Pogba Future

Would you accept Dybala and Sandro for Pogba?


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tony54

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Best advice for MU is to tell Pogba to sling his hook. He is the same to MU as red Robby was to the death of British Leyland. Well, at least him and his brothers and the glaziers and woody.
 

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Is it possible to sell him for more than PSG paid Barcelona for Neymar ? I'd totally sell if we got that world record money and used it to sign five or six new players.

He should not be sold for any less than the money the club paid Juventus.

Hope he stays because he still has incredible potential but it's impossible to not get the feeling that his mind is somewhere else.
 

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Pogba is being used a a scapegoat. This is media driven bigotry (think Raheem Sterling's situation). We loose and Pogba's picture is on the back pages not the DDG for all his mistakes, not Rashford for all his misses, not Young for giving the ball away, not calamity Phil Jones and not fat Luke Shaw. Reasons DDG white, Rashord and Young are British born so can be considers "one of us", Jones and Shaw are English and white. Who out of them has performed better than Pogba for the last 2 seasons? But Pogba get the flak 'cos he plays for France and is of African decent. It's sad to see how shortsighted us so called Man Utd fans are. If Pogba wasn't here this season we'd have finished 10th. Disguised racism and bigotry from the media is what I call it and its a shame a lot of our fans have fallen for it. You don't have to use blatantly offensive words to be a bigot.
I don't remember Drogba, a black African francophone player getting the "flak", and you know why? Because he gave his all and is a club legend. If you don't have any good arguments please refrain from this ridiculous race card virtue signaling bs.
 

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Is it possible to sell him for more than PSG paid Barcelona for Neymar ? I'd totally sell if we got that world record money and used it to sign five or six new players.

He should not be sold for any less than the money the club paid Juventus.

Hope he stays because he still has incredible potential but it's impossible to not get the feeling that his mind is somewhere else.
Only if we opened him up like a sardine, and poured liquid gold through every pore of his body.

He is nowhere near that money. I'm surprised the likes of Madrid even want him.
 

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'It's lazy compared to other midfielders' - you're talking like the differences are huge, difference between him and Matic for example is less than a KM. I'm praying that you're a picture of fitness to be sitting here calling people lazy :lol:
That's twice now that you made a comparison of Pogba's athletic efforts to that of caf posters. You can't get more desperate than that.
 

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From 6:08, I agree with everything Rosenior says (ignore the clickbait headline).

https://youtu. be/CJhnHbVxuzs

(Can't add a link apparently, delete the space between youtu. be).

Pogba's a great player, but not the player we need right now.

We need to get back to being a team. Some players make the team play well but go relatively unnoticed (the fabled Makelele role from days gone by); others look like they're playing well but hinder the rest of the team (Stevie Me for years at Anfield).

Pogba is the cherry on the cake while we're still beating the eggs. Hopefully we'll mix in some flour this summer.
I disagree to be honest. What we need is to replace the players causing the issues. In the midfield it is mainly Matic, we also need to improve the defence.

We actually do require a creative force in our midfield and thats why we do need Pogba. We should also add to him in terms of creativity from midfield so we are not so reliant on him. A RW and a Herrera replacement will help.

The problem isnt Pogba not saying he has been great but he isnt the issue and would be a mistake to sell. Creativity as a midfield isnt a luxury it is absolutely essential especially if we want to be an attacking side.
 

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Black players have unrealistic expectations to perform all the time otherwise they're labelled as shit or solely defined by their biggest weaknesses and by their off field activity. Its been going on for years, Andy Cole got it too and Paul Parker as well even further back. White players are not treated the same, no fecking way. Latin players are also always expected to be good technical players. Hear the name Emilio Lopez and you're thinking it already without watching him play.

Every black player linked to this club will raise questions about technical ability, intelligence and attitude, laziness, etc. Positive stereotypes are usually physicality, athleticism, strength, speed etc. You clearly don't see the patterns or recognize the stereotypes.
Players like Matic, on the other hand, will steal a living in MUFC without any criticism whatsoev... oh wait

Btw Emilio Lopez does not evoke images of a good technichal player for me. Maybe you're just projecting your own racial stereotype vision unto other people. You should talk to someone about that.
 

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Players like Matic, on the other hand, will steal a living in MUFC without any criticism whatsoev... oh wait
Matic is hardly criticised in the mainstream media. He probably been one of our worst players this season and the main problem in the midfield yet you don’t hear much about him.

Not saying it is anything to do with racism by the way.
 

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Only if we opened him up like a sardine, and poured liquid gold through every pore of his body.

He is nowhere near that money. I'm surprised the likes of Madrid even want him.
That's why I think he should be sold. We're lucky that RM wants him and we could get a juicy transfer fee. A couple of half arsed seasons later he might be worth 40m or so.
 

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Only if we opened him up like a sardine, and poured liquid gold through every pore of his body.

He is nowhere near that money. I'm surprised the likes of Madrid even want him.
It would probably be a better buy than what Beckham was for them for example, as he has the same marketing appeal and is entering his physical prime.

My guess is they think Pogba and Hazard together would solve their issues.
 

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Players like Matic, on the other hand, will steal a living in MUFC without any criticism whatsoev... oh wait

Btw Emilio Lopez does not evoke images of a good technichal player for me. Maybe you're just projecting your own racial stereotype vision unto other people. You should talk to someone about that.
Enjoy living in whatever bubble you live in. Ignorance is bliss
 

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I don't remember Drogba, a black African francophone player getting the "flak", and you know why? Because he gave his all and is a club legend. If you don't have any good arguments please refrain from this ridiculous race card virtue signaling bs.
Drogba didn't get any flak because Chelsea were winning. According to many of our fans our player of the year is a left back who contributed to our worst defensive showing for years? In the last 2 years Pogba has scored a bucket load and created a bucket load of goals. When we are left to rely on Matic and McTominay for creativity many here will wish they could take back their words.
 

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Drogba didn't get any flak because Chelsea were winning. According to many of our fans our player of the year is a left back who contributed to our worst defensive showing for years? In the last 2 years Pogba has scored a bucket load and created a bucket load of goals. When we are left to rely on Matic and McTominay for creativity many here will wish they could take back their words.
Great, shame he doesn't bother for half (or more) of the season. Just think what he could have been if he was arsed.
 

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I don't remember Drogba, a black African francophone player getting the "flak", and you know why? Because he gave his all and is a club legend. If you don't have any good arguments please refrain from this ridiculous race card virtue signaling bs.
That's an awful example, Drogba was heavily criticised for his theatrics early in his career at Chelsea, while the media turned a blind-eye to the diving of player like Gerrard, Rooney, Joe Cole etc.
 

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From 6:08, I agree with everything Rosenior says (ignore the clickbait headline).

https://youtu. be/CJhnHbVxuzs

(Can't add a link apparently, delete the space between youtu. be).

Pogba's a great player, but not the player we need right now.

We need to get back to being a team. Some players make the team play well but go relatively unnoticed (the fabled Makelele role from days gone by); others look like they're playing well but hinder the rest of the team (Stevie Me for years at Anfield).

Pogba is the cherry on the cake while we're still beating the eggs. Hopefully we'll mix in some flour this summer.
I completely agree with this point. We need more players like Herrera right now to build a good team and then we can get players like Pogba. He is a hindrance and should be sold.
 

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That's an awful example, Drogba was heavily criticised for his theatrics early in his career at Chelsea, while the media turned a blind-eye to the diving of player like Gerrard, Rooney, Joe Cole etc.
I wouldn't know about that. I didn't read anything in the UK media back then but I believe the double standards when it comes to English vs foreigner.
I still think that Drogba stands as an example that you will have the respect you deserve when you respect the jersey you wear, no matter how you look like or where you come from.
No, I don't live in a bubble and I'm not denying the effects of racism in football. I'm simply disputing the notion that Pogba's criticism is related to racism. In 2019, nobody can criticise a black player without being called a racist. Even black people are accused of racism if they do so. That's the state of affairs.
 

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What the best in the league? 13 goals & 7 assists in one season 2016/2017. Pogba got 13 goals & 9 assists this season.
let's try and spell it out.

His form right before he went to Barcelona was up there with the best in the league, he went on the back of that really.
Coutinho had 12 goals and 8 assists in 19 games (2 of them as a substitute) in half a season for us the season he left - he was basically the best player in the league.
 

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Please some of us can't watch right now. What's the gist of it?
"Tomorrow Paul goes to Dubai."

Not sure what's in Dubai though.

EDIT: Also said he was at Juve's title celebrations just before the timestamp.
 

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Please some of us can't watch right now. What's the gist of it?
Sorry, got the time wrong. Basically says pogba is 5/5 likely to come back at the end of the video.
 

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Matic is hardly criticised in the mainstream media. He probably been one of our worst players this season and the main problem in the midfield yet you don’t hear much about him.

Not saying it is anything to do with racism by the way.
Matic has been criticised all the time amongst fan base as the main reason why we are so poor in the middle, pogba likes media attention, he's getting it, positive or negative.
 

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Matic has been criticised all the time amongst fan base as the main reason why we are so poor in the middle, pogba likes media attention, he's getting it, positive or negative.
Nothing to do with the point I made about mainstream media. They are pundits and are there to criticise and analyse performances, and yet Matic is getting away scot free.
 

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Offering skneone captaincy to stay is pretty stupid.
We might be offering him captaincy but I doubt it's as a carrot to convince him to stay.
 

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Ridiculous if true.. United captain used to mean something, now it's used to practically beg a player to stay.
No player is bigger than the club. How those words sound hollow right now.
Doubt Pogba will be made captain to convince him to stay, if he wants to leave he will leave. Arm band won't change his decision.

Valencia left, so Young is next in line to be club captain. Next season he might not be a regular player, so it's just one more next in line captain.

Solskjaer is looking for a new captain with Antonio Valencia set to leave on a free transfer at the end of the month.
Ashley Young, who signed a new one-year deal in February, is in line to take over from Valencia as club captain but with Solskjaer looking to sign a new right-back this summer, the 33-year-old is likely to have to settle for a reduced role next season meaning on-pitch captain duties are up for grabs.
 

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Doubt Pogba will be made captain to convince him to stay, if he wants to leave he will leave. Arm band won't change his decision.

Valencia left, so Young is next in line to be club captain. Next season he might not be a regular player, so it's just one more next in line captain.
It's silly if it's even being offered.
 

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Ridiculous if true.. United captain used to mean something, now it's used to practically beg a player to stay.
No player is bigger than the club. How those words sound hollow right now.
I agree. But can you name anyone currently in our team that is captain material. De Gea wants out, Herrera is gone, Mata not a starter, Valencia gone, Young NOPE.

Pogba fits the bill better than anyone.
 

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I agree. But can you name anyone currently in our team that is captain material. De Gea wants out, Herrera is gone, Mata not a starter, Valencia gone, Young NOPE.

Pogba fits the bill better than anyone.
Actually not. Never a captain material imo. Granted it's an awful team captain vise.
 

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It's silly if it's even being offered.
There is no one who deserves arm band. Going by the status of the player, it will be either him or De Gea.
 

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Nothing to do with the point I made about mainstream media. They are pundits and are there to criticise and analyse performances, and yet Matic is getting away scot free.
Matic has been dropped by the manager. Pogba likes attention, he will be scrutinised to every level when there is talk about building the team around him and the salary he earns and want to earn later in his career.
 

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Matic has been dropped by the manager. Pogba likes attention, he will be scrutinised to every level when there is talk about building the team around him and the salary he earns and want to earn later in his career.
Again nothing to do with media and football punditry. So essentially you have no answer as to why they have ignored Matic, other than well Pogba is the juicer story for them to cover right?

As for Pogba liking attention, what has that got to do with pundits and analysts whos job it is to analyse games and performances?

EDIT: In fact, no need to answer that last question. More of a rhetorical statement
 

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Actually not. Never a captain material imo. Granted it's an awful team captain vise.
Its worrying for sure. If we bought in a leader at the back like Koulibaly or De Ligt (maybe both out of reach) I'd give to one of them straight away. Our current group dont deserve the leadership role at all.
 

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Its worrying for sure. If we bought in a leader at the back like Koulibaly or De Ligt (maybe both out of reach) I'd give to one of them straight away. Our current group dont deserve the leadership role at all.
We can't really give it to a new player straight away, but that's where Young can actually come in handy. He can have the official role, but because he (hopefully) won't play all that often it can be shared around amongst other players. Then the new guys can have a season to establish themselves and if one of them shows a real leadership drive it's easier to give them the full role the following season.
 

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We can't really give it to a new player straight away, but that's where Young can actually come in handy. He can have the official role, but because he (hopefully) won't play all that often it can be shared around amongst other players. Then the new guys can have a season to establish themselves and if one of them shows a real leadership drive it's easier to give them the full role the following season.
It has to be given to someone A. That plays regular. B. Is a leader, on and off the pitch.

It doesn't matter imo if they are new to the club. If they are captain material.. and none of our other players are, then thats how it should be.