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Tottenham Hotspur 2:2 Manchester United

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Sat, 08 November 2025

Strange feelings after that. I didn't go into the game expecting anything, we played badly, but after leading for so long I expected more. Relieved not to lose but that's two average performances after a good October. Shame.
 
Anyone else notice whether Ugarte was just slow to come out or something had happened that kept him back, meaning that he played Richarlison onside for the Spurs second?
He won the original header from the corner but he was going backwards. He was never going to make it out on time if the ball came back in, so he'd have been better off picking up Richarlison rather than trying to play him offside.
 
4 points dropped the last two matches from about 15 minutes of madness. Spurs were dreadful.
 
Celebrating a last minute draw when it should have been a comfortable win, away from home to go second no less. How the standards have fallen. But I will take my leave. Go ahead, cheer and may these good times continue!
Oh feck off with your 'standards' bullshit. We finished 15th last season! Pull your head out of your arse and realise the universe isn't going to bend reality to keep you happy.

We're just not that good, but it's better than it was, and hoping that continues to a point we are actually good again is perfectly fine. If you can't support the club through that then switch off and come back when they're at your 'standard'. Or, I dunno, go and support Liverpool or Arsenal?

There's no such a thing as comfortable win away from home in this league, especially for United. They're still a massive scalp, and the fact claiming that is now more realistic than it's ever been only makes it harder.

We were 2-1 down with 10 men and scored an injury time equaliser. If you can't at least be content with that, then the problem is you.
 
At absolutely no point did we "have that game", no. We ceded all control in the second half yet again.

They had a period of 5-10min where they caused problems but up to their goal we defended really well, Spurs were struggling and it looked like we’d see the game out, it was one moment of quality from Tel that turned the game.
 
Draw is a fair result but how frustrating is Sesko. You would think at this stage he’d understand the pace of this league and that you can’t dick around with the ball. He was so slow then gets tackled and injured. Absolute donkey moment for him.
 
It's depressing that spurs are missing a huge number of players whilst we are at full strength. The only real progress I see is we have mbuemo to score goals. Strongly suspect we will see out this season with us being very average but not quite bad enough for amorim to get sacked
 
Dire second half, no control, no tempo, allowed them into it. Knew we wouldn’t keep a clean sheet.
The lineup a bit weird also with mbeumo on the left.
Good to get the draw at the very end with a great ball in from Bruno and good header from de ligt.
Bruno was good on the ball despite what others said but yes he can be sloppy at times.
Mbeumo probably motm.
 
Happier for this draw than most wins. Amazing last-second header. Super important point saved! Character shown.

Onwards and upwards!
I wish I was this positive.

I feel almost the opposite. Obliviously buzzing with a last minute goal but fuming that we conceded two goals in quick succession like last week.

Two pretty poor teams today and I guess a draw was the fair result but so frustrating how spurs subs made a big impact with yet again the players we bring on have the opposite effect.

Maybe once the dust settles I’ll see this as a point gained but right now that second half performance and result doesn’t sit right.
 
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Everyone here on about spurs playing midweek and that would be an advantage don't seem to realise that we are in desperate need of those midweek games against shite European opposition. Our subs lack confidence and even minutes to come on and make changes in games. Sesko needs a few goals to get going, mainoo and ugarte also in desperate need of games to even start looking like options off the bench.
 
Without Mbeumo's individual impact would there be an real progress this season, take him out of the team and you have a below mid table team again,
 
Just do not have the midfield to control games, which makes us very vulnerable in game like this when we are ahead.

We just have no composure to control a game and just pick teams off when we are leading.

This season is a work in progress for me, happy to get Europe and replace at least 3 players with proven quality, this will make all the difference imo.

At least we do not give up like before, we have team spirit and some fight in us so that's a positive.
 
No midfield control(like always with Manchester United), big money spent on another flop of a striker(wasn't delighted with the signing from the start, but had some foolish hope...). Amorim used all of his subs too early and unnecessary which led us to 10 men for the last 10 minutes of the match.

Neither team deserved the 3 points. Pretty fair result in the end.

Mbeumo is carrying the attack on his own basically, with some help of Amad.
 
Exactly. They had a man advantage for the second goal at home. And I think Lammens had the initial shot covered, but Richarlison is not going to have a scoring glance like that for the next three seasons. Don't think the sequence of actions leading up to goal could have been too different. But we needed someone other than Ugarte and Dalot on the pitch to keep control.
Well summed up and still a bit of doubt if Richarlison even meant it?
 
Oh feck off with your 'standards' bullshit. We finished 15th last season! Pull your head out of your arse and realise the universe isn't going to bend reality to keep you happy.

We're just not that good, but it's better than it was, and hoping that continues to a point we are actually good again is perfectly fine. If you can't support the club through that then switch off and come back when they're at your 'standard'. Or, I dunno, go and support Liverpool or Arsenal?

There's no such a thing as comfortable win away from home in this league, especially for United. They're still a massive scalp, and the fact claiming that is now more realistic than it's ever been only makes it harder.

We were 2-1 down with 10 men and scored an injury time equaliser. If you can't at least be content with that, then the problem is you.
You tell yourself whatever you need to, to make yourself feel better buddy. Anyone else's fault but the clubs of course.
 
Should’ve won it much earlier in the game.
That seems to be the issue we have, getting into a big enough lead to be able to make substitutions with no worry. Like that we now seem to have some fighting spirit back in the team though. I don't view it as a lucky point, it was a fair point for a game with two sides that didn't do enough to win it. Which is more of a worry for Spurs really than us. We have not lost two usually awkward games for us. I am more confident having Everton at home next than Spurs will be going to Arsenal.
 
Without Mbeumo's individual impact would there be an real progress this season, take him out of the team and you have a below mid table team again,
You can say that about any team. Take Salah out of the Liverpool side when they won the league and they wouldn't have won it.
 
Spurs play like zombies and you have to be disappointed that we couldn't score 2nd goal and kill the game. Felt sick after they went 2-1 up and thank God for that de Ligt equaliser otherwise it would be worst possible way to go into International break.

In the end, after being so poor in 2nd half and letting them make a comeback that's a good point like it was at Forest. Think it's so clear we need new midfield and LWB as well most probably. With better players in those positions we win this 3-0 weith all 3 goals scored in 60-70 minutes.

We play one game a week so have to show more over 90 minutes. There will definitely be moments of joy but also moments of frustration this season and not sure we'll be buying players in January so we're incredibly reliant on 33/34 years old Casemiro in midfield so that's far from ideal situation.
 
We definitely need some sort of upgrade in the middle of the pitch in January if we are going to challenge for Europe.

Sesko is going to have to learn quick (if he isn’t injured for that long) to deal with the pace of the league.

Draw is probably a fair result.
 
What a rollercoaster this was at the end!

Neither team played all that well and in the end, I think shared points are fair even if it feels bad after United led the scoreline for so long, but failed to hold onto it.
 
Thought we edged a poor first half, in which we looked very lethargic early on. We certainly didn't do enough to impose ourselves in the second half and capitalize on the negativity/lull within the stadium. Shouldn't be forgotten that Lammens kept us 1-0 up with two great saves and I never personally felt truly comfortable at 1-0.

Onwards an upwards, 5 unbeaten.
 
We’ve played Arsenal, city, Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham this season and taken 7 points from those games. (Bearing in mind we was by far the better team against Arsenal and let Tottenham back into that game)

The loss against Brentford and points dropped to Forrest and Fulham have cost us more.

All in all not a terrible start really. We have a half decent run of games but as mentioned above we are capable of dropping points at these types of games.

We have to kick on now, we’ve had are little fumbles with these draws, time to rack up some points.
 
On a positive note we've gotten two draws from games that we would definitely have lost last season.

It's clear that there is a lack of mental strength in the team still though. I feel the decision making when trying to control the game has gotten better, but the technical level of some players makes it impossible to play ourselves out of trouble. Even though Dorgu did well defensively today, I still feel that Amad is the only WB we have that has the required technical abilities.

It's a work in progress and i'm gonna try to take the positives from a game like this. The team will get better with each passing transfer window.

W: Lammens, De Ligt, Casemiro, Mbeumo.
L: Mazraoui, Cunha, squad strength.

Finally, I think people are to hard on Sesko. It was an absolutely brilliant recovery by van de Ven.
 
It was comfortable until Dalot came on. We’d have been better off playing with ten men.
 
Thought we turned a corner - this game makes me think we haven’t. Need to learn how to control games if we’ll have any chance of winning things again. Poor second half yet again.
That's a mighty big corner you thought we had turned.
 
Cunha was awful though.
So frustrating letting the game drift in the second half like that, versus a team that didn't really want to score either. But good to at least get a draw. Sesko needed.

A lot more aggression, Ugarte just makes us worse every single time he comes on the pitch it's outstanding.
wasnt Ugarte playing with 10 men? Asking a lot. First one we’ve 5 in a the box and Tottenham have two. Tel has nothing on so will turn and shoot apart from the defender in front of him the other 4 are just stood watching might as well have had their hands in their pockets. If that was Burnley the two nearest Tel would be busting a gut to block it in case he got through. Despite the praise and some footballing skills non are what you call defenders. Our defense and midfield is shocking but again Cas is doing great and Bruno is undroppable. Something will have to give soon. Our main issue is effort.
 
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Thought we were seeing the game out pretty well until the first goal which was really poor to concede.

The positive is the resilience shown. The concern is that once Casemiro comes off we generally look less capable of holding on for a win.
 
1 more point than we deserved, given how gutless the performance was against a dogshit Spurs team.

The decision to sub Casemiro continues to bite us in the ass. I don’t care he’s ancient, it’s the break next week, keep the man on.
Is Casemiro going off on an international break, if yes it isn't really a break for him.
 
All them Spurs injuries and we still couldn’t beat them. They are without 4 starters.

We managed 5 shots and we are at full strength.

Not good enough.
 
Thought we were seeing the game out pretty well until the first goal which was really poor to concede.

The positive is the resilience shown. The concern is that once Casemiro comes off we generally look less capable of holding on for a win.
Agreed. Last season we lose that
 
These past 2 draws where we squandered a chance to be second reminds me of those frustrating draws in Mourinho's first season. We'd go ahead, and not put the game to bed. Undecided if this is a positive or negative sign.

Surely its a positive compared to last season. We are a better team than last season and we havent sorted midfield out.

Our squad depth is terrible and there is a definite drop off every time we make a sub

We need a left wing back also, first choice i mean who will come in and just take that position like mbuemo has

Am i happy with a draw / no they were there yo be taken

Am i happy we got s draw in the end / yes improvement in last season
 
Lammens, De Ligt, Yoro, Shaw, Maguire, Amad, Casemiro, Bruno, Mbuemo, Mount and Cunha.

Thats 11 players in the squad with the requisite quality and physicality to play consistently in this league, in this system. Some of those cant play 90 minutes. And you cant make a balanced team out of it.

Its a big problem that every week we get wobbly when subs start happening.


On the game. They are rubbish. And thats their 3rd deflected goal in a row against us. Jammy. They deserved that bubble pop at the end the tin pot mugs.

I think we're a good midfield away from being one of the more dominant teams in Europe if healthy. The defence keeps being looked at, but their constantly doing a lot of great work. They move the ball well, they keep oppenents at bay and win their individual duel. In a similar fashion, Amad, Mount, Mbuemo, Bruno (when attacking) and Cunha have consistently shown quality and can create chances easily.

Our issue is that we don't have the physicality in midfield to cover the ground needed to consistently put teams under pressure. This means that we're either attacking or defending in a block for most of our games. Then when we face a decent side, if they have the ball, our defence has to consistently win a lot of duels. With less pressure on our defence, we very well may be one of the best defensive teams in the country, but our midfield duo doesn't allow us to do that quite yet. Casemiro can't last the full 90, and Bruno can't cover space.
 
Sesko is poor, Cunha was terrible. The substitutions were horrible
 

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