Premier League Gameweek 1

  • The day many of you wished for has finally come - Match Day Score Predictions are no longer restricted to just 5 goals... *

    * The timing of this change is purely coincidental and has nothing to do with any perception of underperformance by any team in recent matches or fan pessimism, justified or otherwise, for future matches. (Probably).

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Arsenal definitely dominated the game and deserved to win, though I think Palace were denied a penalty in the first half when Gabriel clearly handled and which may have changed the game.
They had less possession, xG was pretty much even throughout and palace as you say were denied a pen. They didn't dominate anything. They started strong and then hung on and relied on Ramsdale who made a couple of very good saves.

Still, good win for them of course, palace away is a very tough game. But Arsenal didn't exactly impress.
 

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Saliba was MOTM. Absolutely fantastic player.

I've no idea which match you were watching mate.
I was saying in the fantasy PL thread, he is a world class player in the making. Put him in your PL teams - £4.5 is a steal.
 

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Arsenal definitely dominated the game and deserved to win, though I think Palace were denied a penalty in the first half when Gabriel clearly handled and which may have changed the game.
Not the one tonight that everyone is talking about they didn't
 

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I was saying in the fantasy PL thread, he is a world class player in the making. Put him in your PL teams - £4.5 is a steal.
That's not how fantasy works.
 

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Like fair enough over Rashford if that's your preference, but over Sancho is like saying you prefer Mahrez to Messi, not on the same planet
Yet to see it from Sancho at Premier League level, he's facing a different level of competition to what he's used to and cannot beat the fullbacks.

Saka is a very complete winger, as well as being younger, he's added end-product to his game. It's really not that tough of a take that Saka is ahead of him right now.
 

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Arsenal definitely dominated the game and deserved to win, though I think Palace were denied a penalty in the first half when Gabriel clearly handled and which may have changed the game.
They didn't even dominate possession :lol:
 

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They’re a few players short. Their depth is woeful. Look at that bench..
We were missing Tomiyasu, Vieira & Smith-Rowe as well, but we do need a couple more, I think Arteta has already a said we will look to sign 1 or 2 more.
 

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Yet to see it from Sancho at Premier League level. Saka is a very complete winger and he's added end-product to his game. It's really not that tough of a take that Saka is ahead of him right now.
Why even mention Sancho and Rashford though? Could you not just say you rate Saka and explain why?

The shitting on our players when they are playing is bad enough here let alone when they aren’t playing.

Just inflammatory for no reason.
 

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Once Saka has achieved anything close to what Sancho achieved, then we can talk (cough having the most league goals and assist before age 20 out of any player after mbappe (just 1 behind) over the past 30+ years).

Its like Nani to Ronaldo. Mahrez to Messi. They aren't in the same tier at all
How many more goals and assists do you think Sancho will get over Saka this season? 5 more? 10 more?
 

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Don’t see it with Jesus. Spends far too much time outside the box for a striker.
 

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Yet to see it from Sancho at Premier League level, he's facing a different level of competition to what he's used to and cannot beat the fullbacks.

Saka is a very complete winger, as well as being younger, he's added end-product to his game. It's really not that tough of a take that Saka is ahead of him right now.
it's a batshit crazy take
 

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Palace only lost 4 games at home last season, its a tough place to go as we seen last season. Will take any 3 points there.
 

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Sky currently cumming over Saliba (new Rio) and Gabby J.
Saliba was actually good, but for Jesus they must be showing the one run he made in about the 5th minute from every possible angle they have.
 

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Yet to see it from Sancho at Premier League level, he's facing a different level of competition to what he's used to and cannot beat the fullbacks.

Saka is a very complete winger, as well as being younger, he's added end-product to his game. It's really not that tough of a take that Saka is ahead of him right now.
Sancho is 1 year older and by Sakas age had set records for Dortmund with his productivity. Come on. Surely you can see some sense that United having a disaster year doesn't mean a player has to prove it all.

Or is Ben white better than Varane in your eyes too? Its a crazy statement to make. A club situation for 1 year doesn't erase Sancho being the 2nd/3rd best young talent after mbappe and haaland - by a distance.
 

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They’re a few players short. Their depth is woeful. Look at that bench..
I never said they are competing for the title but they are in the right direction. I line their future more then United atm.
 

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Arsenal will compete for top four. Palace might get top ten.
 

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How many more goals and assists do you think Sancho will get over Saka this season? 5 more? 10 more?
If Jesus keeps coming wide and taking up his position as he did for a lot of that match then pick any number you like.
I think Odegaard will do well with a forward line like that but you won’t see Jesus in the box enough as a 9 for Saka to rack up his stats.
 

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Scoreline flatters them. They started really well but Palace were all over them that second half, and they’ve had a really disjointed pre season. A better side would’ve scored a few against Arsenal.
 

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Arsenal dominated the majority of the first half but were on the back foot the entire second half. Lack of quality in finishing cost Palace today they could have at least taken a point.
 

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Saliba was actually good, but for Jesus they must be showing the one run he made in about the 5th minute from every possible angle they have.
He was the best player on the park first half apparently, Sky going HAM trying the big sell.

cnuts.
 

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If Jesus keeps coming wide and taking up his position as he did for a lot of that match then pick any number you like.
I think Odegaard will do well with a forward line like that but you won’t see Jesus in the box enough as a 9 for Saka to rack up his stats.
I disagree, I think Saka will get more goals and assists than he did last season.
 

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Scoreline flatters them. They started really well but Palace were all over them that second half, and they’ve had a really disjointed pre season. A better side would’ve scored a few against Arsenal.
Eze missed a glorious chance.
 

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Arsenal going to do feck all though Palace should have had 2 and they didn’t really play well…
 

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How many more goals and assists do you think Sancho will get over Saka this season? 5 more? 10 more?
I mean it's not all about the productivity, but yeah Sancho will beat him there as well (provided a fair fitness competition). In general play i don't think it is close between them. Genuinely. Its like comparing Rashford to Neymar, Nani to Ronaldo, mahrez to Messi.. my honest opinion is Saka isn't a patch on Sancho, the Sancho that played for Dortmund and that we've seen this pre season. Saka isn't capable of doing what Sancho can on a pitch
 

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Deffo. The Arteta fetishists will be rubbing something with glee calling it a new dawn it looked like a last season performance with a little opening fixture luck.
They won 2-0 where they dismally lost 3-0 last season, a venue where many teams will struggle. Very good result for Arsenal and even Liverpool or City would have taken that before the match.
 

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Palace only lost 4 games at home last season, its a tough place to go as we seen last season. Will take any 3 points there.
I am really happy with 3 points. It is always good to win the first game of the season.
 

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Sancho has scored 5 goals in 37 games for United. Its not that crazy of a take.

He has the potential to be a world beater but right now he isn't.
Explain the relevance of that stat? Sancho's career didn't start last season in a shit United side did it
 

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I mean it's not all about the productivity, but yeah Sancho will beat him there as well (provided a fair fitness competition). In general play i don't think it is close between them. Genuinely. Its like comparing Rashford to Neymar, Nani to Ronaldo, mahrez to Messi.. my honest opinion is Saka isn't a patch on Sancho, the Sancho that played for Dortmund and that we've seen this pre season. Saka isn't capable of doing what Sancho can on a pitch
Yeah, that's an utterly ridiculous take and I'm not even going to bother arguing with it :lol:
 

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Arsenal looked good for the first 20 mins but then we're pretty crap for the rest of the match. Palace should have scored twice.
 

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Don’t see it with Jesus. Spends far too much time outside the box for a striker.
And for all the fancy touches they were fawning over, he gave the ball away a fair bit and created feck all.
 

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This Arsenal are not top 4 yet, but they played very well in the first few minutes of the game, they have good young players in attack.

But that midfield is not up to the level of the rest, white right-back?

A slack Crystal Palace, missing Gallagher a thousand times, came very close to a draw.

Taylor arsenal's friend and xhaka the biggest imbecile in the competition as always.

Better games to come tomorrow.
 

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Once Saka has achieved anything close to what Sancho achieved, then we can talk (cough having the most league goals and assist before age 20 out of any player after mbappe (just 1 behind) over the past 30+ years).

Its like Nani to Ronaldo. Mahrez to Messi. They aren't in the same tier at all
Does that still matter? Many players are fantastic in their teens but rubbish in the big game which ultimately matters.