EL W Europa League Semi-Final 1st Leg

Manchester United 6:2 AS Roma

Post-match discussion


Thu, 29 April 2021

justsomebloke

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you make a good point. Another example is where a defender pulls down an attacker at a corner when the attacker wouldn’t have even got to the ball, or the ball was 15 yards away - it’s still a pen.

it is interesting because there used to be a tendency for pens not to be given If the attacker was kicking the ball out of play, and the ball was no longer under control. Technically should still be a pen, but the convention was often not to give it.

I still think it’s soft, as I thought Cavani landed on Smalling as much as being taken out.

it’s another grey area, that shouldn’t be grey.
Re your first example above; I don't think the point is how far away from the ball the attacker is or whether he could have gotten to it, but whether the defender is preventing him from participating in the attack. Even if he was far away from the ball when he got taken down, he might have gotten in position for a rebound or a pass as the situation continued. Hence, a basis for a penalty, but it depends on the situation. But if the action of the defender makes no difference to that (as I think was the case here), then it usually doesn't get called. And I think there's some sense in that.
 
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Re your first example above; I don't think the point is how far away from the ball the attacker is or whether he could have gotten to it, but whether the defender is preventing him from participating in the attack. Even if he was far away from the ball when he got taken down, he might have gotten in position for a rebound or a pass as the situation continued. Hence, a basis for a penalty, but it depends on the situation. But if the action of the defender makes no difference to that (as I think was the case here), then it usually doesn't get called. And I think there's some sense in that.
fair point. And similar to when a player is going past a defender or keeper and kicks the ball past, but he’s no chance of actually getting the ball before it goes out of play. They rarely used to be given, but almost always are now.
 

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@Niall what's happening with the return leg Matchday Thread?

I'm guess that the Matchday Forum doesn't allow for a match being abandoned, or something?

Or are you working on the basis that he supporters won't allow us to play any more games ever again?
:lol: the latter for sure! Seasons over as far as I'm concerned.

(I need to fix this, thanks for the nudge)
 

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If it means Woodward is on his bike earlier, of course!
Well that sorts that then! :)

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Well that sorts that then! :)

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Joke of a club, I resign.
Hello Mr. Trump?
Yes it's the Glazers. The last guy didn't last very long.....no, he had what they call morals. We need another inciter of violence and were wondering if you had some free time before you go to jail? ...... Yes, complete control of millions of people's emotions.... No, the only expectation is that you don't do what you say you will....yes, I believe you have the relevant experience....

Thank you sir, you are hired!!
 

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Hello Mr. Trump?
Yes it's the Glazers. The last guy didn't last very long.....no, he had what they call morals. We need another inciter of violence and were wondering if you had some free time before you go to jail? ...... Yes, complete control of millions of people's emotions.... No, the only expectation is that you don't do what you say you will....yes, I believe you have the relevant experience....

Thank you sir, you are hired!!
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“We the board have decided that the incumbent’s hands are too small and fall short of the standards of this great club. There’s also concern that the threat of attack by seagulls on his hair is too great a health and safety risk. Motion to hire denied!”
 

Man of the Match

Edinson Cavani image Edinson Cavani 72% of 334 votes

Runners-up

Player Ratings

6.9 Total Average Rating

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Score Predictions

149,4,23
  • Man Utd win
  • Roma win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 35% Man Utd 2:0 Roma
  • 15% Man Utd 2:1 Roma
  • 12% Man Utd 1:0 Roma
  • 11% Man Utd 3:0 Roma
  • 11% Man Utd 1:1 Roma
  • 9% Man Utd 3:1 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 5:0 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 2:2 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 0:2 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 0:4 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 5:1 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 0:5 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 5:2 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 4:0 Roma
  • 1% Man Utd 1:2 Roma
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
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Possession
64% 36%
Shots
20 5
Shots on Target
11 3
Corners
6 2
Fouls
12 12

Referee

Carlos del Cerro Grande