RedDevil@84
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Just withdraw whatever was offered before. Peace for us, peace for him.Tweet
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Sadly i agree. We have had no direction for years. Only a change of ownership to a group that cares will change anything. It is beyond belief to see the way the club has deteriorated since Fergie left.Best thing PP can do for us is to say no to the glazers no matter how much they offer and go and sign for a club for less money where they are competitive. Maybe that will finally send them a message . I’m sure he can see it’s golden handcuffs and the club is treading water. He’ll be stuck here getting abused (maybe rightly so) until he’s the next Matic - Mata. The glazers don’t care that players are unhappy. “Will this number change your mind then” it’s soulless and we are going nowhere with them.
It would also insinuate that the FFF is also involved since the injury happened with France.I don't think he's crazy enough to fake an injury nor do I think the club's medical staffs are that daft that they can be tricked by fake injuries. But regardless of that, his injury record only adds more reason not to extend his contract. Henever looked like he enjoyed his time here. We gave him lots of money, we put up with his agent that constantly talked shit about the club, stood by him when his form was unbelievably bad. Pogba at United just never worked the way that both parties expected. Time to let go. We can't tie him to another massive contract on a long period of time. He's not getting any younger.
An hamstring tear. The current time table fits with a bad grade 2 or a regular grade 3 tear.What the feck did he do to himself on international duty to put him out for this long?
Thigh injury apparently, I mean who takes 4 months for a thigh injury?What the feck did he do to himself on international duty to put him out for this long?
You might well be right. And you forgot his negative attitude to the club exposed in constant angling to leave. Certainly up there with Alexis Sanchez, Djemba Djemba and Taibi. And quite probably eclipses them based in his poisonous attitude.Given his previous history with us, the huge fee and wages we pay him, the lack of quality on the pitch and terrible injury stats.
I'd say that arguably he could be our worst signing ever.
New haircutWhat the feck did he do to himself on international duty to put him out for this long?
I think this is where our club fails, a player who’s injured often and plays rarely but also has a contract extension waiting for his sign. A good club will have a detailed report about a star player’s injury and submit it to the coaches and managers to take an informed decision about his future especially if it involves huge money. We are certainly a good club when it comes to players recovery and not ruthless (phil jones situation) but pogba must be earning 5 times what jones makes in a week so we should take every situation according to its weight.I don't think he's crazy enough to fake an injury nor do I think the club's medical staffs are that daft that they can be tricked by fake injuries. But regardless of that, his injury record only adds more reason not to extend his contract. Henever looked like he enjoyed his time here. We gave him lots of money, we put up with his agent that constantly talked shit about the club, stood by him when his form was unbelievably bad. Pogba at United just never worked the way that both parties expected. Time to let go. We can't tie him to another massive contract on a long period of time. He's not getting any younger.
About bloody time.Pogba's been at Man Utd since Rangnick made his comments about players not recuperating at the club. The club is actively monitoring his injury FFS
Because he has no option that will give him the money.I have a feeling that he'll sign a new contract. It would be silly but logic is is something rare at United these days.
Then why doesnt come out and say so? This has been one of the biggest problems with Pogba, his reluctance to deny or confirm anything said about him. If he was more open and forthcoming it would perhaps make his doubters less sceptical about him. I think the truth is he enjoys being "enigmatic" as it all goes toward his "brand" image.The offer doesn't exist.
The clubs medical team rushed him back from ankle injury in 2019 and made him play on a fractured ankle vs Rochdale. He was rushed back again in December while injured and was forced to get the operation he should have got before, rightly on the advice of his own team.
It's not surprising he didn't trust them again.
That's my feeling too. We will be idiots and offer him a 350k contract at least and he will extend.I have a feeling that he'll sign a new contract. It would be silly but logic is is something rare at United these days.
This won't be a surprise. We'll offer a stupid contract and if he couldn't sign for another club, he would willingly take it and extend.I have a feeling that he'll sign a new contract. It would be silly but logic is is something rare at United these days.
Lukaku isn't a guy who is very sensible tbh, look at his recent interview, the man thinks he is blameless. Mourinho has a long track record of falling out with many players and dressing rooms.Well for a start you only have to look at his falling out with Mourinho.
Then you can look at what Lukaku claimed on his departure from Utd, which was along the lines of there being a toxic dressing room with the ringleaders being Pogba and Martial.
They're just examples of ones that are well known.
0 Prem League titles then... It's what he does for us that is the most important, not Juventus.It doesn't work quite as well when you actually count Pogba's league titles though? He has 4.
I hope that the contract offer that we've supposedly had for him is off the table though. At this point even the idea of losing him on a free for the second time doesn't hurt as much as a potential long-term deal on mind-boggling wages. He just isn't worth it, sadly.
I'm not arguing that he hadn't failed to meet even the most conservative expectations. He absolutely had, we shouldn't prolong his contract and he'll end up as one of our worst transfers ever (although not quite as disastrous as the absolute worst examples, somewhere alongside Veron). I'm simply highlighting a poorly constructed argument where a player with 5,5 seasons in England gets compared to a player with 17 Premier League seasons under his belt because... god knows why. And that arguments falls apart when you include the rest of Pogba's club career even though it's still far from over. Criticise constructively.0 Prem League titles then... It's what he does for us that is the most important, not Juventus.
But yeah, I pray this saga will come to an end this year. Sick of it.
It's not really a comparison or an argument between the two players. It's just a bit of banter. We laugh at Slippy G because of his zero league titles with Liverpool, i'm just saying that Pogba is equally prime for the pisstake.I'm not arguing that he hadn't failed to meet even the most conservative expectations. He absolutely had, we shouldn't prolong his contract and he'll end up as one of our worst transfers ever (although not quite as disastrous as the absolute worst examples, somewhere alongside Veron). I'm simply highlighting a poorly constructed argument where a player with 5,5 seasons in England gets compared to a player with 17 Premier League seasons under his belt because... god knows why. And that arguments falls apart when you include the rest of Pogba's club career even though it's still far from over. Criticise constructively.
And the article states Lukaku feels that Martial and Pogba can’t pass him the ball.The article can be traced back to Italian football journalist Paolo Condò
How credible is journalist Paolo?
He has been the Italian journalist designated for the ballon d'Or awarded by France Football magazine since 2010.
His won he World Cup you pleb. Let’s banter Roy Keane.It's not really a comparison or an argument between the two players. It's just a bit of banter. We laugh at Slippy G because of his zero league titles with Liverpool, i'm just saying that Pogba is equally prime for the pisstake.
What's more, we're (allegedly) paying him 500K a week for that pleasure of winning nothing with us!
If it has we would still leave the contract offer in the table.Just looking at the report that hes out until Feb at least. Did his leg fall off or what??
Like that means anything for Man United...jesus.His won he World Cup you pleb. Let’s banter Roy Keane.
The more I think about it and the least it makes sense. Injured players are on a different schedule than the rest of the team, it's one of the notorious reasons behind players struggling from a mental standpoint when they are injured for a long period of time since they are not with the rest of the team despite using the same facilities. And places like Doha and Dubai specializes in sports science, they have the best facilities, they have a large proportion of the best trainers and medical specialist which is why pretty much all top athletes, they ones competing individually end up spending a fair amount of time there.
So how's that Dubai going on then?Tweet
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Great. Decided to stay another 6 weeks.So how's that Dubai going on then?
I thought he'd been told to return? Been back a few weeks hasn't he?Great. Decided to stay another 6 weeks.
TouchéGreat. Decided to stay another 6 weeks.
I don't know you will have to ask different physicians. But it's fair to remember that one of the reasons behind those figures are the fact that the club misdiagnosed an injury, then the player and club decided to not pick the surgical option and almost 5 months later Pogba was finally getting the surgery, Pogba barely played during those 5 months. That happened in Manchester.So how's that Dubai going on then?
Funny how the best facilities always seem to be where the sun is.The more I think about it and the least it makes sense. Injured players are on a different schedule than the rest of the team, it's one of the notorious reasons behind players struggling from a mental standpoint when they are injured for a long period of time since they are not with the rest of the team despite using the same facilities. And places like Doha and Dubai specializes in sports science, they have the best facilities, they have a large proportion of the best trainers and medical specialist which is why pretty much all top athletes, they ones competing individually end up spending a fair amount of time there.
It can happen if the injury is a recurring one. Many players all over the Europe are injury prone like that. We're just too focused on Pogba for all kinda different reasonsI’m not saying he’s faking it but I don’t know another player on the planet that takes months to heal from some of his injuries.
Isnt that part of the recovery with certain injuries?Funny how the best facilities always seem to be where the sun is.
It's not a coincidence. It's linked to the fact that good weather is better for tourism and that these places specializes in medical and sports tourism. It would be funny if they decided to build their faciliies in Vladivostok.Funny how the best facilities always seem to be where the sun is.
Could be and it’s hard to be too sore on him as we don’t fully know, but in comparison to Kevin De Bruyne who seems to pick up the same kinds of injuries but is raring to go as soon as possible.It can happen if the injury is a recurring one. Many players all over the Europe are injury prone like that. We're just too focused on Pogba for all kinda different reasons
Wasn't his injury misdiagnosed by the club?It can happen if the injury is a recurring one. Many players all over the Europe are injury prone like that. We're just too focused on Pogba for all kinda different reasons
Warm weather is better but in this case it's simply due to the fact that places like Dubai, Doha, Florida or Arizona have a concentration of other tourism facilities, it's very easy to find high level amenities, you don't have to build them specifically for your own complex.Isnt that part of the recovery with certain injuries?
A sort of vitamin D to aid recovery?
Doesn't look like the Vit D has worked this time.Isnt that part of the recovery with certain injuries?
A sort of vitamin D to aid recovery?
Are you 100% sure its not just a case of Pogba liking a holiday in Dubai?It's not a coincidence. It's linked to the fact that good weather is better for tourism and that these places specializes in medical and sports tourism. It would be funny if they decided to build their faciliies in Vladivostok.