Pogba Future

[LawCharltonBest]

Very torn.

I don’t like the attitude of “if he wants to go, he can feck off” if it means we lose an unbelievable talent that Solskjaer is capable of building a title winning team around.

On the other hand, it’s been years now. He clearly isn’t happy. Sign Saul, get Dybala as a part exchange and we’re probably stronger

 

[reddevilz007]

An unhappy and unmotivated player is a cancer to the team, no matter how talented he is. Let him leave, the show must go on.

What do you do with a toxic person in your life? You get rid of it. Same situation here.

 

[Red Dreams]

He has a contract. He cannot just sulk and want to leave.
The club has every right to expect him to honour it or have Juve or Real to pay the Transfer fee.

 

[bond19821982]

Feck,.problem is not about Pogba leaving for 150m but we will spend 100m out of it on Maguire.

 

[GM K]

If Maguire is "worth" 80-90m in this market, Pogba is worth twice that.

Can't believe the press is on about Juve. After scraping together 100m to sign Ronnie there's surely no way they've got 150m+ to buy Pogba.

Player exchange plus cash most likely since Juve is not a verse to letting some players leave e.g Dybala and Sandro.

 

[GM K]

Problem with the idea of a swap deal is that the players involved have to agree to it and it is fair to think that some if not all of the names mentioned would turn down moving to a rebuilding club that is not playing CL football. We would also be bringing 3 high salaries onto our wage bill whilst removing 1 which would also impact our ability to offer attractive deals to other targets. Still feel straight cash or nothing is the way to go.

Good point.

 

[GM K]

Would it be acceptable in people’s opinion on here to swap Pogba for Cancelo, Dybala and Douglas Costa ? All three of those players would get in our starting eleven and be serious upgrades on what we have (Young, Lukaku and Lingard) in those positions and is probably about £150 million combined.

We could then go after Eriksen, Rice and Rabiot which would probably cost us around £120-£130 million and is a whole new midfield. We’d still have Matic, Fred, Pereira, McTominay, Garner and Gomes as back up so we’d have a strong midfield group.

Juve will be daft to offer Dybala, Costa and Cancelo for Pogba and we will be more daft if we refuse such an offer.

 

[MattyB1986]

Juve will be daft to offer Dybala, Costa and Cancelo for Pogba and we will be more daft if we refuse such an offer.

That will never happen anyway. All three of them agreeing to join us is Fifa stuff.

 

[Majima]

An unhappy and unmotivated player is a cancer to the team, no matter how talented he is. Let him leave, the show must go on.

What do you do with a toxic person in your life? You get rid of it. Same situation here.

If only we could remove the parasitic Glazers as easily. You know... the real problem for our club.

Maybe then, our best players wouldn't be so desperate to get away from us.

Remember you're talking about a player who felt he had came home when he left a CL final making Juve to rejoin us in the EL.

Whatever rumours people say about him, it cannot be denied that he's our only world-class outfield player.

He just finished the season with the most motm awards and the top goals/assists in the team from cm.

People should think long and hard about this point, instead of burying their heads in the sand and calling him the villain for not accepting the mediocre, comedy of errors circus we have become.

 

[Gasolin]

If only we could remove the parasitic Glazers as easily. You know... the real cancer to our club.

Maybe then, our best players wouldn't be so desperate to get away from us.

Remember you're talking about a player who felt he had came home when he left a CL final making Juve to rejoin us in the EL.

Whatever rumours people say about him, it cannot be denied that he's our only world-class outfield player.

He just finished the season with the most motm awards and the top goals/assists in the team from cm.

People should think long and hard about this point, instead of burying their heads in the sand and calling him the villain for not accepting the mediocre, comedy of errors circus we have become.

I agree but what can we do? Ole is proposing to Pogba to build the team around him, making him captain, all of that good stuff. If he's not convinced, what can we do to convince him that this time, we are trying hard? Everyone and his dog are wishing for Ole to fail because they don't trust him. When you keep saying that in all kind of possible form, it will reach the heart of everyone including the players and they will start doubting as well. And it's not like our transfer business was concluded in 15 days top chrono to show to the world that we are serious. For some reason, we are very very slow in doing any business. So of course Pogba is not convinced. But we should convince him, whatever the price, because he's the only one who accepted to come back and we have done nothing to show him progress.

 

[Get young talent]

He has a contract. He cannot just sulk and want to leave.
The club has every right to expect him to honour it or have Juve or Real to pay the Transfer fee.

Exactly,

I see it like the CR7 case.

Ronaldo wanted to leave 1 year before he really leaved because SAF wanted one more year.

Pogba can moan all day long, he as a contract, so if we feel that we can't bring in a good replacement we should not sell.

Real will wait for him if he is that good.

 

[He'sRaldo]

Amazing that you've got comments from the player himself just a day ago saying that he's intent on getting the club back on track, yet you're all here believing a french newspaper.

This.

Some people are simply hell-bent on being miserable for no good reason. The man himself came out and committed for the season, as some have been wanting him to do, yet we're still believing random tweets. Meanwhile all evidence that he might be staying is just completely ignored... it's just paranoia at this point.

 

[Marcus]

I hope we keep him if he is happy to stay.

 

[doriandun]

I honestly think we need to sell all the under achievers even if no replacements come in and use the next season to properly evaluate the likes of Rashford, martial, McT and Bailey.

Worst we finish mid-table then we can properly rebuild once and for all.

Rashford contract expires next season, so he will more than likely play well just to get a contract and do a Martial, Bailly contract also expires next season, and would probably be the same.

On another note

Maguire could of been picked up for 70 mill last season, at the same time the club could of got rid of Jones, Rojo and Bailly, to soften the cost outlay.

Pogba has already cost the club the club in excess of 130 mill, if you factor in his wages and agent fees.

 

[Fer]

If we are going to end up selling Pogba, I would prefer a swap for players. For example: Dybala and Cancelo.

I'm afraid that if we just have the money, we could end up buying overpriced players like Wan Bissaka, Maguire, Rice, etc.

 

[jackal&hyde]

I don't think he will go but if he does, Ole will have mission impossible. We already have to replace Herrera and possibly Matic. We have to keep him no matter what and if he wants to leave then struck a deal for next summer, like we did with Ronaldo and Chelsea did with Hazard.

 

[SER19]

Was hugely critical of Pogba during season at times, hugely complimentary when he showed his worth for a spell.

The best case scenario is that he’s happy to stay and then our football improves and we start getting to the top again with him a key part of it

 

[Jib]

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Yeah they deleted and reposted it alongside another tweet.

It's written by Fred Hermel, a French journalist living in Madrid for 25 years and very close to Perez and Zidane.

It says that Zidane wanted Pogba for years. Every summer he asked the club to recruit him but because of Raiola, Perez always refused.

One of the conditions for Zidane's return was to sign Pogba. But Pogba asks to be the highest paid player in the locker room. Perez and his advisers consider that Pogba is not good enough to have such requirements.

So Perez tried to change Zidane's mind about Eriksen or other midfielders ( Van de Beek..), but for Zidane, it's Pogba or nothing. He believes that Pogba can do everything on the pitch. He's is fascinated by his uniqueness.

As for Pogba, he really wanted to come to Madrid and have Zidane ( his idol ) as coach. He also think that Real Madrid is the best club for him because he's in his prime now and he wants to win the CL. But he was chilled by the way Perez and his advisers
started the negotiations.

The article also said that Real Madrid have still not approached Manchester United for a transfer.

But that doesn't mean that Pogba will stay at Manchester United. He wants to leave and Juventus and PSG are also interested in him and unlike Madrid, they could give him the contract he wants.

 

[westmeath]

Exactly,

I see it like the CR7 case.

Ronaldo wanted to leave 1 year before he really leaved because SAF wanted one more year.

Pogba can moan all day long, he as a contract, so if we feel that we can't bring in a good replacement we should not sell.

Real will wait for him if he is that good.

But he’s not that good and Real Madrid know that.

We should mug Juventus for £150m or two good players or whatever and move on.

Deal if the decade if we pull that off.

 

[Sandikan]

They can put as many stories out as they like but unless someone ponies up well beyond 100m he's ours for another season.

 

[Sandikan]

But he’s not that good and Real Madrid know that.

We should mug Juventus for £150m or two good players or whatever and move on.

Deal if the decade if we pull that off.

"Not that good". Westmeath off the cafe.

Id probs go more off the top clubs who would love to bring him in

 

[NinjaZombie]

If Leicester wants 80m for Maguire, we should ask for 250m for Pogba.

 

[Spark]

I don't think anyone can afford £150 million. If he were to leave, the buyers would need to convince us to take expensive assets + cash to do a deal.

(Dybala + £70 million or Isco + £90 million etc. with other players possibly added to the pot.)

However, ultimately Pogba will probably stay and play shit and then leave next year for a more reasonable price...

Definitely will need some world class to replace Pogba. Issue is, it’s really unlikely that players will want to come to United. You can’t just force them into a deal.

Reckon he’ll either stay and be shit or we’ll flog him and replace him like we did Ronaldo.

 

[Mancnz]

If only we could remove the parasitic Glazers as easily. You know... the real problem for our club.

Maybe then, our best players wouldn't be so desperate to get away from us.

Remember you're talking about a player who felt he had came home when he left a CL final making Juve to rejoin us in the EL.

Whatever rumours people say about him, it cannot be denied that he's our only world-class outfield player.

He just finished the season with the most motm awards and the top goals/assists in the team from cm.

People should think long and hard about this point, instead of burying their heads in the sand and calling him the villain for not accepting the mediocre, comedy of errors circus we have become.

Well said

 

[U-N-I-T-E-D]

I can’t imagine Hazards unveiling at Madrid is helping the situation for us.

I reckon he’d love the opportunity to do the same and for an hour or so have 50,000+ Madrid fans strikingly his ego and applauding every time he touched a football.

It’s a bit cheesy but it’s a wonder with our marketing team that we don’t do this for big signings.

Rather than have them appear in a stadium full of doting fans, giving them a proper introduction we plonk them behind a table with a pen and say go on then, sign the contract and smile

 

[giorno]

He has 3 years left and it's a euro year. He's french, if he plays badly and gets benched at club level he loses the NT as well. He wouldn't even be especially expensive in wages next season.

United hold all the cards here. Don't think he'd risk trying to force his way out either, so that pretty much means United will have zero pressure to sell.

Next year

 

[sugar_kane]

I can’t imagine Hazards unveiling at Madrid is helping the situation for us.

I reckon he’d love the opportunity to do the same and for an hour or so have 50,000+ Madrid fans strikingly his ego and applauding every time he touched a football.

It’s a bit cheesy but it’s a wonder with our marketing team that we don’t do this for big signings.

Rather than have them appear in a stadium full of doting fans, giving them a proper introduction we plonk them behind a table with a pen and say go on then, sign the contract and smile

Would anyone turn up? I can’t see it happening somehow, I don’t think local Mancs would be overly arsed enough to drag themselves down too OT to see someone do keeps ups. Always found it weird Real managed to pack their stadium for these unveilings.

I suppose we could have gone to watch Sanchez do a live piano recital, that could have been something special.

 

[sugar_kane]

Also, I don’t think I’ve met a single fan in real life who is bothered about keeping Pogba.

Only ever seems to be on the Caf and Twitter that people are going nuts about him leaving.

 

[kouroux]

Also, I don’t think I’ve met a single fan in real life who is bothered about keeping Pogba.

Only ever seems to be on the Caf and Twitter that people are going nuts about him leaving.

I'd say the complete opposite for me.

 

[Pierluigi Casiraghi]

If it wasn’t for all the drama that comes with Pogba I’d be gutted to see him leave. But to be quite honest, I honestly couldn’t give a shit if he leaves. It might even be better for the team if we get in the right replacement. Lingard will hopefully soon feck off if he hasn’t got his dance partner anymore.

Well said. I've never warmed to the guy, to say the least.

I get where people are coming from when they say it makes no sense that a United fan would want our best player to leave. The older I get, the more football is just entertainment to me, I'm less and less of the mentality that trophies is everything and I don't care how shit the football is. Likewise, I just don't find it as fun to watch my team when there are players in it that I dislike, regardless of how talented they are.

Not saying he's a bad guy, I just personally find the stupid penalty run up/dances/haircuts/social media stuff distasteful, childish and cringeworthy, especially when the club is doing badly.

I won't care at all if he leaves.

 

[pocco]

I'd say the complete opposite for me.

Don't you live in France? I'd imagine French supporters would want him to stay.

My experience has been the same as @sugar_kane

 

[flappyjay]

Would anyone turn up? I can’t see it happening somehow, I don’t think local Mancs would be overly arsed enough to drag themselves down too OT to see someone do keeps ups. Always found it weird Real managed to pack their stadium for these unveilings.

I suppose we could have gone to watch Sanchez do a live piano recital, that could have been something special.

 

[kouroux]

Don't you live in France? I'd imagine French supporters would want him to stay.

My experience has been the same as @sugar_kane

I currently don't but there's lots of United supporters here, I'd say 90% of them wants him to stay in the hope that the team will be improved, specially in midfield.

 

[RoyH1]

Would anyone turn up? I can’t see it happening somehow, I don’t think local Mancs would be overly arsed enough to drag themselves down too OT to see someone do keeps ups. Always found it weird Real managed to pack their stadium for these unveilings.

I suppose we could have gone to watch Sanchez do a live piano recital, that could have been something special.

Some of my Spanish friends tell me that a lot of there people that turn up for these things, are those that generally cannot afford a ticket to the Bernabéu. A lot of them South American immigrants.

Don’t know if there is some data to back that up.

 

[U-N-I-T-E-D]

I currently don't but there's lots of United supporters here, I'd say 90% of them wants him to stay in the hope that the team will be improved, specially in midfield.

I’d like him to stay if we got him to play to his potential. As annoying as he can be he’s probably our only world class player (maybe DDG) and when he’s playing well he can be a game changer.

That said, if the rumours are true and he wants out I rather not have home sulking around the place feeling sorry for himself

 

[Paxi]

Sell him for the right price and get Eriksson and Fernandes or some sort of replacement.

It’s clear he doesn’t want to be here so why mince around?

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

I find it crazy the amount of people who think Eriksen would actually come here . Absolute no chance.

 

[carvajal]

If Hermel wrote that article in L'Equipe, I would not take it so seriously.
He is more madridista than Sergio Ramos.
He has good information from Zidane and Benzema but maybe he is exaggerating a bit.
He recently said that Navas would stay, Kroos would leave and that Mbappe would be in Madrid before 30th of June, which seems very unlikely.

 

[Striker10]

I don't think we're suave enough in the market under the glazers but money is worthless to us. If we could bring in 2/3 quality players? That would be interesting but money? The glazers would screw us over and apart from anything else, we're not a selling club.

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

Very torn.

I don’t like the attitude of “if he wants to go, he can feck off” if it means we lose an unbelievable talent that Solskjaer is capable of building a title winning team around.

On the other hand, it’s been years now. He clearly isn’t happy. Sign Saul, get Dybala as a part exchange and we’re probably stronger

There is no way you can build a team around the client of that fat greasy cnut agent of his. The bloke is ALWAYS looking at the chance to move his clients around to generate another obscene bucket of cash for him to milk his floppy diseased member over.