Quarter Final 3: England vs Norway at Hard Rock Stadium Miami at 10 PM BST, Saturday 11 July

A feels like temperature of 44 degrees is obscene. Surely it's not safe to play in those conditions?
 
Hoping for a Norway win this time. As a black British man, I'll even root for Argentina once (inevitably) England progress.

Aside from just loathing Three Lions football fan culture...

Rice shouldn't be playing for England. And it's shocking that the 'home of football' is incapable of creating one manager that can actually with their domestic league in more than 30 years, and has to buy in a manager yet again.

Unfortunately, England are actually good. And, as has been the case for the last three or four tournaments, they don't play anyone they shouldn't beat (man-for-man) until at least the semi-finals.

Tomorrow, I reckon:
An England win on pens
Or 2-1 England, with a Haaland goal in between the two England ones, and a period immediately after Haaland's equaliser where Norway knock on the door. The turning point being Norway having their 'Wissa' moment. Probably Odegaard putting a big chance wide.
Literally no one cares.

Imagine thinking that saying you're British but not supporting England makes you interesting.
 
Hoping for a Norway win this time. As a black British man, I'll even root for Argentina once (inevitably) England progress.

Aside from just loathing Three Lions football fan culture...

Rice shouldn't be playing for England. And it's shocking that the 'home of football' is incapable of creating one manager that can actually with their domestic league in more than 30 years, and has to buy in a manager yet again.

Unfortunately, England are actually good. And, as has been the case for the last three or four tournaments, they don't play anyone they shouldn't beat (man-for-man) until at least the semi-finals.

Tomorrow, I reckon:
An England win on pens
Or 2-1 England, with a Haaland goal in between the two England ones, and a period immediately after Haaland's equaliser where Norway knock on the door. The turning point being Norway having their 'Wissa' moment. Probably Odegaard putting a big chance wide.
Is this some sort of joke
 
Little heat !!! 43 and 75% humidity, well it’s not ideal is it , you try running round in it !!! 43°C with 75% humidity, this creates a staggering "feels like" temperature of 64°C (147°F), which represents extreme danger for heat stroke. ( according to Google )
Except it's not 43c, you can google that too
 
Hoping for a Norway win this time. As a black British man, I'll even root for Argentina once (inevitably) England progress.

Aside from just loathing Three Lions football fan culture...

Rice shouldn't be playing for England. And it's shocking that the 'home of football' is incapable of creating one manager that can actually with their domestic league in more than 30 years, and has to buy in a manager yet again.

Unfortunately, England are actually good. And, as has been the case for the last three or four tournaments, they don't play anyone they shouldn't beat (man-for-man) until at least the semi-finals.

Tomorrow, I reckon:
An England win on pens
Or 2-1 England, with a Haaland goal in between the two England ones, and a period immediately after Haaland's equaliser where Norway knock on the door. The turning point being Norway having their 'Wissa' moment. Probably Odegaard putting a big chance wide.
Why shouldn't Rice be playing for England?
 
Florida averages 7 deaths from lightning a year. They have to clear the stadiums if lightning is in the area because, in Florida, it can sound like you are in a war zone when lightning and thunder is close.
It's no joke.

Edit: just checked and it doesn't look like rain will be an issue, just extreme heat with a 108°/42.2 heat index.
 
Considering they literally had a whole continent to choose from, couldn’t they have picked a more hospitable place than Miami for one of the QFs? Like Vancouver is a very comfortable 15 degrees right now, perfect for a match between two Northern European teams.
 
How do they handle other sporting events?
NFL football is the only sport played outdoors in Florida at the professional level and that is in the Fall and Winter with less heat and less chance of storms (though it still happens because it's still hot in South Florida in December). They just delay games until the storms pass since they are usually fast moving and short. If you go to Disney in the Summer, you can expect an afternoon storm that lasts for an hour then goes away.
 
Considering they literally had a whole continent to choose from, couldn’t they have picked a more hospitable place than Miami for one of the QFs? Like Vancouver is a very comfortable 15 degrees right now, perfect for a match between two Northern European teams.
Its mind boggling. I can only think they wanted it there for the South Florida vibe for events around the WC and not the game. The Miami stadium isn't even in the top 10 or 15 if best NFL stadiums either.

I will also add that FIFA required cities to pony up $150,000,000 from the hosting cites as well, which is why Minneapolis dropped out (they have an amazing new draft that would have been perfect).
 
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If and when the US hosts the WC again, they should the climate controlled domes from the QFs onwards.
 
Hoping for a Norway win this time. As a black British man, I'll even root for Argentina once (inevitably) England progress.

Aside from just loathing Three Lions football fan culture...

You mention you're black and give that as a reason that you'll root for Argentina. What's your thought process there?
 
Jeez, will people ever stop going on about the conditions.

"Location: India"

30 degrees and high humidity is no big deal for you. But for us Northern Europeans it's hell on earth. And most of these players are used to playing when it's between 0 and 25 degrees with medium/low humidity. Of course the conditions matter. Especially when it comes to heat.

I'd much rather play in minus 10 degrees than plus 25 (or above).
 
You mention you're black and give that as a reason that you'll root for Argentina. What's your thought process there?
His use if "even" clarifies that he is not rooting for Argentina because he is black but (and I am inferring now) that Argentina's historic abuse if black people and continued racism issues isn't a deal breaker when they play England.
 
"Location: India"

30 degrees and high humidity is no big deal for you. But for us Northern Europeans it's hell on earth. And most of these players are used to playing when it's between 0 and 25 degrees with medium/low humidity. Of course the conditions matter. Especially when it comes to heat.

I'd much rather play in minus 10 degrees than plus 25 (or above).
Well it's the "World" Cup and not the Nothern European Cup so it's just part of the challenge rather than something spectacular and absurd.
 
Well it's the "World" Cup and not the Nothern European Cup so it's just part of the challenge rather than something spectacular and absurd.
No human on earth can play 90 minutes of football in conditions feeling like 40+ degrees, doesn't matter where they come from. It'll be a farce of a match where players will have to play within themselves just to last
 
Hoping for a Norway win this time. As a black British man, I'll even root for Argentina once (inevitably) England progress.

Aside from just loathing Three Lions football fan culture...

Rice shouldn't be playing for England. And it's shocking that the 'home of football' is incapable of creating one manager that can actually with their domestic league in more than 30 years, and has to buy in a manager yet again.

Unfortunately, England are actually good. And, as has been the case for the last three or four tournaments, they don't play anyone they shouldn't beat (man-for-man) until at least the semi-finals.

Tomorrow, I reckon:
An England win on pens
Or 2-1 England, with a Haaland goal in between the two England ones, and a period immediately after Haaland's equaliser where Norway knock on the door. The turning point being Norway having their 'Wissa' moment. Probably Odegaard putting a big chance wide.

Yawn. What an embarrassing post. Supporting Argentina after declaring to be a black British man takes some real mental gymnastics. Do you know much about the history of Argentina?
 
His use if "even" clarifies that he is not rooting for Argentina because he is black but (and I am inferring now) that Argentina's historic abuse if black people and continued racism issues isn't a deal breaker when they play England.

Yeah okay. I'll wait and see what he says then. I'd struggle to root for their players tbh after that bus "song"
 
I’ve never been to Miami but according to the weather app the temp + humidity (31, 65-70%, cloudy) there is pretty close to where I am now (Valencia).

Honestly, it’s not so bad. You’re making a way bigger deal of this than it is.
 
Yawn. What an embarrassing post. Supporting Argentina after declaring to be a black British man takes some real mental gymnastics. Do you know much about the history of Argentina?
Maybe hold off on the judgement of embarrassing until you get the context. Neither country is without it's dark past and uncomfortable present. But we'd do well to focus on the football rather that a game of racism top trumps?
 
It's not a little bit of heat though is it smart arse? It's also humidity. High risks of heat stroke. Also chances of lightning if storms develop, which can happen frequently and quickly in Miami.
They’re footballers, I have a feeling they’re going to be okay. Just a hunch.
 
Maybe hold off on the judgement of embarrassing until you get the context. Neither country is without it's dark past and uncomfortable present. But we'd do well to focus on the football rather that a game of racism top trumps?

What context is it that I don’t get? And I’m not sure what racism you are talking about either, I wasn’t the one who raised the totally irrelevant topic of race.
 
Little heat !!! 43 and 75% humidity, well it’s not ideal is it , you try running round in it !!! 43°C with 75% humidity, this creates a staggering "feels like" temperature of 64°C (147°F), which represents extreme danger for heat stroke. ( according to Google )
I’m willing to bet none of the players will end up getting heat stroke.
 
What context is it that I don’t get? And I’m not sure what racism you are talking about either, I wasn’t the one who raised the totally irrelevant topic of race.
The context is his personal perspective.

I never said you brought it up.
 
Hoping for a Norway win this time. As a black British man, I'll even root for Argentina once (inevitably) England progress.

Aside from just loathing Three Lions football fan culture...

Rice shouldn't be playing for England. And it's shocking that the 'home of football' is incapable of creating one manager that can actually with their domestic league in more than 30 years, and has to buy in a manager yet again.

Unfortunately, England are actually good. And, as has been the case for the last three or four tournaments, they don't play anyone they shouldn't beat (man-for-man) until at least the semi-finals.

Tomorrow, I reckon:
An England win on pens
Or 2-1 England, with a Haaland goal in between the two England ones, and a period immediately after Haaland's equaliser where Norway knock on the door. The turning point being Norway having their 'Wissa' moment. Probably Odegaard putting a big chance wide.
You are entitled to your views. I remember living in the UK at the time of the 1986 WC Argentina England. I rooted badly for Argentina to win at the time. Growing up as a brown foreigner in England from the age of 12 - I experienced a lot of racism at the time. However, times have changed significantly. I left UK 25 years ago and when I come back frequently to visit my mom and family, I hardly feel any racism - progress has been made. I now support England and it really feels like home when I go to visit. Interestingly enough, I experienced more politics and racism of sorts trying to enter Argentina recently / in fact we were refused entry and deported! So just wanted to offer you another perspective based on my own experiences.
 
Can't see Norway's defence being able to deal with Kane & Co, and sadly predict England to win 3 or 4-1.

Also think England will go to the final, but lets see how they cope when there.
 
England have been exceptionally fortunate with conditions so far. Double edge sword though. Norway will be more acclimatised to the conditions, but their longer exposure will have negative impact on them, whereas England are the least used to playing in the heat, which could be a issue, but favourable conditions until tonight could mean there’s less fatigue built up
 
I’m fecking stoked!

Good luck to all you English peeps around here tonight, but not really! If you beat us, I’ll sulk tomorrow and then go back to my usual tournament routine of cheering for it to come home.

But tonight: Ro!
 
Very quiet in here. Are ye all trying to stay occupied until closer to the game?