Rafa Benitez | Sacked (Fachts)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
But that is a step up.
I guess Rafa had to make a step down. His Spell in Italy was a disaster. Spent a load of money yet was miles behind Juventus. In his last season he couldn't even get them into the champions league places.
They are going down.
Stolen from YNFA but Rafa does have some intresting sock choices
Cartman?
Stolen from YNFA but Rafa does have some intresting sock choices
No, that's Rafael Benitez, former Liverpool manager. Resemblance is strong though, I agree.
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All he did was submit a picture of Benitez, how did he win?
The whole club is a train wreck. I'm guessing Rafa is gone in a month's time.
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He plays Daryl Janmaat. For me, that's a sackable offence in itself.
80k p/w in he the championship would kill them. If they haven't included that clause in his contract, you wonder how many others don't have it?
Neymar gets double that amount every time he's in a match day squad btw. If he starts it's even more.
Neymar gets double that amount every time he's in a match day squad btw. If he starts it's even more.
Shelvey cannot be on 80k per week ffs.
Answered your own question....NUFC did not pay a €8.5m signing on fee nor do they pay bonuses in line with what Barca will be paying. He's 24 and an England international and not a bad player so £80k a week seems par for the course.After details of Neymar's Barcelona contract were leaked yesterday, football fans were a little surprised to see that the Brazil captain 'only' earned £77,000 per week. Well a little surprise is set to turn into a rather big shock after it was revealed that JONJO SHELVEY earns more per week than the Barcelona forward.
No, this isn't some weird, delayed April Fools prank. Shelvey, he of Liverpool, Swansea and Newcastle United fame with a handful of England caps to his name, currently pockets £80,000 every week at St. James' Park and, according to The Telegraph, the Magpies didn't negotiate a pay cut for the midfielder should they be relegated to the Championship.
That's right, from next season, a Championship midfielder could be earning £3,000 a week more than the La Liga and Champions League winning Brazil captain, who finished third in the Ballon d'Or voting last year.
Of course, Neymar's Barcelona contract comes complete with a set of handsome bonuses and he also received a whopping 8.5m euro signing on fee when he arrived at Camp Nou. Still, we're not sure in what world it makes sense that Shelvey, as talented a midfielder as he is, is on a bigger weekly contract than one of the finest players in the world.
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I didn't ask anything. My post starts at the green smiley, just forgot to add the quote tag on the article.
I'm sure there are worse players than Shelvey earning more than £77k a week.
I see. That's why we have a quote facility. My apologies for thinking that was all your own work. I presume the bolded part of your original post is your work...maybe having thought about it you're not now as surprised or shocked.
I've added the quote tag to avoid further confusion.It's surprising that Benitez has failed to motivate Newcastle. I really thought that he would usher them into safety, they've somehow gotten even worse.
Fellaini earns over 100k.
Well, he's paid over £100k.
good point
Why, when was the last time he left a club doing better than when he took over? I don't understand how he still gets jobs. Someone needs to take a closer look at his CV since leaving Liverpool, rather than just glancing at the highlights. When you are in the bottom 3 of the league, the one direction you can't afford to go in backwards, so employing a coach who took his last 4 clubs backwards in the a season or less, is about as stupid a move as possible. People need to look past the CL or UEFA cup wins. It's not relevant when you are trying to stay in the Prem. Even at Liverpool they went backwards in his first Prem season and when he left they were lower in the league when he started. But ultimately the Newcastle job was all about turning things around quickly, so employing a coach with a proven track record of being unable to do that is a really bad idea. He's had plum jobs and failed to make an impact, so what on earth do people expect him to do at Newcastle?
Chelsea was much better when he managed them.
No that's a myth. Their PPG was better under Di Matteo that season and there were already in 3rd when he took over. Some people try and respond to that by saying they were on a poor run when Di Matteo got fired, but ignore the fact Rafa had equally poor runs during the season, only without being fired. Benitez only salvaged things by winning 6 of his last 8 league games, which isn't any different to Di matteo winning 7 of his first 8 that season. People have totally forgotten they were in first place and then went 4 games without a win, dropping to 3rd when Di matteo got fired. Rafa never improved them. They had a slightly lower PPG. The only way to claim he saved them is to claim that Chelsea were a free fall, but as I pointed out, the reality if they'd only gone 4 games without a win and prior to that were on a rum of form that Rafa wasn't ever able to replicate, even when finishing the season strongly. But I bet Mike Ashley and the Newcastle board are totally unaware of that. They just know he won the UEFA Cup, possibly forgetting they are at the time defending CL champs and FA Cup holders, so a bit of a step down.
At the end of the day, if you are in the relegation zone, hiring a coach whose best league achievement in 7 years is doing slightly less well the Roberto Di Matteo aint a great plan. But for some reason when hiring a football coach, it seems that reputation is what counts and what that reputation was built on doesn't seem to matter. The fact Rafa has no real relegation scrap experience and takes most clubs backwards in the league, was trumped by the fact he'd won multiple trophies. Yet Newcastle were in a relegation scrap, not the 1/4 finals of a cup competition.
Perhaps an indication of whether he did well or is whether each club improved upon his departure. Liverpool became even worse, as did Inter Milan. Both clubs have/had deep rooted problems within the hierarchy of the club, which compromised their chances of success more than any manager could.
He finished 3rd with Chelsea with a Europa League. As an interim coach, his objective was to stabilize the club and ensure CL football - which he did. They proceeded to then finish in the exact same league position the year after with Mourinho, suggesting that Benitez' performance was pretty solid.
At Napoli, he won the Coppa Italia in his first season and finished 3rd. It was pretty improbable that Napoli would be able to break the stranglehold that Juventus have on Serie A, but again - Benitez brought silverware to the club. He was fairly popular with Napoli fans at this stage.
His second season didn't go as well and they lost out on CL football. They've improved since and currently sit second in Serie A.
He left Real four points behind Atletico Madrid, who were leaders at the time. They'd also cruised through the CL group stages. Four months later, they sit in the same position - suggesting that he had Madrid performing on par with where they should be.
Contrary to your claims, I'd say his record suggests that he's a very solid manager. Just unfortunate that he's become a bit of a parody to the general footballing contemporary.
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I agree with most of what you say -- I would be a little harsher with Inter -- but the Real paragraph is misleading. Just look at the differences in the clasico performances to know that the team has changed for the better (under a complete and utter novice manager)
If Real Madrid win the Champions League, would Rafa get a CL winners medal?
Would be funny if by the time he gets it, he is the manager of a Championship team
Would surely be the first time ever a manager gets a Champions League winners medal a week after being relegated?!
Would be funny if by the time he gets it, he is the manager of a Championship team
Would surely be the first time ever a manager gets a Champions League winners medal a week after being relegated?!
Saw their game against the Saints. A complete disgrace.
Rafa is a good manager. He's a parody only amongst United fans(understandably) and Chelsea fans (he embarrased them many times in the cups with a far cheaper team).
Rafa's expertise lies in one-off games & cup competitions. When you look at the sides he's managed since he left us, can you honestly say he's left a stronger squad than any of the ones he inherited ? Since winning 2 La Liga titles with Valencia he's only ever been involved in one title race, & that was with us 7 years ago.
I love the guy to bits, but I've never been one of those banging the drum for him to come back to Anfield, for the simple reason is that he wouldn't have the man - Steven Gerrard - to help pull him, & the team, out of the mire, as he did on so many occasions.
Rafa was the right man, at the right place, at the right time.
Most Newcastle fans I know currently think he's an utter fraud, too.
In fact, I'm not sure there's anyone outside of Liverpool that particularly rates him.
Benitez isn't as bad as a lot of Utd fans make him out to be and he's also not as good as a lot of Liverpool fans make him out to be.
He's a good cup manager who is past his best. I thought it was an odd move by Newcastle when they hired him, he's totally out of his element in a relegation fight.
He's a good cup manager who is past his best. I thought it was an odd move by Newcastle when they hired him, he's totally out of his element in a relegation fight.