In what world does Leipzig have had on paper better teams than Lyon or Monaco in the last decade? Based on what some of you say, you would think that Ligue 1 is bereft of talent.
And PSG have quality players but it doesn't mean that they have the best team in Europe and should automatically win the CL, they never had the best team in Europe. And if you want to mention Neymar he has missed a lot of KO stages due to injuries. And Tuchel reached the final didn't he, how does that fit with your argument about their results being due to Ligue 1?
In the real world they've had a better team than Lyon and Monaco (2nd and 3rd most valuable squads in France by a clear margin) on paper since 2017.
They have or have had quality players like Werner, Keita, Upamecano, Sabitzer, Olmo, Silva, Konate, Forsberg, Angelino, Nkunku, Haidara, Mukiele, Laimer, Szobozlai and so on (all 20M + players), had stronger appeal for talents and ran deeper in European comps than Lyon and Monaco. That shouldn't even be up for discussion.
Leipzig (squad value: 448M £) in Europe:
17/18 CL: 3rd in group with 7 points (in group with Monaco (last place with 2 points)), Reached Quarter final in the EL.
18/19 EL: 3rd in group.
19/20 CL: 1st in group with 11 points (in group with Lyon (2nd with 8 points)) Reached the semi.
20/21 CL: 2nd in group with 12 points. Lost to Liverpool in the round of 16
21/22 CL: 3rd in group with City and PSG with 4 points so far.
Monaco (Squad value: 331M £) in Europe since 17/18:
17/18 CL: 4th in group with 2 points.
18/19 CL: 4th in group with 1 point
19/20 Didn't qualify for European football
20/21 Didn't qualify for European football
21/22 CL-qualification: Knocked out by Shaktar before group stage. EL: Will probably win their group.
Lyon (Squad value: 302M £) in Europe since 17/18:
17/18 EL: 2nd in group with 11 points, knocked out in round of 16 by CSKA Moscow.
18/19 CL: 2nd in group with 8 points, reached round of 16 (1-5 vs Barca)
19/20 CL: 2nd in group with 8 points (behind Leipzig), reached semi (like Leipzig)
20/21 Didn't qualify for European football
21/22 EL: Is winning their group
French teams in Europe since 2017:
17/18
EL: 1 x Final, 1 x round of 16, 1 x round of 32
CL: 1 x round of 16, 1 x group stage (last)
18/19
EL: 1 x round of 16, 2 x group stage
CL: 2 x round of 16, 1 x group stage (last)
19/20
EL: 2 x group stage
CL: 1 x final, 1 x semi, 1 x group stage (last)
20/21
EL: 1 x round of 32, 1 x group stage
CL: 1 x semi, 2 x group stage (both last in group)
Total:
EL: 1 x final, 2 x round of 16, 2 x round of 32 and 4 group stage (56 % out of group, 5 teams in KO stages since 2017)
CL: 1 x final, 2 x semi, 3 x round of 16 and 5 x 4th places in group stage. (55% out of group) 6 teams (only 2 times other teams than PSG) in the KO stages since 2017 and 5 teams (45%) have ended up last in their group in the group stage.
German teams in Europe since 2017:
17/18
EL: 1 x round of 8, 1 x round of 16, 3 x group stage
CL: 1 x semi, 2 x group stage (both 3rd)
18/19
EL: 1 x semi, 1 x round of 32, 1 x group stage
CL: 3 x round of 16, 1 x group stage (last)
19/20
EL: 1 x round of 8, 2 x round of 16, 1 x group stage
CL: 1 x winner, 1 x semi, 1 x round of 16, 1 x group stage (3rd)
20/21
EL: 2 x round of 32
CL: 2 x round of 8, 2 x round of 16
Total:
EL: 1 x semi, 2 x round of 8, 3 x round of 16, 3 x round of 32 and 5 x group stage (3 teams qualified through 3rd in group of CL group stage, so 55% out of group). 9 teams in KO stages since 2017)
CL: 1 x winner, 2 x semi, 2 x round of 8, 6 x round of 16 and 4 x group stage (1 x 4th and 3 x 3rd). 73% out of group. 11 (other teams than Bayern 7 times) teams in KO stages since 2017 and only 1 team knocked out of europe from group stage since 2017 in the CL.
Total value of squads in Ligue 1 without PSG: 2460M £ (19 teams - 6 of them worth more than 100M £)
Total value of squads in Bundesliga without Bayern: 3034M £ (17 teams - 10 of them worth more than 100M £)
The Bundesliga is a much tougher leage by quite a big margin and the quality of the teams behind Bayern are much stronger than in Ligue 1.