford and Maguire.
  32. Sep 26, 2019
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    Young
    Jones
    Rojo
    Matic
    Mata
    Pereira
    Fred
    Pogba
    Bailly
    Sanchez

    1 in in January, 5 next summer

    Squad next summer

    De gea, romero

    Wan Bissaka, maguire, lindelof, tuanzebe, Smalling as sub, Shaw, Williams, Dalot

    Mctominay, New CM, New CM, New experienced CM back up, Gomes, Garner, Lingard

    Sancho, James, Greenwood, Martial, Rashford, experienced striker.

    23 players.

    Whatever about the diabolical football solskjaer at least seemed to show some sort of strategy with transfer plans.
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    Rozay Master of Hindsight

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    Well the club have begun talks over a new deal for him. Your position should surely be that you hope he signs it and stays, as opposed to refuses to sign and leaves.

    The extent of his ‘desire to leave’ is largely unknown on this forum. If he stays and signs then that is that.
  34. Sep 27, 2019
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    1 Matic (He's a passenger when playing)
    2 Mata (Deadwood, no leg, no end product)
    3 Pereira (Not good enough)
    4-5 Chuckle Brothers (Time to move on)
    6 Sanchez (Doesn't deliver, wages is too big)
    7 Lingard (Time is up, not showing any improvement)
    8 Bailly (Injury Injury Injury. But I'll change my mind if he does well playing next to Maguire)
    9 Mensah (If he does well when he comes back from injury then keep him)

    10 Chong I will loan him out, if a club wants to buy him then welcome. (Yes Big surprise that I write the teenager off, but I don't see him to be good enough).

    The ones that I don't mind to keep for one more season for backup: Young & Rojo.
  35. Sep 27, 2019
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    jackal&hyde Full Member

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    True that.

    I'd have DDG, Magure, Bissaka, Pogba, Martial, Rashford, James and McTominay as players that i think can be part of a winning squad. Then there are some question marks like Shaw, Lindelof that i would keep. The rest of them (not including the youth) are to be sold IMO.
  36. Sep 27, 2019
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    Denis79 Full Member

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    Great lads, strong mentally, working hard.
  37. Sep 29, 2019
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    Walters_19_MuFc Full Member

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    Young
    Bailly
    Rojo
    Matic
    Fred
    Pereira
    Mata

    We need:

    Two defensive midfielders (playmaker and ball winner)
    An attacking midfielder
    Two wingers
    Centre Back
  38. Sep 29, 2019
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    The problem with getting rid of that many players is that we wouldn't have any squad players left :lol:
  39. Sep 29, 2019
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    Walters_19_MuFc Full Member

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    Martial
    Rashford Attacking Mid Right Mid
    Defensive Mid Pogba
    Shaw Maguire Tuanzebe Wan-Bissaka
    De Gea​

    Romero Lindelof Dalot McTominay Lingard James Striker​


    Garner, Gomes, Chong, Greenwood should all play bit part roles.
  40. Sep 29, 2019
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    AlwaysRed66 Full Member

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    You want to get rid of those players, so the likes of Chong can play? Hilarious. He is useless.