Liam147
On Probation
To keep the QT talk separate from the Westminster stuff.
So, Owen Jones and Iain Duncan-Smith, eh.
So, Owen Jones and Iain Duncan-Smith, eh.
Spot on.Owen Jones was excellent I thought, Duncan Smith was his usual vile smarmy Tory scum self, his outburst at the end was pathetic, he clearly just didn't want to here the names of people who died after his policy said they were fit to work.
He's way ahead of you Al: OMG HE LOOKS 12 DOES HIS MUM KNOW HE'S UP THIS LATE WHY ISN'T HE DOING HIS PAPER ROUND << just anticipating the tweets laterWhat a surprise Jones went down well on the Caf. He's just an overgrown student who hasn't grown out of extreme leftness yet.
Maybe you can do a better job defending ATOS than IDS did.What a surprise Jones went down well on the Caf. He's just an overgrown student who hasn't grown out of extreme leftness yet.
Nah, I'm not sure how well it works as a policy, but it's ludicrous to say it is killing 50 people a week or whatever the Caf is claiming.Maybe you can do a better job defending ATOS than IDS did.
FTSE directors give themselves pay rises of 27% while the government hammers the worst off. It's a fecking joke.Nah, I'm not sure how well it works as a policy, but it's ludicrous to say it is killing 50 people a week or whatever the Caf is claiming.
There have been some great claims on the Caf but I'd like to see the facts to back that one up.Nah, I'm not sure how well it works as a policy, but it's ludicrous to say it is killing 50 people a week or whatever the Caf is claiming.
What's the government meant to do, tell the big companies to stop paying their employees so well?FTSE directors give themselves pay rises of 27% while the government hammers the worst off. It's a fecking joke.
Totally out of her depth.Deborah Meaden was way out of her depth. Owen was very good especially is take on Israel and the Housing benefit system.
The government is not hammering the worst off. You can blame Labour for destroying any kind of aspiration in this country among the poor.FTSE directors give themselves pay rises of 27% while the government hammers the worst off. It's a fecking joke.
Which of course IDS didn't do by saying "We've heard a lot from you" and repeatedly talking over Owen's points.they consistently let themselves down through their endless moralising and talking down to people as if they just don't understand what it's like to be someone else with a different opinion.
Ditto. Attention seeking pricks indeed,Stopped watching it ages ago. Got sick of all the attention seeking pricks in the audience making 'humorous' comments and vitriolic statements with little substance, followed by mindless cheers.
There's a difference between being patronising and moralising.Which of course IDS didn't do by saying "We've heard a lot from you" and repeatedly talking over Owen's points.
So what about his comments that Owen didn't care about the disabled when Labour were in power (completely unfounded) and that he and the current government were making disabled people's lives better?There's a difference between being patronising and moralising.
I'm not saying I'm completely on the side of IDS, but more that Owen Jones was incredibly unfair in his criticism.So what about his comments that Owen didn't care about the disabled when Labour were in power (completely unfounded) and that he and the current government were making disabled people's lives better?
Funny that, "consistently letting themselves down through their endless moralising and talking down to people as if they just don't understand what it's like to be someone else with a different opinion" was an issue for the left a few replies ago.I'm not saying I'm completely on the side of IDS, but more that Owen Jones was incredibly unfair in his criticism.
Extreme elements of either side are annoying. The left, in my view, moralise more than the right though. Just read the threads on the Caf - 'I vote left because I believe in fairness and justice etc.' It's bollocks.Alastair, I don't think it's fair to equate your observation there to the left or the right specifically. The right can be equally dismissive of views that aren't their own.
As far as I can tell, wasn't he just stating the obvious on Israel?Deborah Meaden was way out of her depth. Owen was very good especially is take on Israel and the Housing benefit system.
In fairness, when I actually saw him on QT, he did look about 17.He's way ahead of you Al: OMG HE LOOKS 12 DOES HIS MUM KNOW HE'S UP THIS LATE WHY ISN'T HE DOING HIS PAPER ROUND << just anticipating the tweets later
You wouldn't be looking down on people who hold different opinions to your own there, would you?Just read the threads on the Caf - 'I vote left because I believe in fairness and justice etc.' It's bollocks.
And that video with Jones is hilarious. What a weapon.
Blinded by his politics.
Not at all. You can tell me that you vote differently to me or whatever, but I hate people telling me that they're left because they believe in helping the poor etc. You don't have to be a socialist to not want to kill disabled people, but that's somewhat lost on the Caf.You wouldn't be looking down on people who hold different opinions to your own there, would you?
Glad to hear that killing them isn't on the agenda even if taking money off them is.You don't have to be a socialist to not want to kill disabled people, but that's somewhat lost on the Caf.
...and whoever is in charge of Tory PR.You don't have to be a socialist to not want to kill disabled people, but that's somewhat lost on the Caf.
Out of interest, what are the acceptable reasons for being 'left'?Not at all. You can tell me that you vote differently to me or whatever, but I hate people telling me that they're left because they believe in helping the poor etc. You don't have to be a socialist to not want to kill disabled people, but that's somewhat lost on the Caf.
Yeah, if you need to add sound effects to political debate you probably shouldn't bother.*Parental advisory for Owen Jones fans*
Blinded by his politics.