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I'm not sure if we're deliberately doing it that way, or if it's just because of how contracts and needs have happened. Last season we HAD to completely rip up that atrocious attack and completely rebuild it, which was also helped by actually having options to sell those attackers. Then this season it's obvious that midfield had to be by far the biggest priority due to Casemiro's contract expiring and Ugarte basically playing himself out of even sub appearances (and now being injured for most of the season) leaving us with only one real midfield option. Then next season Shaw and Maguire will be out of contract, we'll have a better idea whether De Ligt has been able to get over his injury and whether Yoro and Heaven look like they're ready to step up, so it does appear defence will have to take priority.Would seem like we are on track for replacing the backline next season, very strange approach to do a different 3rd every summer
It's the fullback for me that I feel shouldve been addressed alongside the attackers as we have all the prem proven attackers up there now with no support from Shaw or Dalot, but i agree the areas we have strengthened needed it, just wish we had of been more forward in getting a starting Left & Right backIt's one of those for me, we clearly needed an attack after that season where we finished 15th.
Our midfield was non existent at time last year, doesn't mean we couldn't sign a fullback or two, sadly we have 5 CBs on the books already would just be a huge amount of wages on one area.
Hopefully we are planning for a back 4 upgrade next year, then can plug any previous holes we have.
Do you feel like we'd have done more if we had sold more? Its completely criminal we are in the position we are with poor squad depth and having to buy in only 3 players at a time due to poor management of transfers in seasons priorI'm not sure if we're deliberately doing it that way, or if it's just because of how contracts and needs have happened. Last season we HAD to completely rip up that atrocious attack and completely rebuild it, which was also helped by actually having options to sell those attackers. Then this season it's obvious that midfield had to be by far the biggest priority due to Casemiro's contract expiring and Ugarte basically playing himself out of even sub appearances (and now being injured for most of the season) leaving us with only one real midfield option. Then next season Shaw and Maguire will be out of contract, we'll have a better idea whether De Ligt has been able to get over his injury and whether Yoro and Heaven look like they're ready to step up, so it does appear defence will have to take priority.
Think I saw in a podcast we are rumoured to be looking for a CB that can play LB. Which would line up with the Lukeba links. Vivel pushing it and rumoured to be 55 mil euros.This is absolutely nonsense. We ain’t signing a CB when we can’t even get a LB. We will rebuild our defence next season… they will cost us a lot this season but it’s unfortunate that we needed a midfield rebuild at the same time.
I thought it was the other way around as we have Shaw & Martinez who can cover LCB, but neither are good enough for LBThink I saw in a podcast we are rumoured to be looking for a CB that can play LB. Which would line up with the Lukeba links. Vivel pushing it and rumoured to be 55 mil euros.
I’d probably prefer him as a CB option but guess he could be a back up incase Shaw folds until next season and look for a proper LB and use him and put Lukeba back to primarily a CB.
That wouldn’t be too bad. I’ve been seeing rumours saying we wanted a LB/CBThink I saw in a podcast we are rumoured to be looking for a CB that can play LB. Which would line up with the Lukeba links. Vivel pushing it and rumoured to be 55 mil euros.
I’d probably prefer him as a CB option but guess he could be a back up incase Shaw folds until next season and look for a proper LB and use him and put Lukeba back to primarily a CB.
This.Harwood-Bellis is a fecking grade A prick. No, thanks.
I like this ideaThink I saw in a podcast we are rumoured to be looking for a CB that can play LB. Which would line up with the Lukeba links. Vivel pushing it and rumoured to be 55 mil euros.
I’d probably prefer him as a CB option but guess he could be a back up incase Shaw folds until next season and look for a proper LB and use him and put Lukeba back to primarily a CB.
Dalot's final ball is normally poor but he does support the attack quite well in terms of his runs, positioning and his build-up from deeper areas (where he does make the occasional mistake but overall he's much better than many people make out). It's why his goal+assist tally is normally decent (not great, but decent) despite his bad final ball, as he gets in those positions more than most. If he ever actually sorted out his end product he'd be a real attacking weapon, but he's at the age now that I doubt that will happen unfortunately.It's the fullback for me that I feel shouldve been addressed alongside the attackers as we have all the prem proven attackers up there now with no support from Shaw or Dalot, but i agree the areas we have strengthened needed it, just wish we had of been more forward in getting a starting Left & Right back
Do you feel like we'd have done more if we had sold more? Its completely criminal we are in the position we are with poor squad depth and having to buy in only 3 players at a time due to poor management of transfers in seasons prior
Best of a bad bunchChelsea have shown time and time again that if there’s a good offer for an academy player they’d take it and although I’ve only seen a little of Acheampong I’ve heard he’s potentially very good all round as he’s big but very quick and good on the ball
Completely agree....weve two top cbs with injury issues, two of the most promising young ones in europe and a very experienced one.Why are we looking at cbs that are worse than the ones we already have? If we're getting a cb we should be targeting quality, not just squad depth.
We have enough prospect CB’s. If we are buying a new one it needs to be a top class established player that walks into the starting 11.
Tbf our attackers made him look like prime Vidic. Doesn't mean he is that good.It’s early days for him in the prem but I’d be keeping an eye on Mendy at Hull.
Feel he has the potential to become a very good centre half.
Yeah hopefully two CB's signed in 2027, so need to try and get ourselves in CL KO stages to get moneyCompletely agree....weve two top cbs with injury issues, two of the most promising young ones in europe and a very experienced one.
Think these stories are nonsense anyway. We wont be buying a cb until next year, its not even about budget and prorities.
Maguire will go, we will be assessing if deligt has a future here from injuries, assesing the same with martinez and if he gets another contract. Also assesing if yoro and/or heavem have progressed enough to be our first choices....a lot to consider for deciding what we wish to sign....one thing for surw, as you state none of these names improve us at all
Buy someone who can play both roles Gary
Would say they are awful combo of less cash rich and less prioritised unfortunately. We are completely broke due to ownership and as you say 10-15 years of spending money on the wrong players. I guess all we can do is pray for a miracle this season and next summer we sign at least 1 CBThat’s what the pundits and commentators will have to say this season. Before last season, they say our attacks is not good enough, the last season the midfield is not good enough, the legs are not there, and now we have defensive problems. Everyone that watch United knows that we have many holes that needs upgrading and fixed, everyone knows that we can’t fix everything at once just a matter of we fixed multiple areas one window or just one big area one window. We have done the multiple areas to little to no avail. So change to what we seen from last season. Oh, and everyone should know and noted down on their head now that, yes, we are broke, the club is broke because after 10-15 yrs of wasted, neglected, reckless spending. We have to learn how to think twice before committing to singings as our room of making error is small. Our owners don’t want to spend much of their own money and they are just less rich compare to other owners or just less prioritised than others.
It is what it is, I have made peace with that. Most of the choices, we made were the wrong ones and it lead to what it is today. Right now, we have Ineos at least try to do it right, whether they will keep making good and right choices, remains to be seen. We have no other choices but be restraint and using our finite resources wisely because of our ineptitude from years ago. Changes takes time and efforts. Rather than moaning and complain every minute in every posts, we should just chill out a bit, go out have a nice beer or two with friends. There is more than football especially with all the shenanigans inside football right now.Would say they are awful combo of less cash rich and less prioritised unfortunately. We are completely broke due to ownership and as you say 10-15 years of spending money on the wrong players. I guess all we can do is pray for a miracle this season and next summer we sign at least 1 CB
Yeah his top speed is registered at 34.8 km/h making him one of the fastest CB's in the league. For comparison Yoro is 33.9, De Ligt 31.9, Maguire is 29.7- Among FB's Shaw is 34.4, Dalot is the only regular defender who has a higher registered top speed at 35.7.This would be the perfect kind of signing, he could develop at LB, with the view of moving to CB when he's ready. Covering both positions. Is he fast?
Put's up great numbers but no top club wants to touch him due to having a terrible attitude apparently.Oumar Solet who plays at Udinese. He's 26 years old, he's 6ft4 and. He's got 1 year left in his contract. He's very fast, he's decent with the ball and he's good in air.
If we cannot sign our first choice LB which seems to be Hall and the club is committed to going back for him next summer then it makes perfect sense to sign a LCB if we can this window.This is absolutely nonsense. We ain’t signing a CB when we can’t even get a LB. We will rebuild our defence next season… they will cost us a lot this season but it’s unfortunate that we needed a midfield rebuild at the same time.
Renan!Sign someone who can play CB and LB
Another player who would have fit this LCB/LB hybrid profile nicely was Honest Ahanor who is on his way to Chelsea (via a very weird loan at Palace this season by the looks of it).Yeah his top speed is registered at 34.8 km/h making him one of the fastest CB's in the league. For comparison Yoro is 33.9, De Ligt 31.9, Maguire is 29.7- Among FB's Shaw is 34.4, Dalot is the only regular defender who has a higher registered top speed at 35.7.
Put's up great numbers but no top club wants to touch him due to having a terrible attitude apparently.
If we cannot sign our first choice LB which seems to be Hall and the club is committed to going back for him next summer then it makes perfect sense to sign a LCB if we can this window.
Renan!
Sounds good, but isn't he on loan at Vasco de Gama from Zenit until December?Robert Renan is the best young CB in Brazil and precisely the profile we need. He also spent around half of his youth career playing in LB.
He's my #1 choice for CB that's both gettable/affordable and not premier league proven.
Will never happen unfortunately.
Yeah that has to be the priority next summerIt is quite peculiar that the club does these briefings. Will it help them in the market? Hardly. It didn't help this time around and we've given every other club looking for centre backs (and left backs, possibly right backs too) a heads up that we're in that market.
Anyhow, I hope we go for Kayode at right back, Hall at left back, and a monster CB who can play 45-50 games per season and organise the defense, take charge of it. Bastoni will be 28 next year, but I'd love for us to sign him. Scalvini is highly rated and fits the profile, but he's had one or two significant injuries. Rafa Marin is also highly rated.