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Manchester United 5:2 Ipswich Town

Post-match discussion


Sun, 30 August 2026

Mainoo is just so enjoyable to watch, hes silky. I think some of the England stuff has give him extra fuel, I was worried when he looked to have picked up an injury.

Enjoyable to watch he is, but beyond that he's actually really effective...not that I'm suggesting you were suggesting otherwise. Mainoo is not a dazzler in the mold of Zidane or Ronaldinho. He'll spin out of trouble but he does so efficiently and effectively.

We had two de facto men of the match today -- Bruno and Kobbie. I have no idea if there is a still a "weekend XI" in the English media, but if it still exists there can be no question Mainoo makes that weekend XI. Kobbie's previous start was against Brighton in May and on that he was absolutely ridiculous. Bruno grew into the game and we know what he did today, but while the rest of the squad was a bit questionable (epic meltdown on the matchday thread), Mainoo was keeping the plates spinning until everyone else caught up and then we pulled away with glorious victory over plucky foe.
 
Was bricking it after they took the lead. Thankfully we came out better in the 2nd half and made it easy on ourselves.

Nice too that I can enjoy the other games highlights later without feeling shitty, like last weekend.
Onwards and upwards.
 
The thing is, it looks like we can always concede and we usually concede first under carrick, and then we have to rely on our players waking up and feeling the urgency to work it out (i haven't seen a stat to back this up, is just a subjective impression). Some games we will turn it around but for a change it would be cool to see us taking the initiative from the start.

Bruno motm obviously but Mainoo, what a player he is. Amorin and Tuchel are proper clowns
 
The thing is, it looks like we can always concede and we usually concede first under carrick, and then we have to rely on our players waking up and feeling the urgency to work it out (i haven't seen a stat to back this up, is just a subjective impression). Some games we will turn it around but for a change it would be cool to see us taking the initiative from the start.

Bruno motm obviously but Mainoo, what a player he is. Amorin and Tuchel are proper clowns
It feels like we're toying with our food when we attack, we're trying to make the perfect play instead of just being more direct. Once we concede we finally get serious
 
I watched the game in full twice to make sure I saw what I saw.

We were fortunate with 3 of the 5 goals (slip for the first, deflection for the 2nd and the ball falling to Bruno off the defender for his hatrick). The scoreline flattered us overall and the amount of shots went up after Ipswich capitulated when it went 3.1.

We shaped in 442 off the ball and a 424 when on the ball, but the front 4 weren't static and constantly dropping deep or running in behind which wore Ipswich down over time.

Lammens was impressive and assured. Martinez brought the line breaking passes we missed against Hull, to help progress through midfield. Mainoo was very impressive, he looked more mobile than either Tielemans or Santos have looked so far, and was everywhere he needed to be on attacking and defensive transitions.

Cunha was constantly on the move and caused them issues interchanging with Bruno and he got his assist and won the penalty so a much better and sharper showing this week.

Now to the bad parts, Shaw looks finished at the top level. Fatawu, another winger that had him on toast for about 25 mins during the game and was unlucky not to get two assists in that time of going directly at Shaw in 1 v 1s.

Tielemans was caught napping on defensive and attacking transitions. He's not playing with enough urgency and with it being his first two games it can't be anything other than he hasn't physically got it. He was always last into the defensive 442 shape today off the ball. When he got the ball he was easily closed down and gave the ball away far too many times under little pressure. He's not going to be a starter later in the season as he can't do what Baleba, Santos and Mainoo will and plug the gaps well. He's somewhat of a CM luxury player and Mainoo carried him today which is a good sign for Mainoo.

Mbuemo is direct and willing but he doesn't have the sharpness, or maybe he's not in the required shape to be truly successful as our winger. He's got so much ability and if he got sharper he'd be unstoppable, but since the start of last season, at times he looks like he's not going to get the very best out of himself and Amad will have another chance of displacing him on the right wing this season.

Rashford was bright and he did put a shift in today to start the press and win the ball back especially if he lost it in the first place. He'll battle Cunha for the left wing position but Cunha still takes it once Sesko is fully fit and reintegrated into the starting lineup.

We did still loft in crosses when Sesko wasn't on the pitch and that seems like wasted effort and we should be more patient.

Overall the first game at home was important to win and we did that. The win and some of the crazy stats we're seeing after the game shouldn't mask or cloud our shortcomings. We definitely need a starting left back if Carricks not going to start Dorgu at LB over Shaw.

We also need another number 9 if Carricks not going to pick Zirkzee when Sesko's not available to start upfront. So it's over to the scouting and recruitment team for the last 2 days of the transfer window. They need to get the two players in, and atleast Zirkzee out.

Carrick I feel needs to bench Tielemans and show him it's not been good enough so far, rather than overlook it and keep Mainoo or Santos on the bench who are bringing more much needed intensity. If Carrick can get De Ligt or Yoro in at RCB I think we'll be better than with Maguire. I want to see Yoro succeed and reach his potential but he's got to grab the bull by the horns, and be more aggressive to take Maguire's place. Maguire at this stage should be 5th choice centreback, so we can push higher with the defensive starters, and transitioning to be playing Heaven and Yoro more often. Heaven and De Ligt, or Martinez and Yoro are partnerships that give us the balance of youth, mobility and experience.
 
That first half was a bit concerning, but the second half was about as good and comfortable as one could hope for. Bruno obviously MOTM and looked pretty outstanding in that second half.

I was very impressed by Mainoo. He seems to have added to his game physically and his ability to take the ball under pressure and carry it through traffic is so valuable.

Tielemans a bit ropy taking the ball on the turn deep in our half two or three times. Shaw obviously owns that first goal and Martinez owns that second goal, though the latter's composure and ball playing ability really came to life when we got into the lead.

Glad to see Yoro get game time at RB. Hopefully a LB bought in the next two days who can demote Shaw to the bench, but if not, I'd like to see Heaven get a chance there.
 
Came in here to give special mention to Lammens. What a calming presence he is.
 
It will be criminal if the Board burdens Carrick with Luke Shaw as his starting LB. Can see an injury coming up after the transfer window closes
 
It will be criminal if the Board burdens Carrick with Luke Shaw as his starting LB. Can see an injury coming up after the transfer window closes
Trouble is they will just play Dorgu or Mazraoui there
 
….aaaaand here comes the 6-day inquest on Harry’s “blatant handball” which will be revisited in 2045 just like surrounding d’Urso, the 8 minutes added time vs Sheffield Weds etc etc even though we scored 5. Well, that’s ignoring the fact that we’d have never scored only for a bent ref who is notorious for favouring United. Business as usual 2026/27.
 
didn't like the lineup but we tend to play well when that happened, shows what i know about football. We were nervy in the first half especially after their goal, Lammens kept us in. I still can't believe he only became a first choice keeper in 24/25. We started to play well after we equalized. Lots of positives, Rashford played well and even tracked back and defend, Cunha will have a hard time if he maintains this. Kobbie played his best game for us, I think having competition for places helped. Sesko looked rusty but at least he is back, I hope we start him next game. Games can't come fast enough for me.
 
….aaaaand here comes the 6-day inquest on Harry’s “blatant handball” which will be revisited in 2045 just like surrounding d’Urso, the 8 minutes added time vs Sheffield Weds etc etc even though we scored 5. Well, that’s ignoring the fact that we’d have never scored only for a bent ref who is notorious for favouring United. Business as usual 2026/27.
Tbf, it was a mind boggling decision
 
I actually think that could be the most I’ve enjoyed a Utd performance since Fergie left. The second half was superb. The first not so much. I’m not getting giddy as clearly 3 other teams in the division (City, Chelsea and Arsenal) that have better squads. Let’s go for it though.
 
Tielemans is pretty much what anyone could expect, with lack-of-preseason factored in. Wonderful creator, but slow, not very athletic and not one to dominate large areas with energetic running. At Leicester and Villa he was always coupled with partners who could take care of that part of business, with us he's more exposed. Plus we have both Bruno and to an extent Cunha encroaching on his niche, he'll not be the one everything goes through like he was at Villa. Always seemed an awkward fit to me. But the lack of sharpness we've seen so far seems likely to be mainly rust, good reason to think we'll see a better version of him once he gets fully into gear.
 
Ffs. Can we stop some of the negativity for a bit after we score five goals and play some absolutely fantastic football
 
It is an extremely blatant handball also considering the rules.
The man was protecting himself from a potential kick with his hands, they were not extended from his body, and gave him no advantage as if he didn't raise them, the ball would have still hit his chest, with the same result.

It was clearly unintentional, and thus, valid according to the rules.
 
Tielemans is pretty much what anyone could expect, with lack-of-preseason factored in. Wonderful creator, but slow, not very athletic and not one to dominate large areas with energetic running. At Leicester and Villa he was always coupled with partners who could take care of that part of business, with us he's more exposed. Plus we have both Bruno and to an extent Cunha encroaching on his niche, he'll not be the one everything goes through like he was at Villa. Always seemed an awkward fit to me. But the lack of sharpness we've seen so far seems likely to be mainly rust, good reason to think we'll see a better version of him once he gets fully into gear.
If only we just signed the fastest ball winner in the league. feck
 
Couldn’t catch the game. How was Rashford? Any promising signs of a Maguiresque revival in form?
Rashford was quite good: tracked back regularly, made a good tackle near our box, set up Mbeumo for a goal (not Marcus’ fault Mbeumo missed the empty net from one meter), could have scored himself (good save by GK).
 
What a fun game to watch, second half we literally choked them. Need more of these kinda performances, CMON UNITED.
 
If only we just signed the fastest ball winner in the league. feck
Seems likely to be an effective partner for him, yeah. That'll help. Still a bit intrigued what the thinking is, what function they envisage for Tielemans within the whole. Possibly as someone who can shoulder the creative burden when Bruno isn't playing, so he can be rested more? Not the same position I know, but they are both creative hubs. Or as someone who'll enable Bruno to focus more on going forward? In any case, whoever is partnering him will need to focus more on defensive safety and covering large areas, that's the tradeoff.
 
I'm very curious about the next few games as the performance was a bit over shadowed by the result.

I don't think we played particularly well. It was more down to Ipswich being very open and making some critical mistakes that unlocked the game. They could've been 2 nil up in the first half and the game was almost done.

Bruno was good, Rashford was above average and Mainoo was good as well. However, what worries me is that most players still look unfit and slow as feck which is strange to say the least.

Added to all, our midfield still looks very odd and not only the midfield players, the ones around them who should help or occupy similar positions when needed.
 
I was watching a bit of MOTD and the own goal after the Maguire handball, desperate to paint it as intentional, but it hit two Ipswich players after it hit his hand. Peter Drury was banging on about the Onana foul not given vs Wolves at some point. They just can't let this stuff go when it comes to Utd.

This is going to be brought up again and again all season.
 
I watched the game in full twice to make sure I saw what I saw.

We were fortunate with 3 of the 5 goals (slip for the first, deflection for the 2nd and the ball falling to Bruno off the defender for his hatrick). The scoreline flattered us overall and the amount of shots went up after Ipswich capitulated when it went 3.1.

We shaped in 442 off the ball and a 424 when on the ball, but the front 4 weren't static and constantly dropping deep or running in behind which wore Ipswich down over time.

Lammens was impressive and assured. Martinez brought the line breaking passes we missed against Hull, to help progress through midfield. Mainoo was very impressive, he looked more mobile than either Tielemans or Santos have looked so far, and was everywhere he needed to be on attacking and defensive transitions.

Cunha was constantly on the move and caused them issues interchanging with Bruno and he got his assist and won the penalty so a much better and sharper showing this week.

Now to the bad parts, Shaw looks finished at the top level. Fatawu, another winger that had him on toast for about 25 mins during the game and was unlucky not to get two assists in that time of going directly at Shaw in 1 v 1s.

Tielemans was caught napping on defensive and attacking transitions. He's not playing with enough urgency and with it being his first two games it can't be anything other than he hasn't physically got it. He was always last into the defensive 442 shape today off the ball. When he got the ball he was easily closed down and gave the ball away far too many times under little pressure. He's not going to be a starter later in the season as he can't do what Baleba, Santos and Mainoo will and plug the gaps well. He's somewhat of a CM luxury player and Mainoo carried him today which is a good sign for Mainoo.

Mbuemo is direct and willing but he doesn't have the sharpness, or maybe he's not in the required shape to be truly successful as our winger. He's got so much ability and if he got sharper he'd be unstoppable, but since the start of last season, at times he looks like he's not going to get the very best out of himself and Amad will have another chance of displacing him on the right wing this season.

Rashford was bright and he did put a shift in today to start the press and win the ball back especially if he lost it in the first place. He'll battle Cunha for the left wing position but Cunha still takes it once Sesko is fully fit and reintegrated into the starting lineup.

We did still loft in crosses when Sesko wasn't on the pitch and that seems like wasted effort and we should be more patient.

Overall the first game at home was important to win and we did that. The win and some of the crazy stats we're seeing after the game shouldn't mask or cloud our shortcomings. We definitely need a starting left back if Carricks not going to start Dorgu at LB over Shaw.

We also need another number 9 if Carricks not going to pick Zirkzee when Sesko's not available to start upfront. So it's over to the scouting and recruitment team for the last 2 days of the transfer window. They need to get the two players in, and atleast Zirkzee out.

Carrick I feel needs to bench Tielemans and show him it's not been good enough so far, rather than overlook it and keep Mainoo or Santos on the bench who are bringing more much needed intensity. If Carrick can get De Ligt or Yoro in at RCB I think we'll be better than with Maguire. I want to see Yoro succeed and reach his potential but he's got to grab the bull by the horns, and be more aggressive to take Maguire's place. Maguire at this stage should be 5th choice centreback, so we can push higher with the defensive starters, and transitioning to be playing Heaven and Yoro more often. Heaven and De Ligt, or Martinez and Yoro are partnerships that give us the balance of youth, mobility and experience.
On being fortunate with our goals: you really can't look at it like that. What we call "luck" is just one end of probability. The other is all those shots that get blocked, deflected outside or miss the target. Put in the shots, you'ln get lucky with some and not with others. The ones that bounce the right way, which some of them will, is the payoff on all the attempts.
 
2nd half was a joy but it doesn't change my feeling that Martinez is a poor players. I wished that all the players bought by the bald fraud can be sold ASAP. Which idiot loses the ball and concede a goal like that. If this is 3-1, how much pressure will be invited? Stupid player shouldn't be near XI.
Rio Ferdinand disagrees . "I would go as far as to say Martinez is the best centre-back on the ball in the game right now. I’m trying to think of someone else better who can break the line with passing, who can beat the press when someone comes to him and just move it, take the ball in tight areas; Martinez takes some beating. He was phenomenal on the ball today in terms of his passing, like top tier."
 
The plaudits will go to Bruno but Kobbie was outstanding . A joy to watch when he’s on form like that
 
Rio Ferdinand disagrees . "I would go as far as to say Martinez is the best centre-back on the ball in the game right now. I’m trying to think of someone else better who can break the line with passing, who can beat the press when someone comes to him and just move it, take the ball in tight areas; Martinez takes some beating. He was phenomenal on the ball today in terms of his passing, like top tier."
And Rio is just stating the obvious. Unbelievable take on Martinez that you responded to.
 
Some huge positives in the second half but that first half was eerily similar to the problems we’ve faced for years. Looked reasonable comfortable whilst never really controlling the game nor creating anything clear cut. Then conceding from a cross to a completely unmarked player.

We looked so much better with a bit of momentum so it’ll just be nice to see us start a game like that.
 
We are going to concede down that left flank so often this season. Twice y’day and against Milan Martinez shaw looked so vulnerable
 

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  • Man Utd win
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