True, but that just shows where we are. How do you not sell Rojo and Mata at the first opportunity but instead renew their contracts? Like, how does that happen?I felt United let too many players go during the recent transfer window without replacing them. Never mind selling more players.
I'll take heart over talent any day of the week. Even Mark fecking Noble has been able to outplay Pogba...Jumping the gun. I think any talk of deadwood should now come with a suggestion for viable replacements. Ship out Pogba? And replace him with who? He's leaving anyway but no one in his talent bracket will come on our current trajectory. Not without a ridiculous payrise anyway
Right, getting rid of our best players and replacing them with more potentials...I don't think that's a good move from us if we did that. Probably setting us back for more years before we could challenge for the title.For me Sanchez and Smalling are already gone so wouldn't include them.
Players we need to get rid off.
4. De Gea if we get a bid around 60-70 m
Players in during Winter:
1. Erling Braut Håland ( sign him up for whatever it takes and even if the transfer concludes in summer)
3. Try getting either Neves or Fernandes during winter
Players in Summer:
2. Erling Braut Håland
3. Martin Ødegaard (can get him in cash plus deal for Pogba)
4. John McGinn or Sean Longstaff
5. Neves or Fernandes
6. Left back
No point keeping even the greatest players if their heart is not with the team. which seems clearly the case with Pogba, and for me De Gea is on a decline, mainly out of frustration, can't see him improving with United.Right, getting rid of our best players and replacing them with more potentials...I don't think that's a good move from us if we did that. Probably setting us back for more years before we could challenge for the title.
Add Romero (solid deputy) for keeper. I guess you included Tuanzebe as "youth". That makes 12 to keep. Easier to work it out this way. Good enough to play = keep. Not quite good enough to play = sell.True that.
I'd have DDG, Magure, Bissaka, Pogba, Martial, Rashford, James and McTominay as players that i think can be part of a winning squad. Then there are some question marks like Shaw, Lindelof that i would keep. The rest of them (not including the youth) are to be sold IMO.
I agree. The squad is terrible in depth and that't why it's going to take a couple of transfer windows to even get a good first 11 let alone a full squad.Add Romero (solid deputy) for keeper. I guess you included Tuanzebe as "youth". That makes 12 to keep. Easier to work it out this way. Good enough to play = keep. Not quite good enough to play = sell.
We can't lose 14 all at once because they need replacing. We ain't replacing them by targeting £80m+ players like Maguire and Sancho. That will take years/decades. We need to look for value in the market. Best replace them in the order they're paid (approximately as below). Not sure about Chong yet. He needs a season out on loan. He has to get the same chance as other youth prospects.Bailly, Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Young, TFM, Mata, Lingard, Pereira, Fred, Matic, Sanchez, Chong, Pogba
Replacing them is another story.
I think that given the current situation and that we are unlikely to spend huge sums in the market, going for expensive players (+£60m) players would make it hard/impossible to make the changes needed. E.g. this summer: spending £80m on Maguire or £50m on AWB when we needed two midfielders the most.Of course - as soon as I say "ignore £80m players, go for value in the market" then fans get livid at me. Telling me "what do you care. It's Glazers money". If a DoF listened to that nonsense he's last days here.
While I admire the attempt to find a different solution to player availability in January, our medical team can't keep the players we have fit walking from the gym to the showers at Carrington. How do you think they're going to manage a handful of Brazilians, coming off the end of a long season and arriving into the midst of the British winter?I count 6 players who must leave urgently due to weak performances. Ideally in January. If they cannot be sold, we should loan them out. Sell in the order given (Lingard first):
Jesse Lingard : pointless player, replace him with a proper right-winger. A large number of right-wingers have contracts expiring next June. Or there are several playing in Brazil and Argentina who will be available cheaply after December.
Marcos Rojo : rash and injury prone. Replace him with a new centre-back. Many centre backs have contracts expiring next June, or we could get a South American (their season ends this December).
Juan Mata : over-the-hill. Replace him with Giorgian de Arrascaeta - 25 year old who plays for Flamengo + has an Italian passport.
Andreas Pereira : He's had enought chances. Skillful player who won't make it here. Replace with a midfielder coming to the end of their contract, or another South American.
Nemanja Matic : Slow + Static. Replace with with Bruno Guimarães, 21 year old DMC who plays for Paranaense, has a Spanish passport.
Fred : Not worth a tenth the price paid. Replace him with Gabriel Girotto Franco (age: 27). A DMC, who plays for Corinthians and has an Italian passport.
Ashley Young - Keep till contract ends in summer.
Phil Jones - Keep till summer.
No of course not, but doing everything in two windows is a wildly unrealistic prospect, what's important is making the right signings like we did this summer rather than a rush job. The rebuild is going to take 3 years minimum.If it were up to me, first out the door would be Lingard and Matic and Jones. Followed swiftly by Bailly, Young, Mata, Pereira, Fred and Chong, and the permanent transfers of Smalling and Sanchez. That shows the state this club is in right now. U less we get the likes of the Saudis in, I can't see us getting rid of all the deadwood and replacing them with better players in the next two windows.
I'd also send Gardner and Gomes out on loan in January to a carefully selected club where they will play most weeks at as high a level as possible and in a set up similar to what we hope to play when Ole finally figures it out himself.
Beautifully put. It would be the footie equivalent of the first act of Cool Runnings.While I admire the attempt to find a different solution to player availability in January, our medical team can't keep the players we have fit walking from the gym to the showers at Carrington. How do you think they're going to manage a handful of Brazilians, coming off the end of a long season and arriving into the midst of the British winter?
It'll cost more than our pride. The actual price just wouldn't make it worth bringing him back.When a team underperforms... finger pointing ensues and we end up getting rid of lots of good players.
Zaha sold for £9m (we need to swallow our pride and get him back).
Blind for £13... he was better than Lindeleof
Smalling better than lindeloef
Depay could do a job
Fellaini was a good squad player.
Now this unreasonable hate on Lingard a good squad player who would have subbed in against Liverpool.... might have earned us the 3 points.