Antisocial
Has a Sony home cinema
- Joined
- Jul 15, 2010
- Messages
- 15,635
He's Batman.
He's Batman.
What other team in their right mind want anything to do with this? It seems to me right now that the only way he leaves is on a free. Real or Juve won't/can't pay for him and won't/can't offer good enough players in return.With a plot twist like that M.Night Shylaman would be proud
He's Batman.
He's trying to imply he will get the deal done in silence. Good luck. I don't think we will accept it. Let's see how this charade ends up.‘I will do what I have to do not in front of you, but in the shadows, as I have always done.’
What's that supposed to mean?
I know what you mean but Pogba leaving is not as simple as just reinvesting the money.I hope we sell Pogba and don’t get sucked into making him the highest paid player in england. let him go to a club where he will be happy and where he will no doubt look world class again. What are the odds if he stays he ends up like DDG on monster money but looking unhappy and the fans increasingly on his back for patchy performances. I think Bruno took his most effective spot in the team.
If we actually reinvest the money plus our standard transfer budget (whatever that is?) and go and try and fill 2 or 3 first team holes then that’s a silver lining for everyone. Will we do that though? I think we could be in for another frustrating summer in the market with pogbas transfer/contract being the clubs main focus. Sancho, a defender and a DM and we could mount a proper title challenge. 200 million minus the Pogba money. We aren’t far away but it needs 1 or 2 serious signings to push it over the top.
Grealish is completly different. They are not the same player / position / style at all.He's a really good player but I think he will have to go if we're to sign the likes of Grealish in this current environment. And I'm ok with that - Grealish is the better player. Still wish he would go out with a better relation to the club/fans, still feel like he's one of our own.
Or we won't. We'll not spend enough to not miss him.The problem with selling Pogba, is that we can’t sign anyone better in his position.
I don’t see it. Pogba had his first good game for ages against top English opposition v Liverpool not so long ago. What was the best match before then? The city comeback? Spurs off the bench last season if they count? He’s not been consistent enough. He’s not happy here. Get rid. Take the money and run!I know what you mean but Pogba leaving is not as simple as just reinvesting the money.
A player like Pogba allows us to play in a certain way that is difficult to stop against major oppositions.
Him leaving, is more than just replacing him. We would need to change our way of playing, again.
When we are not yet fully successful, that's a set back for us.
Granted, we might need to go through it, but it's way easier if we can just build on Pogba instead of having to let him go, find a player who will undoubtfully force us to change our style, and build on.
There is that too. But even with unlimited money, who would be an upgrade on Pogba? Players that would come, I mean.Or we won't. We'll not spend enough to not miss him.
Not sure. I mean Poga has his plus and minuses as we know. Anyone we acquire would surely be different and not a direct kind for kind replacement. Maddison? Grealish? Someone who can carry the ball and transition it to the forwards.There is that too. But even with unlimited money, who would be an upgrade on Pogba? Players that would come, I mean.
I would consider them to be more Bruno and Rashford competitors. Grealish is great at carrying the ball (so the caf would hate him for not releasing the ball quickly enough), but I think Pogbas carrying and passing ability combined is greater than Grealish’s. Both good players, though.Not sure. I mean Poga has his plus and minuses as we know. Anyone we acquire would surely be different and not a direct kind for kind replacement. Maddison? Grealish? Someone who can carry the ball and transition it to the forwards.
Could sign someone like zakaria and let mctominay play his natural gameThe problem with selling Pogba, is that we can’t sign anyone better in his position.
Could do. But I disagree that McTominay is better than Pogba.Could sign someone like zakaria and let mctominay play his natural game
Talent wise no, but as a member of a team. He's levels above.Could do. But I disagree that McTominay is better than Pogba.
We can utilise Jones to cover his injury berthThe problem with selling Pogba, is that we can’t sign anyone better in his position.
Him and Zakaria, that's our midfield solved for the next 5 or so years.never want to see this rat anywhere near to our club...........We can replace pogba with players like Auoar ,.....not a problem
The problem with selling Pogba, is that we can’t sign anyone better in his position.
This./Or we won't. We'll not spend enough to not miss him.
We won't get someone as individually good, but we can get someone more suited to the position and how we want to play.The problem with selling Pogba, is that we can’t sign anyone better in his position.
I think that Raiola is doing his typical BS. Stir up interest. It will either help him to get a better contract or, if not, then sign with someone who will give him the contract he wants. This time, though, things are different since i'm not sure who has the cash to lay out and wants Pogba. Think he'll resign on better wages and keep Raviola.I dont believe this has anything to do with Pogba. I think he's trying to drive up interest in Pogba so that he can point to external interest if renegotiations are ongoing.
I have a feeling that one or two things are about to happen. Pogba is going to resign and Raiola is about to get turfed as his agent, or he's off to Juve in a swap with Ronaldo and cash our way.
Under any of our previous managers post SAF I'd think maybe this could happen, think Moyes with Rooney, and they use it as a power play to say how attractive the club is. However Ole seems ot have a clear idea of the type of player he wants in the squad (both playstyle wiseand mentality wise), and if that means letting people go who either dont fit that mould, or dont want to be part of the mould, then I would trust him to make the decision. Pogba will get a massive contract wherever he plays next season, but if he does stay and is offered a new deal, I would expect its because Ole and Pogba both have a full understanding of the other side's expectations.I hope we sell Pogba and don’t get sucked into making him the highest paid player in england. let him go to a club where he will be happy and where he will no doubt look world class again. What are the odds if he stays he ends up like DDG on monster money but looking unhappy and the fans increasingly on his back for patchy performances. I think Bruno took his most effective spot in the team.
Is there a good stats website for getting figures such as that? AKA click on a player and get the team's win% with them playing.with out Pogba, our win percentage is 100% this year (played 8, won 8) so I am not too concerned if he leaves.....If we get a mote committed and consistent player in his place I take it any day...with less circus
I doubt Ronaldo wants to come back. Besides we really dont need to swap one primamadona for another on ridiculous wages.I dont believe this has anything to do with Pogba. I think he's trying to drive up interest in Pogba so that he can point to external interest if renegotiations are ongoing.
I have a feeling that one or two things are about to happen. Pogba is going to resign and Raiola is about to get turfed as his agent, or he's off to Juve in a swap with Ronaldo and cash our way.
Technically accurate, but it gives a false impression since a number of them were teams like Luton, Watford, Baseksehir and West Brom, matches where we were obviously big favourites. Also need to add in the games where he was on the bench and came on late:with out Pogba, our win percentage is 100% this year (played 8, won 8) so I am not too concerned if he leaves.....If we get a mote committed and consistent player in his place I take it any day...with less circus
I've been wondering for a while whether there's a stats site or metric that weights opposition strength and then combines it with players' win%.Technically accurate, but it gives a false impression since a number of them were teams like Luton, Watford, Baseksehir and West Brom, matches where we were obviously big favourites. Also need to add in the games where he was on the bench and came on late:
Won:
Newcastle
Everton
Brighton
Draw:
PSG (he assisted to turn it into a win)
Chelsea
Leicester
Loss:
Baseksehir
PSG
Leipzig
And in the most recent Everton match we were winning when he had to go off injured and they eventually got the draw.
Not sure. I just normally use transfermarkt which probably has the easiest display of all the games in the season and which ones the player appeared in.I've been wondering for a while whether there's a stats site or metric that weights opposition strength and then combines it with players' win%.
Really hope we wouldn't sell Pogba and not replace him properlyThis./
The moment Raiola spouts his nonsense people act like it’s FM & that we’ll spend whatever we get + more to improve the team/squad which given our recent history just doesn’t seem likely.
When Pogba goes [looks inevitable] be prepared to be told how DVdB has had a season to settle & that he’ll ‘be better for it’.
That's actually him. 100%.
There's no comparison. Seriously its like comparing Noble with Scholes.Could do. But I disagree that McTominay is better than Pogba.
the system will need to change. I'd suggest VDB as a B2B with McT/Fred as DM. Then we invest big on a striker (Haaland) and a CBThe problem with selling Pogba, is that we can’t sign anyone better in his position.
Changing our way of playing isn't necessarily a bad thing though.I know what you mean but Pogba leaving is not as simple as just reinvesting the money.
A player like Pogba allows us to play in a certain way that is difficult to stop against major oppositions.
Him leaving, is more than just replacing him. We would need to change our way of playing, again.
When we are not yet fully successful, that's a set back for us.
Granted, we might need to go through it, but it's way easier if we can just build on Pogba instead of having to let him go, find a player who will undoubtfully force us to change our style, and build on.