laughtersassassin
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DM and striker
Think after Cooper's interview today we may as well remove RW & CDM off the list, he seems convinced that our top priorities in the summer is going to be CB & ST, yeah cracking idea Utd so who is going to supply this ST then if we aren't signing either of the the first two please enlighten me on this one.DM and striker
Think after tonight we should try and get Kane because City will go all in for Erling now I am certainI'd try to get Haaland first and foremost. If there's actually a chance in hell of getting him, that's where my focus would be.
You’ll more than likely be right. Still, a club like United should be able to free up space, and get the job done. I exclude Phil Jones though because let’s be honest, who will buy him? Maybe Matic might be a tough one due to the wages etc.I agree we would get more but we won't sell all of those players anyway
Yeah maybe a little bit less but around that sort of figure, so lets sayYou’ll more than likely be right. Still, a club like United should be able to free up space, and get the job done. I exclude Phil Jones though because let’s be honest, who will buy him? Maybe Matic might be a tough one due to the wages etc.
Mata
Lingard
Pereira
Dalot
Chong
James
Even with reduced fees surely 65/70 million could be generated from those players
Maybe a little more for Lingard if his fine form continues.Yeah maybe a little bit less but around that sort of figure, so lets say
Mata - free
Lingard - £15-£20m
Pereira - £10m
Dalot - £10m
Chong - £5m
James - £10m
Don't want to derail the twitter thread further. I think those positions are clear issues, I am just not sure, who would be a good signing to give us more consistency upfront. Kane, Haaland and Mbappe won't happen. Andre Silva could be a good option, but if it's between him and Sancho, then I'd rather have the latter. Calvert-Lewin would cost too much just like Maguire. Ideal scenario is obviously having Cavani for one more year.The problem's that we haven't exercised Cavani's option yet, so as of now, we're heading into next season with Martial, Rashford, and Greenwood as our strikers. Given Martial's form this season, I'm not surprised that we're looking at a new striker to not only add depth but some consistency. We have a similar situation with our CBs; Bailly might not want to continue on with us, so him leaving would leave us light at the back.
If we choose to miss out on one of the two key areas of improvement to bring in Sancho instead, then we might get away with it if our existing players remain fit enough or suddenly improve.
Maybe Zlatan's strike partner Isak could be an option too, time to start thinking like the club so priorities this summer are clearly CB & ST but looks like the other two key positions are going to be the next summer window at leastDon't want to derail the twitter thread further. I think those positions are clear issues, I am just not sure, who would be a good signing to give us more consistency upfront. Kane, Haaland and Mbappe won't happen. Andre Silva could be a good option, but if it's between him and Sancho, then I'd rather have the latter. Calvert-Lewin would cost too much just like Maguire. Ideal scenario is obviously having Cavani for one more year.
Signing Sancho should also mean that Greenwood would play more as a striker, which is what we should do with him IMO. On top of that Sancho should help Bruno, so that we wouldn't be quite as dependent in terms of chance creation on the Portuguese.
I agree that we need a CB, whether Bailly stays or not.
I know your right but CB over CDM will be a massive mistake imo.Maybe Zlatan's strike partner Isak could be an option too, time to start thinking like the club so priorities this summer are clearly CB & ST but looks like the other two key positions are going to be the next summer window at least
Yeah sadly both look to be true but hard to laugh when you feel so passionately about such incompetenceWhat's gutting (but also kinda hilarious) is that
a) We will probably spend the lowest amount of money since the Fellaini summer
and
b) The lowest voted position (CB) has been mentioned as being the number one priority by some journalists.
Believe me I so wish that I will be proved wrong but the signs aren't goodI know your right but CB over CDM will be a massive mistake imo.
I wouldn't mind us getting Sancho and a CB, honestly. Greenwood's link-up play means that Sancho will get into goalscoring positions, and Sancho himself can reduce the creative burden on Bruno if Pogba isn't playing. With that said, we'll still have to get used to Greenwood's growing pains as there's no guarantee of him being a consistent goalscorer next season, but I'd be okay with that, personally. We'd still have a problem with a lack of overall depth, so another short-term, cheaper option wouldn't be too bad. I'm thinking of someone like Alassane Pléa or Gerard Moreno (off the top of my head).Don't want to derail the twitter thread further. I think those positions are clear issues, I am just not sure, who would be a good signing to give us more consistency upfront. Kane, Haaland and Mbappe won't happen. Andre Silva could be a good option, but if it's between him and Sancho, then I'd rather have the latter. Calvert-Lewin would cost too much just like Maguire. Ideal scenario is obviously having Cavani for one more year.
Signing Sancho should also mean that Greenwood would play more as a striker, which is what we should do with him IMO. On top of that Sancho should help Bruno, so that we wouldn't be quite as dependent in terms of chance creation on the Portuguese.
I agree that we need a CB, whether Bailly stays or not.
Isak's really good when he has space to exploit. When you cut off that space or the supply to him, he isn't as useful. His movement isn't good enough to beat deeper back lines, and his finishing isn't consistent enough to make the most of relatively few chances.Maybe Zlatan's strike partner Isak could be an option too, time to start thinking like the club so priorities this summer are clearly CB & ST but looks like the other two key positions are going to be the next summer window at least
Yeah I would rather someone like Kane/Haaland too but time to start being realistic about our targets, would be something if we could at least get Varane in the summer but it's nowhere near enough that's for sureI wouldn't mind us getting Sancho and a CB, honestly. Greenwood's link-up play means that Sancho will get into goalscoring positions, and Sancho himself can reduce the creative burden on Bruno if Pogba isn't playing. With that said, we'll still have to get used to Greenwood's growing pains as there's no guarantee of him being a consistent goalscorer next season, but I'd be okay with that, personally. We'd still have a problem with a lack of overall depth, so another short-term, cheaper option wouldn't be too bad. I'm thinking of someone like Alassane Pléa or Gerard Moreno (off the top of my head).
Isak's really good when he has space to exploit. When you cut off that space or the supply to him, he isn't as useful. His movement isn't good enough to beat deeper back lines, and his finishing isn't consistent enough to make the most of relatively few chances.
My point is that, even outside of the top targets, there are better options than players like Isak and André Silva, players who are still effective even when facing deeper defensive lines. I've suggested a couple in my earlier post off the top of my head, but I'm sure that I can find more if I refresh my memory.Yeah I would rather someone like Kane/Haaland too but time to start being realistic about our targets, would be something if we could at least get Varane in the summer but it's nowhere near enough that's for sure
I doubt the club would openly communicate what their priorities are. I would make the same argument for Isak as I've made for Andre Silva.Maybe Zlatan's strike partner Isak could be an option too, time to start thinking like the club so priorities this summer are clearly CB & ST but looks like the other two key positions are going to be the next summer window at least
Pretty much sums up my line of thinking, I'd be okay with Rashford and Greenwood frustrating up front, if it means we finally fill that void on the right that's been there since Nani and Valencia declined.I wouldn't mind us getting Sancho and a CB, honestly. Greenwood's link-up play means that Sancho will get into goalscoring positions, and Sancho himself can reduce the creative burden on Bruno if Pogba isn't playing. With that said, we'll still have to get used to Greenwood's growing pains as there's no guarantee of him being a consistent goalscorer next season, but I'd be okay with that, personally. We'd still have a problem with a lack of overall depth, so another short-term, cheaper option wouldn't be too bad. I'm thinking of someone like Alassane Pléa or Gerard Moreno (off the top of my head).
Just listening to what Cooper said seems to suggest that RW is behind CB & ST this summer, unbelievably it might even be behind a backup RB but he talked about Dalot maybe coming back and taking that onI doubt the club would openly communicate what their priorities are. I would make the same argument for Isak as I've made for Andre Silva.
Pretty much sums up my line of thinking, I'd be okay with Rashford and Greenwood frustrating up front, if it means we finally fill that void on the right that's been there since Nani and Valencia declined.
Could be, considering we signed two RWs last summer, just think it would be a mistake.Just listening to what Cooper said seems to suggest that RW is behind CB & ST this summer, unbelievably it might even be behind a backup RB but he talked about Dalot maybe coming back and taking that on
Totally agree but the club don't care about either of those priorities this window which is a complete jokeThis club is an absolute joke if we don’t attempt to sign a RW or CDM.
I can already tell we’re gonna waste all our time trying to get Haaland who we inevitably won’t get and we’ll panic buy like usual.
Seems that the club feel ST is a bigger issue than RW and can see them putting faith in Diallo there insteadCB and RW are in critical condition. We will achieve nothing till we sort them out.
You have totally nailed our transfer issues with this post but especially the first two paragraphsThe great thing about this thread is that nobody is wrong. Each argument pushing the need for a CB, CDM, RW or ST has merit and is easily justified, which only leads to one logical conclusion: we need to address all 4.
The problem with our owners is that these positions won’t be sorted in 1, 2 or possibly 3 summer windows. So in that time, we might have another need or hole in the squad that needs addressing. In 2 to 3 years we might have a disgruntled Bruno who’s tired of carrying the team and not winning anything so he’ll need replacing. Or suddenly Maguire becomes injury prone due to all the heavy minutes he’s played the last 5 years. The frustrating thing is that you can make the case that we’re 2 or 3 genuinely world class players from being a contender. Sounds easy enough but our owners will always be a barrier.
The smart thing to do would be to address 2 of 4 positions each of the next 2 summer windows. Get CB and RW sorted this summer. It doesn’t have to be Sancho, it won’t be anyways, but plenty of other decent more affordable options. Neto or Raphinha with a CB this summer would be good business. Then next summer go all out for a striker and CDM. That should conceivably make us title contenders in 2 years, if we nail these signings. This to me seems to be a pretty practical strategy yet our owners will probably fluff it and shit the bed.
The majority of the fanbase do realise that CDM is the biggest priority it's the clowns running the club that don'tThere is no CB available in the market right now that will be a massive success unless we buy a CDM.
Unless Haaland is available, the priority has to be on CDM. It's amazing how people don't realize that. The only reason why we struggle to score against minnows is because we play both McT and Fred. Free one of those slots up by getting in a competent DM, you can play Pogba alongside this DM and you'd notice the difference this would make.
Add to that, this player would be able to sniff out dangers earlier and the defence wouldnt go into 3 v 3 situations that often
Good luck to them with it. I'm convinced ignoring cb and RW yet again for another summer window will end in tears.Seems that the club feel ST is a bigger issue than RW and can see them putting faith in Diallo there instead
I'm sorry to say but this is just wrong.There is no CB available in the market right now that will be a massive success unless we buy a CDM.
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Genuinely think we will sign an established CB but in regards to a RW & ST it looks very much up in the airGood luck to them with it. I'm convinced ignoring cb and RW yet again for another summer window will end in tears.
The situation is quite different. Rodri, for all his flaws last season, is a good defensive midfielder who does well to shield the CBs. He reads the game well, and the attacks that go through are 'filtered'.I'm sorry to say but this is just wrong.
We are in the exact same situation as City were last season when they lost Laporte to a cruciate and we're forced to pair the incompatible Otamendi and Stones.
This summer City did not solve that issue by upgrading their DMs. They simply sorted out the center defence by buying a center half compatible with everyone in Laporte's absence. Yet now with the self same DMs they are by far the best defensive unit in the league. Yet they leaked goals like a broken dam last term.
The problem with that is that Greenwood isn't a right winger and Haaland this summer is even less likely than Sancho was last year.I'm not even sure right wing is a need for United at all. Greenwood has been playing better recently and he needs time, so whilst that position was a definite issue a few months ago, I'm not sure it needs addressing now. You've got a young, English, home grown potentially world class player with a higher ceiling than Rashford...the last thing Greenwood needs is to be sat om the bench in all the big games behind some new signing. Greenwood and Diallo is an inexperienced RW pairing but they both need to be backed, especially Greenwood.
Having a world class striker is going to have a big impact on United though. Cavani is probably the best option currently as none of the others can lead the line, and he's likely going, so United need to bring in a genuinely world class striker, someone who can create his own chances and make it easier for the wingers. I think Haaland is the obvious option but if not, Martinez from Inter is a shout.
If United can head into next season with the following as the front three options, they have a chance of winning the league:
LW: Rashford, Martial, James
CF: Haaland, Ings/Wilson/Watkins
RW: Greenwood, Diallo, James
Indeed. I pray we sort out CB. It will change the most in this team I believe.Genuinely think we will sign an established CB but in regards to a RW & ST it looks very much up in the air