Just picturing him on the team bus like an excited child, getting all giddy at the sight of the golden archesit's impossible to hate him.
Rafael da Silva on Anderson, Moyes and United
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Don’t agree. Any manager coming in after Fergie would have failed. Pretending to be Sir Alex would have just made things worse. Any manager taking on the role would of had a huge job in making that team compete. Aging veterans, average younger players coming through with the amateur Woodward trying to get signings in. All elite manager knew it was the impossible job and that’s why no one took it on.
I speak under correction, but there were things confirmed by both Pep and Klopp - that they were approached by SAF to take over but Pep had already agreed to join Bayern and Klopp wanted to stay at Dortmund. There were also rumors about Jose & Ancelotti being on the list. But yeah. Could mostly have been face saving exercises
Loved Rafael man, shame he got binned the way he did under van Gaal. The McDonald's, McDonald's bit though
"Jump up impulsively". Fecking hell, Ando. 
Yep, Ancelotti said just last year:I speak under correction, but there were things confirmed by both Pep and Klopp - that they were approached by SAF to take over but Pep had already agreed to join Bayern and Klopp wanted to stay at Dortmund. There were also rumors about Jose & Ancelotti being on the list. But yeah. Could mostly have been face saving exercises
The little boy inside me screamed 'McDonald’s McDonald’s!'
I can't imagine even Anderson getting away with screaming for McDonald's on the team bus with Fergie, Giggs, Scholes, Rooney and Rio in there.
Anderson's personality which we loved was also his biggest enemy.
Probably right about Moyes.
Will never forget the day he sat in front of the media and had the audacity to say we should be more like Manchester City.
Will never forget the day he sat in front of the media and had the audacity to say we should be more like Manchester City.
"Jump up impulsively". Fecking hell, Ando.
To be fair the club missed a trick, they should have put in a bus turning around a McDo for 5 hours everyday."Jump up impulsively". Fecking hell, Ando.
Fergie loved him.
One of my favourite players back then, He's fondly remembered, some of those games with Arsenal were he was almost unplayable, Could pass a fecking ball, Short(Triangles with teammates Like Scholesy) , those long searching balls to Ronnie... Never forget that scoope like pass to Danny Welbeck in that 8 - 2 Triumph.I adore Anderson, no regrets that he was the last players name I got on the back of a football shirt. I take it personally when people slag off such a loveable character.
Mcdonald's Mcdonald's!
Mcdonald's Mcdonald's!
and a new Anderson meme was born.What happened to Rafael? Injuries?
Seems a shame he is playing for a mid table Turkish side having only just turned 31, I always remember him being decent.
Seems a shame he is playing for a mid table Turkish side having only just turned 31, I always remember him being decent.
He was a massively popular character in that squad, hugely. Why do you think he lasted so long? Fergie was willing to give him so much time. Just watch footage of how those two acted around each other, it was so funny.
It's true. The dinner with Pep was well documented at the time and seemed random then. It made sense later when we learned that Fergie had basically offered him the United job. Carlo also said that Fergie had approached him but he was close to joining Madrid.I speak under correction, but there were things confirmed by both Pep and Klopp - that they were approached by SAF to take over but Pep had already agreed to join Bayern and Klopp wanted to stay at Dortmund. There were also rumors about Jose & Ancelotti being on the list. But yeah. Could mostly have been face saving exercises
How so?
Am I remembering incorrectly the idea that SAF thought that characters like Anderson were good for the group, guys that are very likeable and always upbeat?
You can tell Moyes was way down the list of candidates. We “approached” the likes of Klopp, Pep, Jose, Ancelotti etc, while Fergie just outright told Moyes he was the next United boss
Almost like he was so pissed off with the whole thing, he finally just said feck it, let’s pick someone who won’t say no.
Almost like he was so pissed off with the whole thing, he finally just said feck it, let’s pick someone who won’t say no.
I remember the midfield of him and cleverly running rings with triangle passes. Then he got injuredOne of my favourite players back then, He's fondly remembered, some of those games with Arsenal were he was almost unplayable, Could pass a fecking ball, Short(Triangles with teammates Like Scholesy) , those long searching balls to Ronnie... Never forget that scoope like pass to Danny Welbeck in that 8 - 2 Triumph.
Mcdonald's Mcdonald's!
Moyes would've had a better chance at United if he kept some of Fergie's backroom staff. He made a big mistake getting rid of the likes of Phelan and bringing in Jimmy fecking Lumsden.
Possibly, I think Rafael summed it up in his tweet though. He hadn’t won a thing, and he was trying to command the respect of serial winners. He was doomed from the start.
Phelan would overthrow him as manager in matter of months. Beautiful sight to watch could this be.
Agreed. That was his first mistake that fecked up united for years because of it. He seemed to have done everything wrong after that.
Yeah I don't disagree with that but it would've helped having coaches around him that had been with the squad for years and knew them.
Big Slap on the Chin, couldn't rap my head around those words, while watching the presser i was screaming my disapproval out loud.
Patrice Evra said same thing about Ando? Fondly remembered, those driving runs with the ball from deep.
They might even have stepped in once they saw Moyes with his VHS tapes of Phil Jagielka
People slag Ole off for this now, but context is important. At that time we’d only a few months before beaten them to the league by 11 points. The only thing that changed since was Moyes, and suddenly we had to aspire to be like them. Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s where he finally lost the players tbh.
It needed a big name like Jose at that stage, but the club tried to do it on the cheap with Moyes.
Commanding respect is one thing, but telling winners how they should behave is another.
Can't remember if it was just rumours, but didn't he show Rio and Vidic videos of Jagielka and suggest they should play more like him?
My guy
He did indeed. Think Rio confirmed it. Arguably the best centre back duo the league has ever seen, and you’re asking them to change what isn’t broken. The whole thing was a car crash.
All Moyes had to do was just walk in there keep all the staff and perhaps add 1 or 2 players. The coaching staff was the ones on the training field so they knew what the standards were and how to keep them up.
Moyes just kept chasing the big signing that never come.
Maybe Moyes was planned to be the fall guy for a big manager to come in after and bring us back to greatness, without too much comparison to SAF
Yup, Moyes probably had a lot to do to convince that group he was the right guy for the job, then he goes and does that, along with firing the staff the players were used to winning with.
It was always going to go one way after that.
Just had a giggling fit over this scenario. I will say it is a good thing Ando was part of a great winning squad, rather than a losing team, as his eccentricity was more palatable.Just picturing him on the team bus like an excited child, getting all giddy at the sight of the golden arches
Loved Rafa and Andom the joy they played with was so refreshing, and Rafa is not wrong, those odd spells with a fit Anderson were quite impressive, waste of talent overall.
what a clown.
(Anderson not Rafael)
(Anderson not Rafael)
Not sure what to make of this. I’ve read so many contradicting stories on Moyes. All I can say is, I think Fergie has regretted the decision as time has gone by.