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Bournemouth 2:2 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Fri, 20 March 2026

I don't think I've complained about a referee costing us a match in at least 7 years. But this result is a severe black eye on PL refs and the PL.

I wonder if the PK is given if Bournemouth doesn't score. It just seems that played a part with the VAR decision, and that's disgraceful.
That penalty is given every single day if Bournemouth hadn’t scored. VAR bottled it.
 
Can't help but feel robbed and the circus with the ref hides what should be a very good point away from home. Carrick keeps passing them tricky tests, can't imagine the implosion that would have ensued under Amorim post that injustice and red card.
 
Very frustrating, with VAR as a tool these fools should be able to do their jobs correctly.

Still not a bad point, and if we win against Leeds in 6 months time we're in a good position.
 
Quite right to appeal it, the important thing is to register our frustration at the lack of consistency. At best we will get an apology but it's more likely the FA will come back with a generic line for these occasions saying the incidents were not clear cut and the referee's interpretation of them both was not seen as clear and obvious errors.

Like I said though, it's vital to raise these issues so maybe one day referees will stop being so useless.
 
I wonder if Sesko isn't starting because if we do then who is there to come off bench and make impact
Fair point.
But let's say he starts and bangs in a couple. Then we don't need to worry about impact from the bench.
I think Mbueno has been very good but his form has dipped of late.
Time to start Sesko.
 
I’m still fuming. We’ve been robbed.
The worst part was that it seemed so deliberate. It wasn't just inconsistent refereeing, it felt very much like an intentional attempt to ensure that we couldn't win the game. A ref can misinterpret something on the pitch, and it's even within the realm of possibility for the VAR team to do the same, but adding 9 minutes shows a clear and undeniable desire by the ref to manipulate things in Bournemouth's favor. That isn't a matter of perception, or having a poor line of sight of an incident. That's a ref who consciously decides to cheat in order to influence the result of a game.

You add 9 minutes when there have been long stoppages, like extensive time taken to carry a player off on a stretcher or deal with a pitch invasion. There was nothing of the sort in the game. 9 is just about the most that can be added to a game, and nothing happened that comes even slightly close to explaining it. That's what pushes things into the realm of outright corruption.

Can't help but feel robbed and the circus with the ref hides what should be a very good point away from home. Carrick keeps passing them tricky tests, can't imagine the implosion that would have ensued under Amorim post that injustice and red card.

With correct officiating, we win that game 3-1, so the circus spoiled more than just the feeling of a very good point away from home. It can also end up costing us a CL spot, in which case it costs us something like fifty million pounds, potentially even more if we could get far.
 
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I don’t think the 9 min were unjustifiable, average added time for a half with subs etc is 3 min, then 4 goals were scored, each took about 30-45s for celebration/restart, that’s 5-6 mins right there, and then the couple of VAR incidents.

The problem is, again, the inconsistency, you just know if it’s at OT and Bournemouth we’re the side down to 10 in that scenario, we’d get 7 mins, top.
 
I don’t think the 9 min were unjustifiable, average added time for a half with subs etc is 3 min, then 4 goals were scored, each took about 30-45s for celebration/restart, that’s 5-6 mins right there, and then the couple of VAR incidents.

The problem is, again, the inconsistency, you just know if it’s at OT and Bournemouth we’re the side down to 10 in that scenario, we’d get 7 mins, top.
4 minutes were added against Everton at OT earlier in the season, when they were leading with 10 men and had spent the entire second half wasting time.
 
4 minutes were added against Everton at OT earlier in the season, when they were leading with 10 men and had spent the entire second half wasting time.

Complete lack of consistency is the cause of all the issues with our incompetent officials.
On another day the same ref would give that Amad penalty. Hell, I'd bet good money on that being given yesterday had we not already got a penalty.
Same with VAR. Had it been 0-0 at that point and the ball goes out shortly after I reckon VAR intervenes and at least suggests the ref take a look at the replay.

Frankly it's a farce. I wonder how long it's been done we had a round of matches that didn't have a horrible VAR decision that wasn't immediately followed by a contradicting decision the following week.

And somehow the clowns running the show will find a way to defend both decisions.
 
Need stop tryna blame ref decisions etc etc

We were shite
We basically are shite and will be until big changes made.

I once said david may is a better defender than Maguire will ever be and I stand by it. However Maguire has always dug deep give his all etc but still he is shite. He turns like a lorry and it was a pen and red all day long.

Casemiro looked shattered (understandable with age) unless a masterplan next year we will struggle.

Shaw had a decent game few decent deliveries, we bring on Sesko and they stopped.

Bruno was even below par but every great needs a support act.

Carricks first big test was last week getting a result vs villa after his first loss. Here’s his second Leeds in couple weeks with possibly no experienced centre back.
Whilst I take the general point that we have to win a match irrespective of bad decisions or bad luck, it is absolute lunacy to suggest anything other than we should have been 2 nil up not 1-1, it is not even debatable that is what should have happened, from there it is a whole different game, who knows what would have happened, we could have gone on to lose 2-3 but we can't know because of the ref.

In addition whilst we could have finished our chances we were by far in a way the better team for the first 65 ish minutes and then just lost our heads when the Amad penalty wasn't given, Bournmouth were nowhere in that game until that decision.

Afterwards yes you can criticise our response but you cannot ignore, absolve or dismiss the impact of the refereeing
 
Complete lack of consistency is the cause of all the issues with our incompetent officials.
On another day the same ref would give that Amad penalty. Hell, I'd bet good money on that being given yesterday had we not already got a penalty.
Same with VAR. Had it been 0-0 at that point and the ball goes out shortly after I reckon VAR intervenes and at least suggests the ref take a look at the replay.

Frankly it's a farce. I wonder how long it's been done we had a round of matches that didn't have a horrible VAR decision that wasn't immediately followed by a contradicting decision the following week.

And somehow the clowns running the show will find a way to defend both decisions.
You’ve hit on a really important point there. It’s not that Premier League referees/officials are inherently incompetent, but I do think there is a noticeable tendency for them to try to manage the narrative of a match rather than just purely officiating what is in front of them.

Like you mentioned they probably would have given us the penalty if we hadn’t already had one, and I swear they do this almost as a subconscious balancing act. They seem aware of how any decision might look in hindsight: ‘If we give two penalties to United, people will say we’re favouring them!’ So they end up making calls to avoid being perceived as partial/biased rather than strictly applying the laws of the game in the moment.
 
Yeah I wish we would file official complaint on him and while we are at it go for Pawson as well

Just ignore the complete robbery then that took place which would have negated their threat afterwards. Yes we lack control in midfield but at least call out the utterly disgraceful decision making too.
Doesn't matter about being robbed. We were of course robbed. But you can't use that as a defense as to how lacklustre we are, Bournemouth were absolutely awful and only 2 players between the midfield and attack actually showed something for United in terms of attacking threat.

The midfield on top of each other, Bruno occupying Casemiros and Mainoo's space deep in the midfield because the ball just isn't moving up the pitch faster, Mbeumo offering next to nothing and passing the ball backwards most of the time, Amad running in circles with the ball looking for advanced option.

There was one point we were on the break in the first half, got as far as the final 3rd, either Mbuemo or Amad just passed it all the way back to the centre back. Absolutely pointless stuff.
So yeah, the referring was a joke, but as a team, it was much worse. We can't depend on a referee to ref the game down the middle, the team must take blame also ffs.
 
The point suddenly got a lot better with Liverpool losing today - but agree with the formal complaint. Rarely do you see 2 almost identical situations in the same game being treated so differently
 
Complete lack of consistency is the cause of all the issues with our incompetent officials.
On another day the same ref would give that Amad penalty. Hell, I'd bet good money on that being given yesterday had we not already got a penalty.
Same with VAR. Had it been 0-0 at that point and the ball goes out shortly after I reckon VAR intervenes and at least suggests the ref take a look at the replay.

Frankly it's a farce. I wonder how long it's been done we had a round of matches that didn't have a horrible VAR decision that wasn't immediately followed by a contradicting decision the following week.

And somehow the clowns running the show will find a way to defend both decisions.
If the referee had applied the rules, it would have been given regardless. Giving a team two penalties is not unheard of and the fact that the ref had already given one should in no way influence the decision to give a second. It makes me question the way the game is officiated, not only on the pitch, but from behind the scenes. VAR is a curse. It is far too easy to influence the outcome of a game this way.
 
Considering we were robbed out of the 3 points, you have to look elsewhere in the league for the silver lining, in this case Liverpool and Chelsea both losing. So we’ve gained a point on both. That could be vital at the end of the season.


Let’s hope villa lose tomorrow, in that case the the Bournemouth robbery has been absorbed to a decent extent when you think about it. Just Liverpool and Chelsea losing has brought some fair compensation.
 
So have gained a point on Chelsea, Liverpool but still annoying it's not 3 points on both after getting robbed two points last night.
 
The draw is still a bummer but at least Chelsea and Liverpool managed to lose more ground. If West Ham can do a job tomorrow, it could end up still being a positive weekend.
 
Think the ref was correct on the Maguire decision but wrong to turn down the Amad penalty shout. Should have been three points but one is OK in the circumstances. Not sure why Carrick took off Cunha, who was having a good game, instead of Amad. Onwards and upwards.
 
They just didn't want to deal with the home crowd backlash if they chalked off their goal to give us a pen. The officials in this country would rather protect themselves than correctly enforce the rules. I can't wait for them to be replaced by fecking robots.
 
On 40 mins, 1st half, they had a free kick a few yards outside our area. They took at least 2 mins having a fecking board meeting about what to do. Aside from other minor delays which would’ve brought it to about 3 mins, one minute was added, during a half largely dominated by United.
2nd half, 8 minutes went up, which seemed excessive enough but we got into the 11th minute before time was called. Guess who was pressing for a winner? Fckng joke, this stuff. Every week.
 
What on earth was Maguire thinking giving away a penalty so easily & getting red carded? :mad:

Oh yeah, I know, he just watched a Bournemouth player doing the exact same thing a few minutes earlier & the ref giving nothing so he thought he'd do the same & the ref won't give anything. :devil:

Cheating ref & VAR.
 
On 40 mins, 1st half, they had a free kick a few yards outside our area. They took at least 2 mins having a fecking board meeting about what to do. Aside from other minor delays which would’ve brought it to about 3 mins, one minute was added, during a half largely dominated by United.
2nd half, 8 minutes went up, which seemed excessive enough but we got into the 11th minute before time was called. Guess who was pressing for a winner? Fckng joke, this stuff. Every week.
This is becoming a growing problem at all set pieces. I think a time limit which counts down the way would be a good idea. Off the top of my head, corners and free kicks you have 30 seconds to play it or turnover the ball.
 
This is becoming a growing problem at all set pieces. I think a time limit which counts down the way would be a good idea. Off the top of my head, corners and free kicks you have 30 seconds to play it or turnover the ball.
Good idea pal… if the morons officiating could apply it without making it worse
 
I don’t think the 9 min were unjustifiable, average added time for a half with subs etc is 3 min, then 4 goals were scored, each took about 30-45s for celebration/restart, that’s 5-6 mins right there, and then the couple of VAR incidents.

The problem is, again, the inconsistency, you just know if it’s at OT and Bournemouth we’re the side down to 10 in that scenario, we’d get 7 mins, top.
The var incidents were seconds. One should have been incident wasn’t even checked. The goal celebrations were not excessive and substitutions were made in blocks very quickly.

To get 9 minutes added time from 45 minutes of game time there needed to have been a lengthy delay consistently every 5 minutes of the half, or the equivalent of. That never happened. Not even close to justify extending the half by 20%

Keep everything the same but they didn’t score penalty and we went 3-1 up, even though that’s more ‘delay’ that half would have had 5-6 mins maximum added on

Referees have long used added time to create grandstand finishers or like your Nan picks her horse for the national by putting a finger in the air and going with what feels more exciting. It needs to stop
 
What helps us is the Amad and Maguire incidents were so similar. If Maguire tugged him back and Amad’s was a mistimed sliding challenge it makes it easier for them to defend but they were pretty much the same incident and arguably the ‘lighter’ offence gets the harshest available sanction and the more obvious one has no action taken against it.

You can tell by the referee’s union response via Mike Reilly it leaves them no room to defend it when he pointed to the Dalot incident from way back. The equivalent of “I know you are but what am I?” in terms of reasoned argument. So I think they’re going to have to admit wrongdoing. Not that it helps but it’s marginally better than seeing them try and justify it
 
You can tell by the referee’s union response via Mike Reilly it leaves them no room to defend it when he pointed to the Dalot incident from way back. The equivalent of “I know you are but what am I?” in terms of reasoned argument. So I think they’re going to have to admit wrongdoing. Not that it helps but it’s marginally better than seeing them try and justify it

The Ref & VAR Ref need to be demoted to Non-League football with their wage packet reflected to that level.
 
Unfortunately the appeals won’t do much apart from possibly future reviewing of Atwell/Pawson. We will get a generic “We’ll learn from this” type of response while hopefully keeping pressure on officials to call the game how it is.
 
Still can’t get how that Amad penalty wasn’t given & the one for them for an identical challenge was.
 
Still can’t get how that Amad penalty wasn’t given & the one for them for an identical challenge was.
The one on Amad was more obvious. He was robbed, not once, but twice if you count the lack of VAR intervention. I think Amad's reputation cost us the call. The one against Harry was his hand touching the other player's chest and he goes down in an unnatural way. The ref was on the wrong side and fell for it. That one could have gone either way with VAR.
 
I honestly don´t get why it´s a red card. Yes, Maguire fouled him and it was a penalty, but the red card should only be issued when there´s no attempt to play the ball. Maguire was always trying to scramble back to Evanilson in order to tackle him.

Ultimately that´s a three game ban + penalty for a minimal holding offence that goes on all through a game. Maguire was wrong to use it then, but it did not ultimately stop Evanilson in his tracks. The Bournemouth player chose to go to ground, Maguire did not decide that for him; for that reason it makes no sense to produce a red card if the attacker ultimately stops the game.

The red card gives the impression that there was enough force in Maguire´s outstretched arm to send Evanilson sprawling. That´s another huge error from Attwell.
 
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I honestly don´t get why it´s a red card. Yes, Maguire fouled him and it was a penalty, but the red card should only be issued when there´s no attempt to play the ball. Maguire was always trying to scramble back to Evanilson in order to tackle him.

Ultimately that´s a three game ban + penalty for a minimal holding offence that goes on all through a game. Maguire was wrong to use it then, but it did not ultimately stop Evanilson in his tracks. The Bournemouth player chose to go to ground, Maguire did not decide that for him; for that reason it makes no sense to produce a red card if the attacker ultimately stops the game.

The red card gives the impression that there was enough force in Maguire´s outstretched arm to send Evanilson sprawling. That´s another huge error from Attwell.

It's a one match suspension.
 
Unfortunately the appeals won’t do much apart from possibly future reviewing of Atwell/Pawson. We will get a generic “We’ll learn from this” type of response while hopefully keeping pressure on officials to call the game how it is.
It will help as it is not the first time they made terrible and iexcusable decisions
 

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