Yilmaz/David >>>>>> Mbappe/NeymarDoing the Panini Euro 2020 album last night, I got asked where Yilmaz currently plays. Great story.
What are the odds on Poch being the next Spurs manager?
Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch
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He wasn't sacked for results but due to Tuchel relationship with the hierarchy. It was a long standing issue.
PSG are a worst team now and have worse players than any other years, they are not underperforming but doing exactly what you would expect from a team that has the likes of Kurzawa, Gueye, Florenzi, Paredes and a past it Di Maria as starters, in order to have a new manager bounce you need to have something to bounce. Chelsea were underperforming and Tuchel made them perform at their level.
He has been there over half the season. They were a point behind Lille at that stage and might well end up a point behind them.
United and City were bottom half and couldn’t buy a win until mid November. Bayern also started poorly. Teams that were busy playing in Europe while preparing for the new season all had a rough start to the season. Those teams gradually picked themselves up though while PSG, despite a managerial change, are almost mirroring their first half to the season.
Where has the new manager bounce been? I watch Tuchel and he has solidified Chelsea. I watch PSG and I don’t see any improvement at all. They look like conceding every time the opponent puts pressure on them. I don't see what their tactics are other than pass it to Di Maria, Neymar and Mbappe and hope they manage to outscore the opponent.
No matter how craps PSG squad are, Lille dont exactly have anything superior do they?
Football isn't played with two players or by lining up bags of cash on the field. PSG aren't a particularly good team and the supporting cast for Mbappé and Neymar isn't a good fit.
PSG aren't that far off from the Spurs team he managed. Elite forwards, a workman like midfield and a decent defence.
Give over. They might not be as good as previous years, but they still have Neymar, Mbappe, Icardi, Di Maria, Veratti, Draxler etc. It's COMFORTABLY the best squad in the league.
Lille has better synergy and a team made of players that actually fit together and add to eachothers. Currently PSG are like the worst Real Madrid in the 2000s when Perez seemed to not care about having decent defenders and midfielders aka the Gravesen experience.
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Icardi is absolutely terrible though
Di Maria, Draxler and Icardi aren't particularly good and have mainly been subpar. Verratti has missed a lot of games due to injuries and Covid, Neymar has played 15 league games. Mbappé is the only one that has played a significant amount of games and been good. PSG are comfortably the best team at full strength which is why they are only potentially one point behind Lille but they don't have quality depth and don't have a balanced squad, they rely on the talent of a couple of players.
Ah now..
You can't actually believe that?
You could have Neymar, Mbappe, Navas, Marquinhos, Di Maria and Verratti and fill the rest of your squad with fecking Luton players and it would still be better than what Lille have by miles.
@JPRouve you're going a bit Comical Ali here. Look at the UEFA coefficients to see how poor the other French sides are at the moment. It's the 8th ranked league in Europe this season behind Scotland!!!
Tuchel wasn't sacked primarily because of results, but because of his bad relation with the DoF and behind the scenes struggles. So the argument is moot.
The squad hasn't suddenly become awful since being 13 points clear with a game in hand before the season ended due to Covid. They're still better than everyone else in the league, by a significant margin, even if they have half a dozen players out injured. Who are the superstars in Lille's team? It's Poch's job to get them playing as a more cohesive unit. What has he actually done since arriving? Picked 11 names twice a week? Come on.
So, Lille are a better fit after selling 3 of their best players from last season?
Come on mate, Lille replace them with an old Turkish striker, unproven Canadian wonder kid, and an average Dutch CB who failed at Ajax. Neymar-Mbappe have been playing together for years, and their supporting cast isn't that bad.
Lille are just slightly better than last season, they are far from their best season with Eden Hazard. But PSG are having the worst season in the last decade if they failed to win the league now.
Quick reminder that PSG played their first league game of this season one week after the CL final of last season.
Honestly it's a miracle they're even walking out onto the pitch every week.
No idea why it's so hard to understand that a well-prepared, cohesive, fit, confident, solid team like Lille could be capitalizing on that.
Honestly it's a miracle they're even walking out onto the pitch every week.
No idea why it's so hard to understand that a well-prepared, cohesive, fit, confident, solid team like Lille could be capitalizing on that.
But PSG beat most of these teams, they currently have the most wins in the league so your point is difficult to follow. Also your point demonstrates that you don't follow the league because it makes no sense, Lyon and Monaco have both improved drastically from last season and neither played European competitions, the teams that played European competitions have almost all been subpar in the league at the exception of Lille who have still improved in Ligue 1 compared to last season.
So the situation is simply that PSG are a worse team this season for various reasons injuries, lack of depth and one of their former best performers looking like he is 33 years. While three other teams improved domestically and closed the gap with PSG, PSG are still better at full strength but they haven't been at full strength.
Regardless of background issues or struggles the sport is a result business and the main desire of the PSG owner is to win Champions league trophy. Going out tamely to City won't have gone down well and not landing the low hanging fruit that is the French league for PSG will likely terminate that 18 month contract early.
I'm sure the PSG board would rather win the league and have progressed in CL, yes.
But I doubt they are as ignorant towards any circumstances or conditions surrounding and influencing the performances and results as you portray them to be. Or is it a self-portrait?
Lille are significantly better than last season domestically, this season they have an average of 2.19 ppg while last season they had 1.7 ppg. Monaco and Lyon went from 1.48 ppg to 2 ppg. The difference was made against other teams than PSG but they also all took points from PSG.
Reminicense of Tuchel's PSG? Poch took over in the winter break when all the players are well-rested.
Lille aren't a solid team and well prepared either, this should be their rebuilding season after losing Oshimen, Gabriel, and Peppe.
They didn't lose Pépé this year, Osimhen played one season for them and he didn't do better than his replacement David. Gabriel wasn't an irreplaceable defender. It wasn't a rebuilding season for Lille but a very normal season when it comes to squad building.
Ligue 1 was abandoned though due to covid. They only had to play 3 games in the space of 11 days prior to the new season starting, hardly season destroying is it?
The season was abandoned with 11 games to go (they were sitting 12 points clear with a game in hand). The schedule after lockdown was lifted has been far more challenging for other teams, like United and City for example, who has to do it in a considerably harder league. Most top sides had a rough start but were able to get back on track. It's really no excuse.
Very good point.
Sure, if it hadn't already been completely debunked in the two posts before yours.
It's not, half the league games are near enough a CL team versus a team that aren't even fully professional. They could rest all their best players and still win 10 games a season with ease.
It's a miracle
Almost 3-4 months break. 2 cup games on 24th and 31st July. 11 days gaps for CL games where they played 3 games in 11 games. Then 2 weeks break for the season start but it's a miracle they played this season.
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They can barely walkIt's a miracle
Almost 3-4 months break. 2 cup games on 24th and 31st July. 11 gaps for CL games where they played 3 games in 11 games. Then 2 weeks break for the season start but it's a miracle they played this season.
Poor little darlings can't cope with 3 games after their longest break in their football careers (minus injuries). I'd have thought playing 3 competitive games prior to the season opening would actually help them get their match sharpness back quicker. PSG have no excuse this season, they have so much financial muscle over their rivals in Ligue 1 that they should win it comfortably. Cup competitions are a bit more of a lottery, but league should be simple enough.It's a miracle
Almost 3-4 months break. 2 cup games on 24th and 31st July. 11 gaps for CL games where they played 3 games in 11 games. Then 2 weeks break for the season start but it's a miracle they played this season.
Lille of all teams beating them to it would be pretty special. Even Celtic managed to beat them for fecks sake. Celtic!!!
I love Solskjaer, so I have to lecture French people about how their league really works, so I can shit on Poch.
Yeah, all these excuses are silly considering their league was cancelled and they barely played any games. It's not more than preseason games that clubs play before start of any season.
Too much sandYou see this dynamic in every thread now. City's thread, this one, the Leicester thread... It's so insecure
Sure mate, everything's just wacky narratives and convoluted point scoring systems against the enemy of my enemy's enemy.
Nothing at all to do with someone claiming that being behind Lille is "expected" with PSG's current squad
Saying PSG should be winning the league means shitting on Poch and (somehow) defending Ole, fecking hell
And randomly bring City into this so that they can worship their messiah in one more thread.
And randomly bring City into this so that they can worship their messiah in one more thread.
Well said the Manchester United fan in Germany.
Looking at the arguments people come up with it's hard to arrive at a different conclusion.Sure mate, everything's just wacky narratives and convoluted point scoring systems against the enemy of my enemy's enemy.
Nothing at all to do with someone claiming that being behind Lille is "expected" with PSG's current squad
Like bringing up a relatively competitive semi final loss against City after beating both Barca and Bayern to get there. Or desperately trying to ignore the fact that Lille are en route to finish the season with a points tally in the mid 80s.
People don't realize that it doesn't help when you have 3-4 month off, without even basic training being allowed, to head start into a super fixture congested season with a close CL final loss to begin with and a lot of injuries, covid-cases and red-cards to deal with too. There is a reason all the top-teams in basically every league struggled more or less halfway into the season. I think that during the last 5-6 matches of Tuchel there was always at minimum one serious injury per game. Not following them any more but I think Poch had a bit more luck regarding that.
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