No, people are protesting violent behaviour that hurts innocents.
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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You've written several posts attempting to paint yourself as a voice of reason being unfairly criticised here, but this is simple dishonest and disingenuous. Neither vehicle is in anyway blocked. They are both completely free to reverse without hinderance.
Whilst I understand your point I'm not sure you have to be violent to highlight a problem. Extinction Rebellion have shown they could occupy and shut down cities in the UK for prolonged periods (London) and have brought the issue of climate change to the front of political debate. The vast majority of what they did was peaceful and resulted in very minor damage.
I appreciate the US is different but there are ways.
Imagine spending your time online defending policemen driving their cars through masses of people and believing to be the voice of reason.
In riots the Police basically have an unwinable job as no matter what they do if violence occurs they'll be seen as the aggressors so I do have some sympathy. But you only have to look through some of these videos to see that their are numerous examples of Police looking like they're enjoying the fight and escalating the situation.
As for that car video, couldn't they just reverse and take a different route?
As for that car video, couldn't they just reverse and take a different route?
Stumbled onto this gem this morning. I'd like to see more to what he else he may have said.
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So you're hoping for an extinction level event because of arguments about protesting? What in the psychopathic hell.
As I've said already in my first post..
This has been done to death now and I'm pretty sure my view is crystal clear. If you disagree then fine but I've offered more insight than some. I don't need to try and paint myself as anything. I'm simply giving an opinion.
Yeah, they could take a knee when the national anthem plays, for example.
Devil's advocate needed over here.
The Adam West Batman would have been the correct play.
Especially when a phrase like ‘Light them up!’ rings out from the swarm of cops.
This post was awful, but him on the whole is something else. You don’t see that level of crazy everyday. The guy once made a post that included the words (paraphrased) “If it’s possible to hire assassins on the dark web, then how is it fair that Alex Jones gets banned from YouTube”, and in that same post mentioning that debt should not exist for a country, because they can just print more money, so what are they really doing with the money to say the country is in debt?
What a wonderful insight, you should write a book.
That's fine.
But when you opinion is that they were blocked when the video evidence clearly shows they weren't, or when your opinion invents hypothetical emergencies that justify inexcusable actions, don't start crying when people call you out on it.
Everyone is allowed an opinion. The thing is, everyone else is allowed to disagree with it.
If there were global gatherings tomorrow that guaranteed the end of racial oppression if they hit critical mass, would you attend or self isolate?
That’s what I don’t understand the police should be a distance apart from the trouble and forming a barricade, letting the rioters exhaust themselves or rushing them when needed but they’re stuck in the middle of it spread out causing carnage.
It looks very unprofessional and causing more harm than good.
I want to understand why what appears to be happening in that video is good police work with tiny technical errors.Not sure that will force the issue tbh.
Why?
I also found a video on Twitter that highlights the mortal danger that forced the poor officer to drive into the crowd in the other incident.
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See how they surround the vehicle? The driver had only split seconds before the crowd would have lynched him. Such a brave colleague.
Very good post.
It's not about what's allowed or not allowed, it's about common sense
The man was in his porch, looking for something that doesn't happened often in his lifetime, in a very conducive condition (it's not like there's imminent threat of bombs or shooting), is that even necessary?
Again american cops loves to hide behind the what's allowed and not allowed. Yes they have that in their books that they can pinned a suspect as they see fit, but do they need to? In George's case it wasn't necessary, but they did it anyway because they can, because the law allows them to. If cops starts using their common sense like in most western countries none of this would happens. The lies isn't with the justice system, it's the human's error.
People mentioning social distancing in this thread....
Utter lack of understanding that almost all non-white people in America live with a Covid-esque threat every day of their lives.
Those who make peaceful reforms impossible make violent revolutions inevitable.
Anyone putting the blame on protesters can get to feck. The ruling class and the well off silent middle class had long ignored the plights of these people, swatting aside their grievances to protect their blissful personal comfort, grasping on the flimsiest of excuses to protect the police, a bunch of enforcers tasked with protecting their material interests at the expense of everybody else, so spare your pieties when people finally had enough and decided to burn it all down.
This will become the norms in our society until a new social and economic order is established, so it will get a lot worse with nary a chance of getting better.
Anyone putting the blame on protesters can get to feck. The ruling class and the well off silent middle class had long ignored the plights of these people, swatting aside their grievances to protect their blissful personal comfort, grasping on the flimsiest of excuses to protect the police, a bunch of enforcers tasked with protecting their material interests at the expense of everybody else, so spare your pieties when people finally had enough and decided to burn it all down.
This will become the norms in our society until a new social and economic order is established, so it will get a lot worse with nary a chance of getting better.
I didn't invent anything I simply made the point that there are circumstances that may require you to move through the crowd however there's no justification for doing so recklessly and at speed.
I'm not crying? I don't like being called a racist though for offering another opinion unless you think that's acceptable or me raising it as wrong constitutes "crying".
Anyway I think we are done with this now unless you want to carry on.
Can you name a few emergencies for which it's acceptable to maim a crowd of people to get to?
Even the tanks in that infamous picture didn’t run the guy over
Yeah I'm happy to leave it at that. I have my opinion of what you were trying to do with your original post and you're welcome to your opinion of me.
I think it's pretty obvious we are going around in circles with this. I'll repeat myself again though if it helps; there's no justification for driving through the crowd at that speed however there are circumstances which may mean going through the crowd in the car at a low steady speed is necessary. If you disagree then fine but it's been discussed plenty on the past few pages and it's de-railing the thread now.
Yep, can’t say I disagree with that notion. Whatever needs to happen to force change, should happen now. And any of the injury, death and damages suffered now would not be in vain.
Killing them “with kindness” in the hope of change, is wishful thinking.
I don't have any opinion of you as unlike many on here I don't jump to conclusions or try to assassinate someone's character without trying to engage and understand their point fully beforehand.
The tank drivers were being screamed at through their headset from their higher ups to run the protester over, but cooler heads thankfully prevailed.
Pretty sure the protester was picked up by authorities soon after his run in with the tanks.
Yeah they escorted him away and to this day no one knows his identity. Actually very interesting.
Do you actively practice your ignorance, so you can keep it topped up for all the discussions on here you clearly don't understand yet want to weigh in on?
Agree. I have seen a video where 10-15 people are beating shopkeeper's wife while he is helpless to protect her. I bet that he is happy with "helping the cause".
An other thing, people shouldn't face a crowd and swing a sword or use a bow. It's pure madness, people have lived in such comfort that they don't realize how dangerous a crowd can be, your acts of violence will be infinitely multiplied and there is a fair chance to be killed. This applies to police officers too, we have all seen some of them isolate themselves and seemingly believing that they are super heros, if the crowd turn on them they are dead. A shop can be fixed but you are not going to be resurrected.
I say that in particular for swordman, I don't know what exactly happened beforehand but swinging a sword is incredibly stupid in that type of context, it's not a movie you are vulnerable.
I say that in particular for swordman, I don't know what exactly happened beforehand but swinging a sword is incredibly stupid in that type of context, it's not a movie you are vulnerable.
So you are one of the "violence supporters" too eh? Makes sense I guess.
Yep, it's all for the good cause! Yay!
You gotta love the "beep" censorship though
they have no problem showing a man being stamped and stoned at close range but somehow they need to beep the swearing
they have no problem showing a man being stamped and stoned at close range but somehow they need to beep the swearing
I don't understand why all these mayors, governors and people in power have not given any speeches or addresses directly to all the police authorities and pigs who caused the problem in the first place. That Chauvin guy already had 18 citations against him. Minneapolis police have a long history of mistreatment yet it's taken a mobile phone video to make the world take notice.
They should arrest those 3 other pigs, direct their comments towards the police authorities and actually do something. Those cities would not be burning right now if Floyd was alive today. They will rebuild those properties but you can't bring all those dead black people back.
I don't blame what's going on now. It's the coppers' mess and they need to clean it up. Justice will stop the violence. It's not rocket science. They would do well to stop shifting the blame onto the protestors because they're going to look very stupid if those four pigs get away with anything less than long custodial sentences.
They should arrest those 3 other pigs, direct their comments towards the police authorities and actually do something. Those cities would not be burning right now if Floyd was alive today. They will rebuild those properties but you can't bring all those dead black people back.
I don't blame what's going on now. It's the coppers' mess and they need to clean it up. Justice will stop the violence. It's not rocket science. They would do well to stop shifting the blame onto the protestors because they're going to look very stupid if those four pigs get away with anything less than long custodial sentences.
Where have you seen this video?