Gaming PS5 vs Xbox Series S|X

Which do you think will release first?


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b82REZ

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I so wanted to like that game. It seemed like such a faf to get a coop session going. Any tips?
Not tried it yet and it'll likely be weekend before we give it a go. I'll let you know.

I wasn't mad keen when I played it years a go in single player but having someone along should alleviate some of the more tedious aspects of hunting the monsters.
 

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Portal designer Kim Swift joins Xbox

Kim Swift, lead designer on Portal, has joined Xbox Game Studios to work on its publishing programme.

Xbox announced the hire today via a Twitter post which mentioned Swift's role would be to "accelerate our innovation and collaborate with independent studios to build games for the cloud".


https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-06-21-portal-designer-kim-swift-joins-xbox

How can they even compete? :lol:
Maybe with more consoles sold?
 

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If you mention console sales you awaken @Alock1 from his slumber to tell us Microsoft don’t care about console sales.
I can summarise what he will contribute.

Sales don't matter because Gamepass means people play more games...

Exclusives don't matter because people don't like them and only want multiplayer... And Gamepass.

So don't look sales of consoles or games, just look at time played per game. Complete logic... Honest!
 

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I can summarise what he will contribute.

Sales don't matter because Gamepass means people play more games...

Exclusives don't matter because people don't like them and only want multiplayer... And Gamepass.

So don't look sales of consoles or games, just look at time played per game. Complete logic... Honest!
great post.
 

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I can summarise what he will contribute.

Sales don't matter because Gamepass means people play more games...

Exclusives don't matter because people don't like them and only want multiplayer... And Gamepass.

So don't look sales of consoles or games, just look at time played per game. Complete logic... Honest!
Sure.

Whether Sales matter or not, Sony will almost certainly always sell more consoles than Microsoft regardless of how important it is or isn't, barring a complete disaster on Sony's part.

Of course it matters, it's just not the primary kpi, but even if it was the most important thing to MS - Sony would still sell more.

Sony have the stronger brand and own a much bigger share of the market. That isn't gonna change.
 

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Sure.

Whether Sales matter or not, Sony will almost certainly always sell more consoles than Microsoft regardless of how important it is or isn't, barring a complete disaster on Sony's part.

Of course it matters, it's just not the primary kpi, but even if it was the most important thing to MS - Sony would still sell more.

Sony have the stronger brand and own a much bigger share of the market. That isn't gonna change.
Good job you weren’t Steve Jobs in 2007…..
 

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Sure.

Whether Sales matter or not, Sony will almost certainly always sell more consoles than Microsoft regardless of how important it is or isn't, barring a complete disaster on Sony's part.

Of course it matters, it's just not the primary kpi, but even if it was the most important thing to MS - Sony would still sell more.

Sony have the stronger brand and own a much bigger share of the market. That isn't gonna change.
They also have better games available on their platform, reaffirming the superiority of the brand positioning.
 

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Sure.

Whether Sales matter or not, Sony will almost certainly always sell more consoles than Microsoft regardless of how important it is or isn't, barring a complete disaster on Sony's part.

Of course it matters, it's just not the primary kpi, but even if it was the most important thing to MS - Sony would still sell more.

Sony have the stronger brand and own a much bigger share of the market. That isn't gonna change.
So Xbox will always in play station's shadow. Interesting

Regardless of how important it is :lol:
 

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They also have better games available on their platform, reaffirming the superiority of the brand positioning.
Absolutely. So far that's definitely been the case.
 

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Yeah, nothing at all to do with the 7 years of Playstation before Xbox even came into existence.
For all we know, XBox could have been neck and neck or even ahead right now. But they made some dumb moves around the end of PS360 era, and Sony did the opposite. They haven't always been an afterthought...
 

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For all we know, XBox could have been neck and neck or even ahead right now. But they made some dumb moves around the end of PS360 era, and Sony did the opposite. They haven't always been an afterthought...
Yeah, but to just ignore the advantage that Playstation had to begin with is a bit disingenuous.
 

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The 360 and PS3 had almost the exact same amount of sales and MS were generally considered to have had the better generation and made up a lot of ground on Sony. That was the perfect time for them to take control and instead they made a total hatchet job of the XBONE whereas Sony nailed it with the PS4. Brand loyalty only gets you so far and if MS hadn't made such a balls of things they wouldn't have been behind going into this gen.
 

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For all we know, XBox could have been neck and neck or even ahead right now. But they made some dumb moves around the end of PS360 era, and Sony did the opposite. They haven't always been an afterthought...
The 360 and PS3 had almost the exact same amount of sales and MS were generally considered to have had the better generation and made up a lot of ground on Sony. That was the perfect time for them to take control and instead they made a total hatchet job of the XBONE whereas Sony nailed it with the PS4. Brand loyalty only gets you so far and if MS hadn't made such a balls of things they wouldn't have been behind going into this gen.
Nah. PS3 released later, had terrible stock issues, a lack of exclusives in early years and a horrendous pricing. Nevermind the feature parity issues. And yet by the end of the gen Sony still overtook MS in sales.

If anything that shows the power of brand loyalty and share of mind. An incredible feck up by Sony and they still gained the ground.

As I said earlier, would take a disaster from Sony for Xbox to sell more, especially Globally. In the UK/USA, maybe Xbox could edge it, but elsewhere & overall - would be incredibly hard.
 

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Nah. PS3 released later, had terrible stock issues, a lack of exclusives in early years and a horrendous pricing. Nevermind the feature parity issues. And yet by the end of the gen Sony still overtook MS in sales.

If anything that shows the power of brand loyalty and share of mind. An incredible feck up by Sony and they still gained the ground.

As I said earlier, would take a disaster from Sony for Xbox to sell more, especially Globally. In the UK/USA, maybe Xbox could edge it, but elsewhere & overall - would be incredibly hard.
That's a huge disservice to the quality of games they produced in the later years to turn it around.
 

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That's a huge disservice to the quality of games they produced in the later years to turn it around.
More than anything it probably highlights that an early lack of exclusives really hindered Sony, which was turned around when the games started rolling out.
 

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I already agreed their exclusives are a big part of why they dominate share so not sure who you are all disagreeing with..

Absolutely. So far that's definitely been the case.
 

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I already agreed their exclusives are a big part of why they dominate share so not sure who you are all disagreeing with..
You're contradicting yourself. The PS3 caught up with the 360 because of exclusives and Sony attoning for earlier pricing mistakes and issues, not brand loyalty, as you claim in other posts.

Loyalty only gets you so far with consoles. Nintendo have the best brand loyalty of all and when they released a stupid console like the Wii U it still sold like shit
 

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You're contradicting yourself. The PS3 caught up with the 360 because of exclusives and Sony attoning for earlier pricing mistakes and issues, not brand loyalty, as you claim in other posts.

Loyalty only gets you so far with consoles. Nintendo have the best brand loyalty of all and when they released a stupid console like the Wii U it still sold like shit
Nobody is arguing that good games etc. didn't bring people to Playstation, it's just not the only reason. A poster above essentially said the only reason Playstation is more popular is because of the better games, which is clearly untrue.