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Foxbatt

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By the way I am going to get banned now most probably by one moderator. This moderator already banned me for a while. To all the guys who I have had debates and discussion have a great day.
 

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By the way I am going to get banned now most probably by one moderator. This moderator already banned me for a while. To all the guys who I have had debates and discussion have a great day.
Sorry buddy, as a Westerner it would be extremely hypocritical of me to critize the caf moderators.
 

calodo2003

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Christ, another 'specious claim of racism / Islamophobia' drive by with absolutely nothing to back it up. Day must end in '-y.'
 

Rhyme Animal

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Some moderators here can't accept any other views apart from theirs. Just like Qatar or any other dictatorial regimes. There is racism and probably islamaphobia here.
There is certainly a double standard here. If the WC can't be held in Qatar because of their human rights situation then most countries should not be able to hold it. Everyone should have their rights. The rights not to be killed while asleep in bed by a drone strike too.
The moderators in here have been very accommodating and allowed A LOT of slack regarding outright anti west xenophobia that began to emerge during the tournament in Qatar.

The atrocities that’ve taken place in the ME are horrifying, and I’ve not read one poster trying to justify them - but certain posters are clearly incapable of not linking that with criticism of the Qatar regime, despite the fact that to a logical mind, they are not connected - the only way they’re linked is that they both involve disgusting displays of power by corrupt, irredeemable regimes against innocent people.

And the same people that called out the atrocities in ME are calling out the atrocities by Qatar regime.

I experienced a lot of racism when I first went to school as a 5 year old (in 80s Britain) instead of learning 1 + 1, I was learning ni**er, black b**tard etc and how to uppercut properly to put someone down quickly. It was, looking back, insane by today’s standards. Does that mean that every time I read an article detailing horrendous knife crime carried out by a black teen I have to start going on about ‘but white people were racist to these kids parents’, or ‘but the EDL are thugs too’? No, because in my eyes, it’s not about race. It’s only about the actions of the individual.

You need to understand that people are not criticising Qatar because they’re Arabic, they’re criticising them because they find the behaviour of that regime disgusting. It’s something that’s been repeated over and over again in here but it’s as if you can’t hear it or can’t process the information.

Regarding Islamophobia, like any of the Abrahamic religions in the modern age - it’s open to criticism, and it will be critiqued, you need to accept that. And if Muslim countries are wanting to host global events that’ve been created by socially progressive nations, it will obviously shine focus upon areas of religious oppression and cruelty.

You and others have gone on and on endlessly about the US since the Qatar WC began, but if the US WC began and suddenly America started applying Mormon rules to the visiting tourists and censoring anything that provoked thought about what they were doing while insisting ‘it’s our culture’, the World would laugh at them and tell them they’ve gone mad.

It would be brutal. And no one would accuse those who were pointing out the madness of being Mormonphobic. We don’t treat religions like that in the West - ANY religions - they’re all fair game. We’re in a post- Religious age ffs!

People can be critical of elements of a religion without hating its adherents.

And people can be critical of oppressive ME regimes without being xenophobes.

Indeed, the criticism of Qatar’s regime is about having empathy for the innocent people they’re treating like shit - aren’t those very people mainly Muslim?

Try and see what’s being said here.

p.s Mods please don’t ban Foxblatt (for this at least).
 
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moses

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I have no idea either, yet.
By the way I am going to get banned now most probably by one moderator. This moderator already banned me for a while. To all the guys who I have had debates and discussion have a great day.
You were temporarily banned for calling me a racist without explanation. You returned and sent a DM calling me a racist. I have no issue identifying myself as the mod in question.

This Israeli style defence mechanism of shouting Islamophobia when a state is accused is ridiculous.

Which reminds me of one of the many negative mod notes on your profile.

This poster is problematic and divisive, and intentionally (or unintentionally, if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt?) parrots misinformation as well certain antisemitic tropes.

The notes don't include your 10 warnings.
 
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moses

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I have no idea either, yet.
Some moderators here can't accept any other views apart from theirs. Just like Qatar or any other dictatorial regimes. There is racism and probably islamaphobia here.
There is certainly a double standard here. If the WC can't be held in Qatar because of their human rights situation then most countries should not be able to hold it. Everyone should have their rights. The rights not to be killed while asleep in bed by a drone strike too.
The irony. I was happy to disagree but you started shouting racism. You got temped for being an idiot who can't debate without insult, not having a different opinion.
 

Cascarino

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I experienced a lot of racism when I first went to school as a 5 year old (in 80s Britain) instead of learning 1 + 1, I was learning ni**er, black b**tard etc and how to uppercut properly to put someone down quickly
that’s heartbreaking:(