Hughes35
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Hazard was better to watch but Salah gets much better numbers and is more effective.
Lukaku is a world class striker.Never solely for me.
By numbers alone Lukaku is bonafide world class but the eye test says otherwise.
Yeah, when dining out on the riff raff. Tonight will probably be the prime example, he'll get 3-4 and everyone will go 'ohhhh, look, Lukaku has 6-7 goals this season in 9 games. Goal machine'.Lukaku is a world class striker.
SalahWhere do you rank prime Ribery between them?
Ribery 2013 is definitely above both of them.Where do you rank prime Ribery between them?
+ De Bruyne passingMessi's entire career = Hazard's prime dribbling + Salah's prime finishing.
All at a level higher. Messi's dribbling is level above Hazard's, his finishing shouldn't even be compared to Salah. Salah is average finisher but great at creating chances for himself.+ De Bruyne passing
Salah is 29 and Hazard is 30 and this is their respective trophy haul:If i was a neutral and wanted to watch an entertaining game it would be prime Hazard. If it was my team and I wanted to win trophies, Salah all day.
Judging a player purely on statistics is just dumb. Hazard was elite, people think think David Silva was elite, Robben and Ribery too. If you judge those 3 to Hazard on statistics Hazard beats all 3 of them.Shouldn't even be a question really. Hazard isn't in that elite bracket for me, doesn't score enough goals or get enough assists. Salah is genuinely top five in the world
Funniest thing is we were told for years stats weren't everything when Lampard was statically smashing even most strikers.Judging a player purely on statistics is just dumb. Hazard was elite, people think think David Silva was elite, Robben and Ribery too. If you judge those 3 to Hazard on statistics Hazard beats all 3 of them.
Hazard created the most chances in the premier league in his 7 seasons, most man of the matches too.
Wasn't that long ago after Hazard good world cup in 2018 and the way he started the season under Sarri that people were talking about him as the best player in the premier league and in Europe.
Yeah, if we are going purely on stats people are going to have to probably start naming Lampard as the GOAT CM or at least have him in the top 3 all time.Funniest thing is we were told for years stats weren't everything when Lampard was statically smashing even most strikers.
You have Salah scoring 3 goals in the last 3 games that probably rank as high as anything Hazard did all his career.I can completely understand people preferring peak Salah to Hazard but the disrespect shown to Hazard here is unbelievable. Hazard achieved incredible things at his peak and people really do play on that one bad injury plagued season to claim he was inconsistent.
There are loads of stats floating around that show that in the last decade only Messi and Ronaldo have more MOTM awards. It's not even close to the next PL player (95 MOTM up to 2020), so people saying he isn't effective or was inconsistent just doesn't ring true. You only had to watch Hazard week in week out to know that, he dragged Chelsea to several trophies and IMO was the best player at the 2018 world cup. He was simply unplayable on his day, hence why teams man marked him to oblivion.
The FA Cup Final v Utd, The EL final in his last game with us, the 14/15 and 16/17 title wins and defining seasons, THAT Arsenal goal, THAT Liverpool goal, THAT West Ham goal.
So yeah by all means go for Salah, i can completely understand as he's a world class player hitting new heights, but at least acknowledge just how good Hazard was and don't judge by today's Eden
You get triggered when someone praises Hazard.You have Salah scoring 3 goals in the last 3 games that probably rank as high as anything Hazard did all his career.
Yeah, most of what you said is true but it's not surprising to see Non EPL fans not rating Hazard highly. His CL record is poor for his standards and I dont think he had a memorable (or defining) season in CL.I can completely understand people preferring peak Salah to Hazard but the disrespect shown to Hazard here is unbelievable. Hazard achieved incredible things at his peak and people really do play on that one bad injury plagued season to claim he was inconsistent.
There are loads of stats floating around that show that in the last decade only Messi and Ronaldo have more MOTM awards. It's not even close to the next PL player (95 MOTM up to 2020), so people saying he isn't effective or was inconsistent just doesn't ring true. You only had to watch Hazard week in week out to know that, he dragged Chelsea to several trophies and IMO was the best player at the 2018 world cup. He was simply unplayable on his day, hence why teams man marked him to oblivion.
The FA Cup Final v Utd, The EL final in his last game with us, the 14/15 and 16/17 title wins and defining seasons, THAT Arsenal goal, THAT Liverpool goal, THAT West Ham goal.
So yeah by all means go for Salah, i can completely understand as he's a world class player hitting new heights, but at least acknowledge just how good Hazard was and don't judge by today's Eden
Especially his first touch is mint.Lukaku is a world class striker.
Not even true, Hazard scored a better goal against the Dippers at Anfield in the same bit of the pitch Salah did against City:You have Salah scoring 3 goals in the last 3 games that probably rank as high as anything Hazard did all his career.
You are rightSalah is 29 and Hazard is 30 and this is their respective trophy haul:
Salah - 2 Swiss leagues, a Premier League and a Champions League.
Hazard - A French League, a Spanish League, 2 x Premier Leagues, 2 x Europa League, a league cup, an FA cup and a French FA cup.
Fair enough if you think Salah is better but the reality is that having prime Hazard gives you more trophies than prime Salah.
I really think these last couple of years have made people forget how good Hazard was. He was dragging Chelsea to trophies and although I'm not going to lie and say I watched any of his french title win at Lille, he did win the league's player of the season so I would imagine he played a big part in that.
None of that is to say Salah isn't an incredible player, he is but lets not pretend he is some sort of trophy machine.
It is one of the weaker points of a very good player.Especially his first touch is mint.
Hazard could’ve had 2 champions leagues if his timing was better. Joined just after your win in 2012, left just before your win last season. Reminds me of Van Nistelrooy at United - an amazing career in a time when we weren’t at our best, bookended by successes he had no part in.Salah is 29 and Hazard is 30 and this is their respective trophy haul:
Salah - 2 Swiss leagues, a Premier League and a Champions League.
Hazard - A French League, a Spanish League, 2 x Premier Leagues, 2 x Europa League, a league cup, an FA cup and a French FA cup.
Fair enough if you think Salah is better but the reality is that having prime Hazard gives you more trophies than prime Salah.
I really think these last couple of years have made people forget how good Hazard was. He was dragging Chelsea to trophies and although I'm not going to lie and say I watched any of his french title win at Lille, he did win the league's player of the season so I would imagine he played a big part in that.
None of that is to say Salah isn't an incredible player, he is but lets not pretend he is some sort of trophy machine.
Even if Hazard had 1 CL or 2 people on here would still go for Salah because he scores more goals.Hazard could’ve had 2 champions leagues if his timing was better. Joined just after your win in 2012, left just before your win last season. Reminds me of Van Nistelrooy at United - an amazing career in a time when we weren’t at our best, bookended by successes he had no part in.
Easily better than Bale but not Neymar.Salah
Better question is if he is better than Bale or Neymar. At, the moment it's a no for me.
And R9 aside from that night in Old Trafford didn't have another memorable match in CL, wether because he was overweight or underperforming for RM.Yeah, most of what you said is true but it's not surprising to see Non EPL fans not rating Hazard highly. His CL record is poor for his standards and I dont think he had a memorable (or defining) season in CL.