if you seriously think it's fair that big clubs can spend more than smaller clubs then there's no point continuing this conversation.
Premier League Gameweek 38 | Final weekend fixtures of 2017/18 season (13th May 2018)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
How is what I just said not fair? That's literally how United made money, totally fairly. Why should they not be allowed to spend that money? What's the point of a club trying to be legitimately good if there's no gain for anyone?
The system works. It's when people/companies start taking the piss that it gets stupid (capitalism in general too).
I don't think United ever took the piss. One of the best teams in the world and the most popular, and we spent just over the record a couple of times. Seems reasonable to me.
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According to your logic, each and every club should have equal amount of money. It doesn't work that way.
United is a big club because of what they achieved in the past. They consistently performed well since the inception of the premier league and worked their way to the top. In the process, they attracted more fans, sponsors and hence money. Other clubs couldn't do what utd used to do on a football field and that's why they were left behind.
City on the other hand was bought by a rich owner and they went on to buy a whole new squad. Was that fair for the clubs like Brighton or Burnley?
Without a doubt. We're still not big fish in Europe, I think we're 2nd tier now. We don't have the pulling power (viewers or fan wise) of the historical clubs nor are we fancied like PSG etc.. but that's changing albeit slowly. This season we were even installed as favorites for awhile. The reality is we need to win one or have a spell like United in the late 2000's where we make a couple of finals in a short space of time to be up there. We're kind of sitting in a weird group, we're above bigger clubs in odds to win but until we actually achieve it, we won't be accepted as a big club the way say Ajax, Celtic or Benfica are despite their glory days clearly being behind them.
This season alone despite our great domestic form we lost 4 times in the CL. Fair enough you could argue 3 of them (certainly 2) were dead rubbers but our CL record this season was played 10, won 6 lost 4, which is quite a poor showing and needs to be vastly improved.
Yeah. Pretty much the situation city are in currently.
Vardy's second goal was fecking brilliant. Proper stuff
Just imagining that Salah goal falling to one of ours, but them hitting it straight into the keeper or controlling it then booting it into the shin of a defender.
yeah, every club should be able to spend the same amount of money, if you want a fair competition. given it's not a fair competition then it's laughable when United fans, already ridiculously privileged compared to the rest of the league, complain that City have too much money.
why should Brighton fans living now care that United built their brand years ago and attracted more fans than them? still doesn't make it fair when all clubs start next season on 0 points, and we spend 10 times more than them.
I'm not "storming in" on anything. In certain contexts I'll discuss city in flattering terms without bias. But in my opinion drawing attention to records being broken need also be placed in context. There is just no escaping that its all been bought and there has been no organic success, no bedrock of hard work, there's no endearing quality whatsoever to the team that holds many records of a more than 100 year history - relegating greats of the game to the lower tier. I find it abhorrent and hard to swallow that the game is the way it is, and city propelled this superficial manufactured rubbish to another level.
Try to make a single post without thinking about man United, I'm speaking from a purely footballing fan perspective, and citys arab billions are not worthy of it. They have cheapened the value of the sport.
City fans make me laugh. They want a level playing field compared to the past? Yet at the same time they want the right to spend as much as they like?
They bang on about it being a new dawn where any club could be a winner. Make it sound like school sports days, where everyone wins and there’s no losers. At the same time, calling the league strugglers trash, who aren’t worthy enough.
My only hope is that something is brought in to restrict overspending compared to a teams means. City and their fans need to be brought down a peg or two, because they are lording it up over everyone like some Harry Enfield Loadsamoney sketch and it is quite frankly abhorrent.
As is the City totalitarianism with the media. Much like their owners, they won’t tolerate free speech.
Not to mention Ferguson , and a core of youth, was the factor of our success far more than money. When Ferguson left our dominance ended and had run its natural course. It was always going to happen, we weren't buying it we were sustaining it with an incredible manager and core. Too bad for most clubs in the league city were waiting with a blank cheque.
The whole thing just saddens me about the sport.
You keep telling yourself that Son. Most City fans were apoplectic with rage at the failure to win the title against us. It's unlikely you will ever have a chance to win the PL at home, against Utd, ever again. The story would have been passed down from generation to generation of City fan of ''Being there on that day''. All the records of this season will be forgotten over time but ''That Day'' would have lived in the memory forever. To say it doesn't hurt for you is BS.To say the CL SF was a bigger game is laughable. You lucked out by winning against a weakened PSG in the QF. Every man & his dog knew you had very little chance of getting past Real & this is exactly the way it panned out.
In regards to the CL, if you had taken out Liverpool you would have very likely taken out Roma too. Many would likely have put you as favourites in the final. Opportunity knocked & you failed to answer.