Southampton defended amazingly tonight, the pace Liverpool play at is hard to defend against, and they put you under so much pressure. Fair play they restricted them very well.
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But issue was we were playing defensive midfielders and had no attacking outlet before Bruno arrived as Pogba was injured. We weren't dominating as Liverpool were against Southampton. It's their front 3 which should be blamed because their build up wasn't an issue like ours
Almost entire second half Liverpool played near Southampton penalty box. It's in the final 3rd that Liverpool messed it up. Saying Defence is responsible for that js not being honest. They have 2 ball playing CM playing as CB who can pass the ball well. I don't think anyone who watched the game would say Liverpool were ever in danger of conceding apart from one mistake by GK in that second half. Not sure what difference CB would have made which Fabinho and Henderson couldn't do.
Them match stats of Southampton's tonight I'd take that now against United if it means we're on the winning end. As horrible as it would be to watch, I'd take that over this possessive obsessive but not actually doing anything nonsense right now. Klopp needs to mix it up and we do the opposite to teams for a change, but we know full well he won't go full on Mourinho to United at home, just be more of the same again with similar result.
Klopp has nearly everything but he doesn't have this capability. It will be his way which, like you say, could be more of the same shit if players aren't mentally buying into it.
What's the opposite of mentality monsters? We're that now. Mentality pussies?
Such a titan of thought.
Let's hope Weetabix legs scores the winner against his former club tonight..
Get in there Weetabix legs... LMFAOLet's hope i was right in my earlier comment about Weetabix legs scoring the winner..
I think they do miss VVD a lot but not in defense. VVD can score from set pieces in vital moments. They now do not have that extra weapon anymore.
Teams should probably stop fouling us so
Liverpool defeats are so much better since Klopp is their coach
Alisson was unbelievably shit tonight. What in the feck was he doing so far off his line for the goal?
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We’re weren’t getting enough opportunities to test opposition keeper. Tonight we had plenty of the ball but the final pass was atrocious. Against Newcastle we had plenty of chances but the finishing was poor. Against West Brom we lost control of the game in the second half. Three games, three different problems at the core of why we didn’t win.
I don’t think this will last though. It’s three games where things haven’t clicked. Before West Brom we were looking like running away with it. Beat United and it all turns on its head.
This is a season where everyone needs to accept they’re going to have dips and we’re no different.
Fair evaluation. Your team is in the downhill from the peak. It is common. Still many games, too early now to draw any meaningful conclusion. Your team definitely remains favorite.
hope our young team can compete all the way to the end and win it eventually. They have the potential to learn just by keeping winning games.
Whats the proper context of this? Surely he was asked about United right? He didnt just start talking about United while complaining about his loss. Also, what is the actual stat, is he right?
I’d like to know how many more league titles we’d have won if VAR was in place since 92. Hint: it’s less than 17.Whats the proper context of this? Surely he was asked about United right? He didnt just start talking about United while complaining about his loss. Also, what is the actual stat, is he right?
Where does this idea come from?
You failed to have successive league wins throughout the month of November to the Spurs game, and that trend would have continued but for the last minute winner. The thing is whenever you won, it was by a big score line or against a top 6 side, that’s why it looked better than it really was.
I wouldn’t have put money in it, but before the Boxing Day - New Year fixtures kicked in, I said we could’ve been top even with the game in hand because the 3 teams you just played are precisely the sort of teams you have troubles beating recently. Your team is playing more like a cup side at the moment, up for it in the big games and CL fixtures but thoroughly anemic in the grind. I don’t expect us to get more than 1 pt at best at Anfield in the 17th but I don’t see your issue going away anytime soon. 4 pts out of every possible 6 would still see you up there come the end of this season though.
I personally think we’ll improve eventually. We normally do under Klopp. The tempo is off in the games against opponents like tonight. I think that can be fixed. Jota coming back would help freshen it up a bit.
After Palace we were looking like the best side in the league up to that point, capable of picking up the most points over the season. Now I’m not so sure but we’ll see how it goes.
It’s definitely a race.
Future Utd manager maybe?
Sometimes I wish we could scratch Owen from Utd's playing history, Ince played a big part in the first two leagues we won but he has torched his bridges with the club when he joined the scousers.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/foot...erpool-23262198.amp?__twitter_impression=trueWhats the proper context of this? Surely he was asked about United right? He didnt just start talking about United while complaining about his loss. Also, what is the actual stat, is he right?
Yep, pretty much just brought United into it when complaining about not getting penalties...
If VAR was in place a century ago Huddersfield would probably still be a major force.I’d like to know how many more league titles we’d have won if VAR was in place since 92. Hint: it’s less than 17.
All opinions are valid, but it's a bit weird to hold the defense responsible for the shots on target in the last 3 EPL games: 2 (for 17) vs WBA, 4 (for 11) vs Newcastle and 1 (for 17) vs Southampton. For 2D1L = 2 pts. That's 7 shots on target for 1 goal and 2 pts.
That's after a 7:0 win vs Crystal Palace where they had 14 shots and 8 on target.
They have a problem shooting on target right now, but not necessarily on the shots.
Is the defense really responsible for the lack of shots on target though?
Compare that to United last 3 EPL games: 4 (for 9) vs Leicester, 3 (for 11) vs Wolves and 9 (for 19) vs Aston Villa. For 2W1D = 7 pts.
That's 16 shots on target for 5 goals and 7 pts.
And we only had one penalty on those 5 goals.
Liverpool attack has a psychological issue right now.
I don’t watch Liverpool week in week out but everytime I watch them play they often wasteful, but the Crystal Palace was one of rare occasion. In that game, every shots on target were goals, I think the only save that the keeper made was when the score already 5-0 or 6-0. Everything just went their way in that match, from early goal, sleeping defending from palace and Ayew wasted opportunity twice to equalise the score to 1-1.
This psychological issue could be because one of the two factors. One, their players might be exhausted, with Jota injured, they played the same front three all the time. Although, you have to blame Klopp if he overplayed his players because Minamino started against Palace, played well, scored, won 7-0 and he rested Salah, and since then Minamino didn’t start any of their last three matches.
Two, it could be because this is the very first time they are becoming heavy favourite this season and teams were tailing them & put them under pressure. They might not able to handle the pressure.
However, one thing for sure, I’m not sure whether VVD would fix their finishing problem. He can save them by scoring headers in set pieces though which they often done it last season and two seasons ago.
You know, I wouldn’t mind in the slightest. It’s not just passion it’s his method of playing. If he has players of world class potential he could have an outstanding side. He’s looking better than Poch did at Southampton
Absolutely insane that Liverpool failed to win a match considering they literally got to choose how the fixture list turned out. And don't give me that bollocks about too much rest being bad for a team..The holiday schedule literally looks like it was drawn up by RAWK:
When a diver doesn't get what he wants when he does get fouled, how can you complain. This is something I said when Ashley Young didn't get fouls because of his past diving antics. What comes around goes around
No one is complaining. I'm celebrating in fact. Just being fair in saying if Pogba was a pen vs Villa, Mane was a pen vs Southampton
While I agree it doesn't matter where Mane was going or indeed where on the pitch the ball is. The bit about enough contact for him to fall I don't agree with though.
Mane stopped running and dived when he knew he wasn't going to get to the ball before it went out of play.
I posted the above exactly a month ago. Full conviction, no backing down despite the (blind but understandable) abuse on here.
Well here we are after a month exactly as I said it would be. And now you all agree it's City's title and no one else's. @Judas this is how I survived. With fachts, la.
Cheers mate. But I wasn't WUMing in this case as you can see.