Chairman Steve
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So it all ends up sounding like Sean Connery speaking English with a German accent?Danish people speaking English sounds exactly the same as Dutch people speaking English.
So it all ends up sounding like Sean Connery speaking English with a German accent?Danish people speaking English sounds exactly the same as Dutch people speaking English.
Yeah, like I said above, the fan thing is actually...a thing.Just seen some videos of Argentina training in Abu Dhabi. Loads of Indian fans in attendance, decked out in Argentina tops. Surely Qatar aren't paying for those too
Edit: some training match actually
Wow. There must be a Ronaldo/Portugal one somewhere too.Qatar paying Bangladeshis in bangladesh to show interest in the world Cup. Truly dystopian.
No, it's neymar and Brazil for the other side.Wow. There must be a Ronaldo/Portugal one somewhere too.
Yup you're right. Hopefully the football is decent as well, like you said there's a lot of shitshow beyond thatYeah, like I said above, the fan thing is actually...a thing.
If those fans can get some enjoyment out of the general shitshow that is Qatar 2022, then great. It's probably their only chance to experience something like this first hand. So, good for them.
Maybe inauthenticity is a blessing here. It would have been slightly surreal to have a crowd of Indians serenading the England team with “No Surrender” and “10 German Bombers”.
Denmark and The Netherlands aren't tha.....It's really amazing how people from opposite ends of the world can have similar accents.
It's all about Middle Low German (Middelnederduits).Denmark and The Netherlands aren't tha.....
Ah, I'm being mocked, well, feck you sir.
Indians supporting England is fairly expected. India watches Premier League, stands to reason many fans of English players. Back in the day Beckham was huge. Not a surprise at all.They are super fans.
But seriously, this:
seems fair enough to me (and is in line with what is known about that fan culture. It may seem a bit strange to us that they identify so strongly with a national team (rather than a club team), but there you go: that's the culture.
What's a bit surprising to many is that some fans identify as "England fans" rather than fans of English clubs (I suppose they probably have favourite clubs as well, but they clearly think of themselves as England fans).Indians supporting England is fairly expected. India watches Premier League, stands to reason many fans of English players. Back in the day Beckham was huge. Not a surprise at all.
I'm pretty sure that World Cup 2002 held in Japan was actually more accessible for Japanese fans than one in Qatar. This probably applies not only to Japan, but to many other Asian countries. Same can be said about African countries and World Cup 2010 that was held in Africa.
its blindingly obvious that Im not including Japan's own WC in that but note it was TWENTY years ago and this is only the 2nd Asian WC ever and this one is better placed geographically in terms of fan accessThis will be most accessible WC for Japanese? More so than the 2002 that was held in *checks notes* Japan? Not sure about Ghana compared to 2010 either.
You are absolutely right its not a serious football country but then neither was USA in '94. Still that doesnt mean there arent tons of football fans in the country and region so I dont see that as an issue at all.Therein lies the problem. Qatar is basically a nation of very few people and everyone else has been imported for work or other reasons. Therefore Cantona (among many others) was absolutely spot on in saying its not a serious football country, and yet the entire football world is being asked to interrupt their club seasons to participate in this dog and pony show, because Fifa gave the WC to some Gulf state that doesn't have the climate or legitimate fan base to support the biggest football tournament on the planet.
This is definitely what seems most logical. Think when the tournament begins then there will be more groups coming from various locations around the world.Few parts of India like Kerala, Goa and West Bengal has equal number if not more of football fans compared to cricket, and they go crazy during World Cups. Middle East has considerable amount of population from Kerala which is one of well to do groups there. So them supporting Argentina or Brazil is pretty normal
And it will be much more than TWENTY years between the times it has been in proper Europe. Every 20 years in Asia would be a joke, every 60 years would be appropriate.its blindingly obvious that Im not including Japan's own WC in that but note it was TWENTY years ago and this is only the 2nd Asian WC ever and this one is better placed geographically in terms of fan access
You might assume fans of African countries had it easier when the WC was in South Africa but you'd be wrong - for the North Africans Qatar is actually much easier and even for the likes of Ghana travel time is similar
One in every 15 world cups should go to Asia which has half the worlds population?And it will be much more than TWENTY years between the times it has been in proper Europe. Every 20 years in Asia would be a joke, every 60 years would be appropriate.
And how many players in top 1000? Less than 5?One in every 15 world cups should go to Asia which has half the worlds population?
Don’t hold back Massi. Let it all out. 60 years is too often. Ban World Cups outside ‘proper’ Europe. Hold them in the “footballing nations”, the perfect Western democracies with flawless human rights records. Maybe have 1 WC in the US every 50 years so the Germans can make their “haha Americans” jokes. Otherwise, keep football for us, not “them”. Am I right?And it will be much more than TWENTY years between the times it has been in proper Europe. Every 20 years in Asia would be a joke, every 60 years would be appropriate.
Stadiums built on blood.There might be a lot of issues with a World Cup in Qatar, especially if it wasn’t righteously earned. And our regular footballing season got interrupted because of it.
But there are a few positives too that many of you are ignoring.
Yes Qatar is small and probably irrelevant in footballing world. But it’s location gives accessibility to a big population of football fans from Middle East and Indian sub continent. And as a few people pointed out in the thread before the craze for national teams like Argentina, Brazil, , Germany and Portugal is immense. I’m from Kerala a southern state in India and I’ve seen/ heard of fights that happen between Argentinian and Brazil fans that has lead to injuries and hospitalisation more than once. After reading a post from someone who was involved in atleast Brazil fan celebration on Reddit I can say that it was mostly a fan organised event with maybe support from Qatar FA. It was by no means fake fans. And I know many fellow Indians who has bought tickets to watch WC and Infact still searching for more tickets to go.
I’m going to watch my first World Cup with family. This might not have been possible if I wasnt living just an hours flight away from Qatar.
The amount of expacts from Kerala who live in Middle East counts in millions. Add the football fanatics from Goa and other South Indian states, Kolkata and north East Indian states and Bangladesh this will be huge fan base.
Participation will be amazing for Qatar World Cup . The stadiums will be full even for the matches between less popular nations.
Hope it turns out to be a wonderful World Cup atleast for the sake of fans who wants to be a part of it.
My guess is on minor sports like Tennis, Horse races and Boules. Perhaps Qatari Ninja Warrior (men's edition) is an option too. Also, why not host FIFA meetings there; Gianni's living nearby, so...My genuine question is what happened to these stadiums AFTER the World Cup? Qatar barely have any futebol players let alone any clubs and even if they do have a league it is borderline amateur level so I doubt they would even fill out 5% of those stadiums. Seems like a huge waste of money. I doubt many even knew they had a national team.
Most being dismantled and repurposed - the info is available onlineMy genuine question is what happened to these stadiums AFTER the World Cup? Qatar barely have any futebol players let alone any clubs and even if they do have a league it is borderline amateur level so I doubt they would even fill out 5% of those stadiums. Seems like a huge waste of money. I doubt many even knew they had a national team.
The bigger disgrace is that you don't get one at all at the stadiums.
I'm more arsed about the human rights atrocities myself but crack on
My genuine question is what happened to these stadiums AFTER the World Cup? Qatar barely have any futebol players let alone any clubs and even if they do have a league it is borderline amateur level so I doubt they would even fill out 5% of those stadiums. Seems like a huge waste of money. I doubt many even knew they had a national team.
Can't do crack there either I'm afraid.I'm more arsed about the human rights atrocities myself but crack on
Wow so that makes all the deaths even worse. Disgusting WC.Most being dismantled and repurposed - the info is available online
Ricky Martin's was also ace in its timeNo offense but the current WC theme song is the worst in the past 20 years.
The best one is the one where Shakira sings it.
Not to take the situation very lightly, almost all the high rises in middle is like that. Look at the tallest towers, the big oil and gas project construction phases etc. and this is not down Qatar FA or govt alone but the construction companies owned by expats the supervisors, hsse standards etc. this is from my last few years living in Middle East.Stadiums built on blood.
Good post. The whole "fake fan" none sense is pretty annoying to see but I am not surprised. Just another case of folks in the west (in this case football nations) not understanding fan culture in the east.There might be a lot of issues with a World Cup in Qatar, especially if it wasn’t righteously earned. And our regular footballing season got interrupted because of it.
But there are a few positives too that many of you are ignoring.
Yes Qatar is small and probably irrelevant in footballing world. But it’s location gives accessibility to a big population of football fans from Middle East and Indian sub continent. And as a few people pointed out in the thread before the craze for national teams like Argentina, Brazil, , Germany and Portugal is immense. I’m from Kerala a southern state in India and I’ve seen/ heard of fights that happen between Argentinian and Brazil fans that has lead to injuries and hospitalisation more than once. After reading a post from someone who was involved in atleast Brazil fan celebration on Reddit I can say that it was mostly a fan organised event with maybe support from Qatar FA. It was by no means fake fans. And I know many fellow Indians who has bought tickets to watch WC and Infact still searching for more tickets to go.
I’m going to watch my first World Cup with family. This might not have been possible if I wasnt living just an hours flight away from Qatar.
The amount of expacts from Kerala who live in Middle East counts in millions. Add the football fanatics from Goa and other South Indian states, Kolkata and north East Indian states and Bangladesh this will be huge fan base.
Participation will be amazing for Qatar World Cup . The stadiums will be full even for the matches between less popular nations.
Hope it turns out to be a wonderful World Cup atleast for the sake of fans who wants to be a part of it.
Yeah got to laugh at posts like that. Says more about @SportingCP96 's ignorance than anything else.Champions of Asia, and “many didn’t know” they had a national team? That says more about the “many” than Qatar.