The Firestarter
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Commentator says Welsh fans with rainbow colored hats not let in the ground.
Apparently told it was a banned symbol.Commentator says Welsh fans with rainbow colored hats not let in the ground.
Ah yes it's like a swastika innitApparently told it was a banned symbol.
Well made points.It may seem like the World Cup is a PR disaster from the perspective of the UK and Northern Europe more generally, but in Eastern Europe and Southern Europe the reporting will be very different (even in France, check out what Macron has been saying). That's before you move to South America, Africa, Asia - the assumption that they share our concerns re workers or gay rights is extremely naive.
It's highly likely that the World Cup in the end will project significant soft power as intended by Qatar. And in fact the beer incident and the armband farrago have shown how happy FIFA and the Qataris are to stick their middle finger up to Europe and the US. Much of the world will applaud it.
This attitude may easily turn WC into a Borat-revisiting-Qatar spoof, then…
Well English fans 1 - Iran 0 already![]()
Ah this criticism is part of the wave that brings us to tipping points. Change and progress is rarely linear or even integrally logical. It's often a vague zeitgeist, and that being non ideological finds its voice in many ways.None of of the moaning here will progress anything!
In case you hadn't noticed this is a thread about fans and atmosphere with lots of nonsense posted not human rights
You say it's not a shock that most people in Qatar are enjoying the WC but it's certainly a shock to many in this thread !
Wembley a perfect example of this ! Really screws up the atmosphere as well by having massive gaps in the stands.Ye sad to see those empty seats in a high demand game that is actually sold out
Seen this at other sporting events where sponsor tickets go unused - it's a disgrace really
Exactly.It may seem like the World Cup is a PR disaster from the perspective of the UK and Northern Europe more generally, but in Eastern Europe and Southern Europe the reporting will be very different (even in France, check out what Macron has been saying). That's before you move to South America, Africa, Asia - the assumption that they share our concerns re workers or gay rights is extremely naive.
It's highly likely that the World Cup in the end will project significant soft power as intended by Qatar. And in fact the beer incident and the armband farrago have shown how happy FIFA and the Qataris are to stick their middle finger up to Europe and the US. Much of the world will applaud it.
I was a bit skeptical when I heard that, it was reported initially in the Jerusalem Post which I wouldn’t really trust not to spin it in a certain way. But Middle East Eye which is regularly accused of being sympathetic to Qatar (and rumored to be directly funded by Qatar) is also reporting on it now - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/qatar-world-cup-report-kosher-food-jewish-prayerSo was the story that Qatar banned Jewish prayer fake? If not, how is there not even more outrage. Hard to dsicriminate more blatantly than this.
That's mad. I'd be genuinely flabbergasted if they banned kosher food.I was a bit skeptical when I heard that, it was reported initially in the Jerusalem Post which I wouldn’t really trust not to spin it in a certain way. But Middle East Eye which is regularly accused of being sympathetic to Qatar (and rumored to be directly funded by Qatar) is also reporting on it now - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/qatar-world-cup-report-kosher-food-jewish-prayer
Let’s see what the response from the Qatari authorities is.
Of courseDo you though slevs? Do you have deserts and camels in the Leb?
Isn't kosher pretty much the same as halal?That's mad. I'd be genuinely flabbergasted if they banned kosher food.
I believe that while most if not all Kosher food would be considered Halal, the opposite is not true as there are more regulations concerning the production of Kosher food.Isn't kosher pretty much the same as halal?
First game that felt like the World Cup.The USA/Wales game had a really good atmosphere (the fans from both nations represented well).
YesI believe that while most if not all Kosher food would be considered Halal, the opposite is not true as there are more regulations concerning the production of Kosher food.
That's something I've been wondering about for some time now.Why does the criticism bother you so much?
It's quite unusual. As I said in another post, I've been involved in protest and strikes for almost 3 decades now and I've seen lots of indifference but never this level of pushback and attempts to undermine or discredit.That's something I've been wondering about for some time now.
Anti-West sentiment is strong.It's quite unusual. As I said in another post, I've been involved in protest and strikes for almost 3 decades now and I've seen lots of indifference but never this level of pushback and attempts to undermine or discredit.
Maybe, but lots of pushback from the west too though.Anti-West sentiment is strong.
It seems to get more obvious with every passing big event, too. It's just disgusting how many tickets are given to corporate wankers vs actual fans.Ye sad to see those empty seats in a high demand game that is actually sold out
Seen this at other sporting events where sponsor tickets go unused - it's a disgrace really
@SamidHavn't seen a single hot babe in the stands yet?
It's in the general. That guy can't complain, 10 years on here and still a newbie.
Plenty of people in the West who dislike Western "moral lecturing" or dislike progressive ideas.Maybe, but lots of pushback from the west too though.
So the actual issue is just part of a culture war of sorts?Plenty of people in the West who dislike Western "moral lecturing" or dislike progressive ideas.
I know. You’re doing Gods work. Just bringing it to your attention.It's in the general. That guy can't complain, 10 years on here and still a newbie.
But even that is only strong online, just like the worry about LGBT or migrant workers rights in Qatar (a bunch of famous people and journalists complaining about on Twitter and other social media mostly).Anti-West sentiment is strong.
There's definitely a culture war element to all the pushback IMO.So the actual issue is just part of a culture war of sorts?
That and we might not actually care about it?
What a fecking moron.I wonder if this guy had any problems getting in to the stadium
Not sure I agree, many companies in the West seem to have toned down or avoided association with this World Cup.But even that is only strong online, just like the worry about LGBT or migrant workers rights in Qatar (a bunch of famous people and journalists complaining about on Twitter and other social media mostly).
Social media is really a distortion from reality, cause not even 5% of people use it.
It doesn't matter, most western countries will still do business with Qatar.Not sure I agree, many companies in the West seem to have toned down or avoided association with this World Cup.
I already told you why - because most of it is utter nonsenseAh this criticism is part of the wave that brings us to tipping points. Change and progress is rarely linear or even integrally logical. It's often a vague zeitgeist, and that being non ideological finds its voice in many ways.
Why does the criticism bother you so much?
You'll be a busy man opposing the nonsense on redcafe!I already told you why - because most of it is utter nonsense
And remember what this thread subject is, I'm not refering to anything apart from that here
That dress needed a red cross in the middle.I wonder if this guy had any problems getting in to the stadium
I read Spanish press primarily and the coverage about the World Cup is not particularly positive.It may seem like the World Cup is a PR disaster from the perspective of the UK and Northern Europe more generally, but in Eastern Europe and Southern Europe the reporting will be very different (even in France, check out what Macron has been saying). That's before you move to South America, Africa, Asia - the assumption that they share our concerns re workers or gay rights is extremely naive.