buckooo1978
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heartwarming tribute to Aretha Franklin from Mourinho - not sure how people have missed this
Thats not how life or sports works in my opinion and fans getting pent up over history and press narratives doesn't help. Doesn't he always win the title 2nd time? Doesnt ibrahimovich win the title everywhere he goes? These things are mildly amusing side points.Only problem is there's that thing called the Mourinho 3rd season syndrome yknow? It's happened before and it's happening again.
Too simplified a take on things. Not saying i agree with the initial poster but there are many many reasons why we could spend 430m and not be able to compete.Let's get Pochettino then if he can get better players on a fraction of our budget. If Spurs still have a better squad then that is monumental failure on Mourinho's part after spending 430m.
He said lots of positive things about the players, fans and unity. Did you not see or read that or are you choosing to ignore?Yet again, he defends HIMSELF and not the club.
I know he's human and all, but it is beyond irritating.
Did they poison him at Madrid? It's honestly incredible how much of a changed man he is since then. Barely looks like he enjoys football since then.
The siege mentality is now him vs everyone else. And not the club + himself vs everyone else.
He should take a sabbatical honestly.
No. It's the CLUB's failure.Let's get Pochettino then if he can get better players on a fraction of our budget. If Spurs still have a better squad then that is monumental failure on Mourinho's part after spending 430m.
Competing is one thing, having an inferior squad to Spurs is quite another.Too simplified a take on things. Not saying i agree with the initial poster but there are many many reasons why we could spend 430m and not be able to compete.
Way ahead of you broheartwarming tribute to Aretha Franklin from Mourinho - not sure how people have missed this
"R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me", proper Aretha tribute
There isn't only one problem but Mourinho is a massive part of the problem. He hasn't spent well, he's not coaching the team well and we still have no discernible style or identity in his third season.No. It's the CLUB's failure.
Finger pointing and playing a blame game is pointless.
Everyone needs to own their own shit.
It's as clear as day that there's a disconnect between the people that run the business side of the club, and those that are supposed to run the football side of the club.
Acknowledging that is healthy. Pretending that there is only one problem at the club is ridiculous.
Me neither. But in any case spurs have been slowly building a good squad, lost walker for example and replaced with trippier. In these years that spurs have been developing with what looks like a direction weve had woodward making it up as he goes along. Di maria falcao depay schweinsteiger then saying no to other targetsCompeting is one thing, having an inferior squad to Spurs is quite another.
I don't think we do though.
Spurs have better players. It's close. But they do.Competing is one thing, having an inferior squad to Spurs is quite another.
I don't think we do though.
To be fair, Roman sacked every coach so far, he is a serial sacker.He's been sacked more times than all of the others put together as well probably.
Then it's not that their players are more talented, have more ability etc. but that they are performing better. Not being able to get the best out of players have been a theme for a while now.Spurs have better players. It's close. But they do.
If for no other reason than they have consistent players.
It's a hugely controversial suggestion but I believe that Bailly and Lindelof are as good as Sanchez. Their performances are worlds apart. The same rings true for Rose-Shaw, Son-Martial, Alli-Sanchez, as well as some less obvious round-peg square-hole comparisons you could trot out.
That's the crap I fault Jose for. But it's not a simple problem.
You are allowed to pass the ball backwards and sometimes it's the ball to play. It isn't basketball. To call it outdated just because we sometimes took the safest option and played a ball backwards as opposed to losing it in a dangerous area is ridiculous.We were still passing the ball backwards when we were 2-0 down ffs. His football is outdated, time to move on.
We’re beneath anybody at the moment. Absolute circus.Yeah. Manchester United doesn't deserve Mourinho. We're beneath him and his greatness. FFS
TrippierThen it's not that their players are more talented, have more ability etc. but that they are performing better. Not being able to get the best out of players have been a theme for a while now.
No I am not calling what we done last night as outdated, mate. I am travelling back and forward to all home games, and I can see that we have regressed as a football team. Playing the Mourinho way is outdated, same as LVG was. If you cannot see this you are not seeing what most of the fans are seeing when or if you go to games.You are allowed to pass the ball backwards and sometimes it's the ball to play. It isn't basketball. To call it outdated just because we sometimes took the safest option and played a ball backwards as opposed to losing it in a dangerous area is ridiculous.
No we're obviously not.We’re beneath anybody at the moment. Absolute circus.
The club has been so poorly ran over the last 6/7yrs a chimp could have done a better job
Good post as very true apart from Dembele perhaps and their tier two players are much better than our ones also -Rojo Darmain Lindelof Jones Lingard Herrera Mata none would get near a regular start for spurs.Trippier
Alderweireld
Vertongen
Dembele
Alli
Eriksen
Kane
All 7 WALK into our side.
I'm highlighting areas that Jose is at fault for. Everyone knows that Spurs have plenty of great players.
Their squad is shallower. But their first 11 rivals City's and is better than Liverpools.
Wanyama, Son, Sanchez and Aurier would probably walk into our side too... and Moura on yesterdays performance.Trippier
Alderweireld
Vertongen
Dembele
Alli
Eriksen
Kane
All 7 WALK into our side.
I'm highlighting areas that Jose is at fault for. Everyone knows that Spurs have plenty of great players.
Their squad is shallower. But their first 11 rivals City's and is better than Liverpools.
Dembele (in principle) is far better than Matic or Fred, whichever role you ask him to play. His hip makes me completely wrong. But he's the better player.Good post as very true apart from Dembele perhaps and their tier two players are much better than our ones also -Rojo Darmain Lindelof Jones Lingard Herrera Mata none would get near a regular start for spurs.
What I didn’t do as a manager all my life was look back at things we’d achieved. I never did that, ever, because I didn’t think it was important. I always thought tomorrow was the most important day. That way there was always a challenge for myself. Win something – it didn’t matter, it was gone. Are we going to win something again? That was my attitude as a football manager.
I disagree. That's wandering into hyperbole.Wanyama, Son, Sanchez and Aurier would probably walk into our side too... and Moura on yesterdays performance.
Sanchez is currently better then all our CB's apart from maybe Smalling? maybe... Aurier is a better RB then Valencia, Son is a cracking winger who has shown way more in 2018 then Sanchez has for us... and Wanyama could give Matic a run for his money.I disagree. That's wandering into hyperbole.
We have better players than those 4.
Moura I would concede. Because : Obvipus reasons.
If those players were at United they wouldn't look at good as they are at Spurs, thats the fact you are missing out.Sanchez is currently better then all our CB's apart from maybe Smalling? maybe... Aurier is a better RB then Valencia, Son is a cracking winger who has shown way more in 2018 then Sanchez has for us... and Wanyama could give Matic a run for his money.
Probably, but all we can go on is current level they are showing... and at their current level, they would.If those players were at United they wouldn't look at good as they are at Spurs, thats the fact you are missing out.
You're going over the top. Also not taking into account system, manager and what way the wind is blowing.Sanchez is currently better then all our CB's apart from maybe Smalling? maybe... Aurier is a better RB then Valencia, Son is a cracking winger who has shown way more in 2018 then Sanchez has for us... and Wanyama could give Matic a run for his money.
very funny, man Serial sacker.To be fair, Roman sacked every coach so far, he is a serial sacker.
They would walk into our team because Pochettino is getting a lot more out of them than Mourinho is getting out of our players. I firmly believe Mourinho would get these same players performing like garbage and people would be saying the likes of Pogba, Sanchez, Matic, etc would walk into our team.Trippier
Alderweireld
Vertongen
Dembele
Alli
Eriksen
Kane
All 7 WALK into our side.
I'm highlighting areas that Jose is at fault for. Everyone knows that Spurs have plenty of great players.
Their squad is shallower. But their first 11 rivals City's and is better than Liverpools.
I don't think so. Pogba, Sanchez, De Gea, that's it. Martial too actually. Give Spurs those three and a half players and they run City close.They would walk into our team because Pochettino is getting a lot more out of them than Mourinho is getting out of our players. I firmly believe Mourinho would get these same players performing like garbage and people would be saying the likes of Pogba, Sanchez, Matic, etc would walk into our team.
Isn't that exactly my point? Give Spurs those players and Pochettino would get more out of them than Mourinho. The club does have issues but our biggest issue is that our manager is not doing a good job with the players available to him.I don't think so. Pogba, Sanchez, De Gea, that's it. Martial too actually. Give Spurs those three and a half players and they run City close.
The club has issues.