Bilbo
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That's where the desire to quit stems from. This is never going to be that forum anymore where people can be patient enough to allow something to simply take shape. Fans just don't seem to think that way anymore.Good post. Don't leave the forum, there are some of us left who thinks like this, albeit we do seem to be in the minority.
I've highlighted before that there is little point comparing this Man Utd with the Utd of the 90s or the 00s without understanding the periods of transition that those sides had to go through and that the current side is going through now.
I imagine if this forum had been around in the late 80s, fans would have been almost unanimous in their desire to get rid of SAF. What most of the new crowd fail to realise is that by any modern definition of 'progress', SAF would have been kicked out the door on at least two/three occasions. People seem to think it was all linear progress. Far from it. SAF finished 11th in his 3rd season at the club. Just imagine that for a second! Imagine Ole finishing 11th this season! We'd have to close this site! We then followed that up the following season by getting beaten 1-5 by Man City and going 7 games without a win. Again, just imagine that now! It would be another three season before we lifted a league title, it's inconceivable a modern manager would have been given the chance to turn it around these days.
Likewise, when Roman Abrahamovic first came onto the scene at Chelsea, United were struggling big time. We had the likes of Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, Roy Carroll and David Bellion playing fairly frequently. We had Roy Keane partnering Laurent Blanc at CB at times. We had Phil Neville and John O'Shea playing together in CM...I mean...just imagine the levels of meltdown on here now!
I actually think we are well-ahead of what I would consider to be the base criteria for keeping Ole in a job. I don't even think it's a debate. Ole has surpassed every single one of my expectations.
Its getting more and more tiresome to find the posts by people whose opinions I want to read. I don't even care if people criticise or offer the exact opposite view from mine as long as they've thought it through rather than just angrily punched in words. Seeing the reaction on here after beating Milan actually gave me the hump, after a good night for the team.
I agree with your last point completely.