[erikcred]

When you start bending the rules then you set dangerous precedent for future and open Pandora's box with possible excuses- "But it was only one player/ one card/ one minute/one hour/100k (regarding PSR) etc....".

And before you know it, we're at war with Japan! We do need to be careful with these slippery slopes.

 

[Escobar]

Moral compass rules. Love those.
I will remind you on that when City get small fine and their fans start saying "it was only minor issue with paperwork".

What a steange comparison. They did nothing on purpose. City cheated by millions, that is a big difference dont you think?

 

[Escobar]

62?

Months or minutes?

 

[Pronewbie]

It would have been good playing time for the fringe players.

 

[Joshithepog1]

"The first-ever club competing in the fourth tier of English football or lower to knock Manchester United out of a cup competition."

Imagine the changing room after the match

 

[CMRobbo7]

Leaving everything aside I do find it strange that any club can field an ineligible player and not be ejected from the competition. There really isn’t a context where in the professional game this should be ok.

A player playing any part in a game that they are ineligible for cannot be punishable with a fine. In theory their participation invalidates the game in which they participated.

I get why we haven’t appealed, but I don’t get the punishment for the crime, at all.

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

I don’t think we would be small minded. It would be standing up for what is right. Why would we accept this just because we are bigger club? Let people call us what they want. It is not like we haven’t heard a lot already.


I’m curious. How late is it ok? Why not 1h? 12h? 2 days? They had around 3 months to buy and register players.

Sure, let’s beat on the small ones. That’ll show them.

You are aware that mistakes like that happen more easily in small clubs with amateur setups, I hope. The slippery slope argument is laughable - we’re talking about a 4th division club!

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

Wouldn’t want to play board games with you guys

 

[distant_red]

Oh so they were told to submit by say 5 and didn't realize it was already 5 O'clock. They never stopped for one minute to think sht did that go on time? They didnt have a discussion saying hey is that transfer through ok? And not one person said ooh it was very close Im not sure. Then they never had a discussion as to if it was safe to play a player that they knew possibly was ineligible? Oh no they were all clueless innocent babies and no one has the right time. Poor babies. It was a wittle innocent mistake. We didnt knowsies. Come off it. I dont believe that for a second. If thats what happened then they fkn idiots and deserved to be chucked out anyway. Cops must hear this childish sht all the time. It was one small beer I didnt know. But thats my cousins aunties dope. My dog ate it. Bullsht. Might as well let City off as well. They didnt know guvnor!

But we played shitsy witsies and didn’t deservy to goes throughsies.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Wouldn’t want to play board games with your guys

 

[gaffs]

Has there been an example in English football of a result being overturned due to an ineligible player being used?

 

[90 + 5min]

I can’t believe this is even a topic of debate. That win was the best night of their lives and some would take that away from them on an extremely tame technicality? The romance of futból says Grimsby keeps their win.

This romance of football is long gone. Specially with introduction of VAR and all the money. But sure. They can keep the win. It is still against rules to play with a player that wasn't eligible to play if football followed its own rules. For me it is about making a statement that we don't accept this against our club. It is easy. It is what every big club would do. Complain and demand replay. We are not charity. We are here to play for trophies.

You can think in this way. This cup was maybe our only chance getting to Europe next year? And falling to do that might result in economic difficulties because of big spending.

Sure, let’s beat on the small ones. That’ll show them.

You are aware that mistakes like that happen more easily in small clubs with amateur setups, I hope. The slippery slope argument is laughable - we’re talking about a 4th division club!

This is just strange. Just because you are small club doesn't mean you have other rules. At least what I know.

It's not the same though is it? It would be laughably small time to contest this.

Even more embarrassing than the result in the first place. That stupid phrase 'give your head a wobble' springs to mind.

It is not small time. It is for club to send a message that we don't accept it. We all pretty much understand that game wouldn't be replayed or Grimsby thrown out. However, we can at least show that we are not going to accept this against our club. Make some statement. Demand replay even if it is not going to go through. Instead we accept. Like it is nothing. We behave like we are playing in League two.

 

[christinaa]

This romance of football is long gone. Specially with introduction of VAR and all the money. But sure. They can keep the win. It is still against rules to play with a player that wasn't eligible to play if football followed its own rules. For me it is about making a statement that we don't accept this against our club. It is easy. It is what every big club would do. Complain and demand replay. We are not charity. We are here to play for trophies.

You can think in this way. This cup was maybe our only chance getting to Europe next year? And falling to do that might result in economic difficulties because of big spending.


This is just strange. Just because you are small club doesn't mean you have other rules. At least what I know.


It is not small time. It is for club to send a message that we don't accept it. We all pretty much understand that game wouldn't be replayed or Grimsby thrown out. However, we can at least show that we are not going to accept this against our club. Make some statement. Demand replay even if it is not going to go through. Instead we accept. Like it is nothing. We behave like we are playing in League two.

Agree

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

This romance of football is long gone. Specially with introduction of VAR and all the money. But sure. They can keep the win. It is still against rules to play with a player that wasn't eligible to play if football followed its own rules. For me it is about making a statement that we don't accept this against our club. It is easy. It is what every big club would do. Complain and demand replay. We are not charity. We are here to play for trophies.

You can think in this way. This cup was maybe our only chance getting to Europe next year? And falling to do that might result in economic difficulties because of big spending.


This is just strange. Just because you are small club doesn't mean you have other rules. At least what I know.


It is not small time. It is for club to send a message that we don't accept it. We all pretty much understand that game wouldn't be replayed or Grimsby thrown out. However, we can at least show that we are not going to accept this against our club. Make some statement. Demand replay even if it is not going to go through. Instead we accept. Like it is nothing. We behave like we are playing in League two.

No, it’s not what every big club would do. Why? Because no one likes the bully. And this would be bullying and we’d look so incredibly stupid and ridiculous.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

This romance of football is long gone. Specially with introduction of VAR and all the money. But sure. They can keep the win. It is still against rules to play with a player that wasn't eligible to play if football followed its own rules. For me it is about making a statement that we don't accept this against our club. It is easy. It is what every big club would do. Complain and demand replay. We are not charity. We are here to play for trophies.

You can think in this way. This cup was maybe our only chance getting to Europe next year? And falling to do that might result in economic difficulties because of big spending.

Brother, I think you need to roll with it a little more and not be so rigid.

 

[golden_blunder]

Jesus lads move on

 

[Ted Lasso]

Grimbsy should sign Onana as a sign of thanks for both letting them through and not appealing.

 

[Yoralif]

We should have taken them to the cleaners. Everyone thinking we're bastards is better than everyone just thinking we're crap all the time.

A good heel turn to change our fortunes.

 

[christinaa]

The thing here is that 'know it all members' should learn to tolerate differences of opinions.
What might seem obvious to some may be interpreted differently by others.

 

[Gregawa]

It's over. Lock the thread.

 

[Battery]

Onana should pay the fine...

 

[LordSpud]

I'd be in favour of this on the proviso that free travel is provided to everyone who went to the original tie. How's the weather in Rio in September?

Even Clarke Oduor or nah?

 

[Rockets Redglare]

This romance of football is long gone. Specially with introduction of VAR and all the money. But sure. They can keep the win. It is still against rules to play with a player that wasn't eligible to play if football followed its own rules. For me it is about making a statement that we don't accept this against our club. It is easy. It is what every big club would do. Complain and demand replay. We are not charity. We are here to play for trophies.

You can think in this way. This cup was maybe our only chance getting to Europe next year? And falling to do that might result in economic difficulties because of big spending.


This is just strange. Just because you are small club doesn't mean you have other rules. At least what I know.


It is not small time. It is for club to send a message that we don't accept it. We all pretty much understand that game wouldn't be replayed or Grimsby thrown out. However, we can at least show that we are not going to accept this against our club. Make some statement. Demand replay even if it is not going to go through. Instead we accept. Like it is nothing. We behave like we are playing in League two.

How embarrassing.

 

[Red00012]

Standards in the gutter here

Move on

 

[Salford_Red83]

I mean, I understand the sentiment to be honest, of those wanting to appeal.

Just set your bias aside for one moment, imagine if this were a bigger club that did it in a cup game, say we were playing Liverpool, Chelsea, City or Arsenal. They fielded an inelligable player and won the game. We'd be absolutely demanding that they game be replayed. No ifs, buts or maybes. Why is it different because its Grimsby?

If it was the reverse and it was us that fielded an illegible player vs Grimsby you better believe that the entire country would be demanding a replay.

Its not small time at all.

Now, would we win? Thats the bigger question...

 

[rimaldo]

Shows how spineless INEOS is when push comes to shove. They should have demanded that the Premier League reinstate us to the completion, along with a bye into the next round (sorry to whoever Grimsdby drew (it’s their fault for being cheats.))

 

[moses]

This is on the verge of being a classic. Some of the pettiness and stupidity is outrageous.

 

[90 + 5min]

How embarrassing.

What is embarrassing? To actually want that people follow rules?

 

[Rainy nights in Stoke]

This romance of football is long gone. Specially with introduction of VAR and all the money. But sure. They can keep the win. It is still against rules to play with a player that wasn't eligible to play if football followed its own rules. For me it is about making a statement that we don't accept this against our club. It is easy. It is what every big club would do. Complain and demand replay. We are not charity. We are here to play for trophies.

You can think in this way. This cup was maybe our only chance getting to Europe next year? And falling to do that might result in economic difficulties because of big spending.


This is just strange. Just because you are small club doesn't mean you have other rules. At least what I know.


It is not small time. It is for club to send a message that we don't accept it. We all pretty much understand that game wouldn't be replayed or Grimsby thrown out. However, we can at least show that we are not going to accept this against our club. Make some statement. Demand replay even if it is not going to go through. Instead we accept. Like it is nothing. We behave like we are playing in League two.

Wow. You're way out of touch.

This is probably the biggest victory in Grimsby's entire history. They will morally be the winners of this tie no matter what happens. Kicking them out would be a punishment far, far, far exceeding the severity of the "crime", ridiculously disproportionate. And you want the proud institution of Manchester United to pursue such punishment? It'd be like a school bully kicking in the teeth and stealing the lunch money of a little kid in the schoolyard, just because the little kid was 1 minute late to the exam but got a better score than him. I'd be embarrassed to associate with the club if we did this.

 

[90 + 5min]

Wow. You're way out of touch.

This is probably the biggest victory in Grimsby's entire history. They will morally be the winners of this tie no matter what happens. Kicking them out would be a punishment far, far, far exceeding the severity of the "crime", ridiculously disproportionate. And you want the proud institution of Manchester United to pursue such punishment? It'd be like a school bully kicking in the teeth and stealing the lunch money of a little kid in the schoolyard, just because the little kid was 1 minute late to the exam but got a better score than him. I'd be embarrassed to associate with the club if we did this.

I could care less if that is their biggest victory. It is not about that. It is about following rules that are set.

The bold part is so far from what all this represent.

We can leave this now. We know that Grimsby won. We know that they used a player that was registered to late. We know that we will not appeal.

 

[christinaa]

Standards in the gutter here

Move on

 

[Red00012]

This is on the verge of being a classic. Some of the pettiness and stupidity is outrageous.

Out of interest when does post match threads get locked ?

 

[RedRocket9908]

Its not petty or small minded to want the rules of the competition to apply the same to all clubs in it regardless if the size or standing nor is it petty or small minded to believe a small fine is not a sufficient punishment for a offence like fielding an ineligible player who while being on the pitch illegally potentially affected the outcome of the game.

 

[hellhunter]

Its not petty or small minded to want the rules of the competition to apply the same to all clubs in it regardless if the size or standing nor is it petty or small minded to believe a small fine is not a sufficient punishment for a offence like fielding an ineligible player who while being on the pitch illegally potentially affected the outcome of the game.

Every word of this post is petty or small minded

 

[StamsShinyHead]

I get that international breaks are a chore, but come on!

 

[Ahmer Baig]

Will you guys give it a rest.

 

[Denis' cuff]

Leaving everything aside I do find it strange that any club can field an ineligible player and not be ejected from the competition. There really isn’t a context where in the professional game this should be ok.

A player playing any part in a game that they are ineligible for cannot be punishable with a fine. In theory their participation invalidates the game in which they participated.

I get why we haven’t appealed, but I don’t get the punishment for the crime, at all.

Shouldn’t be subject to appeal. Kick em out, automatically.

Still embarrassing, of course

 

[Redguern]

Sure, let’s beat on the small ones. That’ll show them.

You are aware that mistakes like that happen more easily in small clubs with amateur setups, I hope. The slippery slope argument is laughable - we’re talking about a 4th division club!

I'm happy we didn't appeal the decision but it is weird that we were put in that position in the first place. As an islander I am well aware that Guernsey FC was recently disqualified from this year's FA Cup for a similar offense and we play in the fourth tier of non-league football! BBC - Guernsey FC expelled from FA up after admin error

In that same article it also refers to a similar issue that Jersey Bulls experienced last season which resulted in them being docked 3 points and so missing out on a league title (at a similar level of non-league football). I didn't think United had any right to go through and it would have been a shame for Grimsby so that outcome is alright by me BUT it does seem very inconsistent treatment...

 

[golden_blunder]

I think we can move on from this now as adults

 

[moses]

I think we can move on from this now as adults

Typical GB, shutting down the truthers!

This is a disgrace. Asking us not to believe what we are seeing with our own eyes.