Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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I don't disagree, but I wouldn't phrase it too negatively.
Varane has come for a final payday, and he was comparably poor in recent seasons which is why Real weren't fighting harder to keep him, but that doesn't mean that he isn't a fundamentally great player, numerically in his prime, who might benefit from a new challenge, adds massive quality and experience to the United defense, and has a good attitude and mentality.
Ronaldo, probably was overkill and a knee-jerk decision to sign him. But if that was detrimental to Ole's reign, it's ironic that he ultimately got fecked over by SAF to whom is is so devoted..

The funny thing about the Ronaldo signing is, though, people claim how Ronaldo goes against, or "kills", the team spirit and isn't hard-working enough anymore etc, but then how do you explain that City, by all accounts, were about to sign him? Would he have killed their team mentality too?
Who knows mate but he wouldn’t have had such a hard time in that team he would have been the focal point of attack and killed games with his leathal finishing. In our team he feeds of scraps and desperation- adding to the disharmony
 

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Who has he dropped? Ronaldo, Maguire, Rashford were injured today. Easy to drop players when they aren’t available. Also, if you could explain the system you’re seeing? I’ve seen a manager trying multiple formations and no real consistent style of play from game to game.

I’m happy to admit it is always going to be hard to change things quickly, but don’t make things up.
He's just desperate to make it look better than with Ole, truth doesn't matter to his campaign.
 

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Well this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I thought we brought him in in a “consultancy” role in order for him to advise what players to bring in, yet we veto any players he wants to bring in. Excellent.
Watch us sack him in February to bring Pochettino in after the window closes....
 

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You’d be the type to call for ETH sacking if we play badly in his first ten games
Why are you even talking about ETH? Is he a sure bet if he comes here? Just as likely to be another De Boer as he is a roaring success

Its just obvious we haven’t improved a jot since ole left. I wouldnt mind if you could see things on the pitch to give you encouragement but we cant. I have seen a change from dogshit to catshit on the pitch and everyone seems to be trying to pick at the differences to find a positive. All I see a 90’s 442 with static players and all the wingers on the bench.

We still look shit defensively, we still cant play basic passes, our players positioning is still shit, we’ve stopped scoring, our players still dont find space to recieve the ball. He can bemoan covid and new ideas but he hasnt even got them doing basic basic things. So much for a genius coach. Literally the gameplan for today was for greenwood to try and beat his man. Thats literally relying on ‘individual brilliance’. Theres no system there that i can see really. Its all very well saying ‘ooh, nice shape off the ball’ but you expect that from league 2 teams. I think that starts becoming a basic requirement once you get past under 7’s sides, its not an accolade. The season was gone under Ole and its even more gone now imo. He doesnt even seem to have the players backing. We were lucky to beat villa in the cup, we were lucky not to lose to newcastle, we were lucky norwich couldnt hit a barn door. If this is Ralf on a lucky streak i am deeply concerned for the rest of the season.
 

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That was actually much better today until we tired and gaps started appearing. We had a 34yo and a 33yo in the team, plus Fred, and it definitely showed in the final 20 minutes.

Rangnick can only do so much with the players he has available.
I agree, but we should have made changes after the 2nd goal.
We were visibly tiring with Matic and Cavani being pretty much invisible.
 

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Who knows mate but he wouldn’t have had such a hard time in that team he would have been the focal point of attack and killed games with his leathal finishing. In our team he feeds of scraps and desperation- adding to the disharmony
It is what it is. Don't cry over spilled milk. Ole had his shot, and he was given a long time. Don't despair over Rangnick either, you'll get a new manager in summer.
In the meantime, I'd try to appreciate that you get to see Ronaldo playing for you again, even if it's not as successful as you'd have liked. He's unique.
 

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I think this board might mess things up with Ralf. He should be allowed to make a couple of signings for January IMO, as long as they are young and ready to play in pressing systems. If they don’t do it it shows they don’t want him as long term coach (fair enough) and/or technical director (bad move). I think Ralf is making bits of progress but has inherited an absolute mess and now that he’s there should be backed to take the issues on. The players being unhappy (Martial, Henderson, Rashford) is a GOOD sign, rather than a bad one. It’s going to hurt to turn everything round so you’ve got to keep going with it. My feeling is, though, that the consultancy will have no power or will cancelled (possibly by Rangnick if he thinks the board is no good).
 

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We badly need a MF ASAP.

Then another in the summer. And a RB.
This. Three additions comes the summer will make us instantly better, also there will be massive clear out it seems.
 

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Who knows mate but he wouldn’t have had such a hard time in that team he would have been the focal point of attack and killed games with his leathal finishing. In our team he feeds of scraps and desperation- adding to the disharmony
Sorry to jump in but I’m fairly sure the stats say Ronadlo has wasted the most chances in the league and that’s with Greenwood and Rashford providing very little in the way of creativity. Ronaldo is still a good player, just the wrong player. No issue with him calling out the lads over greedy or lazy play though because it’s true and we probably needed someone to publicly say it
 

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33m pounds/40m € allegedly is the release clause for Haidara for summer. I'd say no way that Leipzig sell him for the same, voluntarily, in midseason.

Rangnick did agree that price though, that's true! As Leipzig DoF when handing Haidara the contract.
 

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Totally agree, even Pep wouldn’t get a tune out of this lot right now, I can’t believe the shit the guy is getting after only a few short weeks. This is not on RR.
Agreed the midfield is the heart of the team and we have McFred and Matic....the worst midfield in the league probably...
 

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If true the intpeness of this board knows no limit. To give a shite non proven coach hundreds of millions and nothing for Rangnick is just idiocy.
Throwing good money after bad isn't a great idea, in fairness.
 

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Why are you even talking about ETH? Is he a sure bet if he comes here? Just as likely to be another De Boer as he is a roaring success

Its just obvious we haven’t improved a jot since ole left. I wouldnt mind if you could see things on the pitch to give you encouragement but we cant. I have seen a change from dogshit to catshit on the pitch and everyone seems to be trying to pick at the differences to find a positive. All I see a 90’s 442 with static players and all the wingers on the bench.

We still look shit defensively, we still cant play basic passes, our players positioning is still shit, we’ve stopped scoring, our players still dont find space to recieve the ball. He can bemoan covid and new ideas but he hasnt even got them doing basic basic things. So much for a genius coach. Literally the gameplan for today was for greenwood to try and beat his man. Thats literally relying on ‘individual brilliance’. Theres no system there that i can see really. Its all very well saying ‘ooh, nice shape off the ball’ but you expect that from league 2 teams. I think that starts becoming a basic requirement once you get past under 7’s sides, its not an accolade. The season was gone under Ole and its even more gone now imo. He doesnt even seem to have the players backing. We were lucky to beat villa in the cup, we were lucky not to lose to newcastle, we were lucky norwich couldnt hit a barn door. If this is Ralf on a lucky streak i am deeply concerned for the rest of the season.
We definitely didn't play 442 today, did you actually watch it?
 

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It would be so United to finally appear to be doing the right thing - hiring a proven system guy - and then refusing to give him what he needs to play said system.
 

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Rangnick is not responsible for Fred not knowing how to pass a ball, being as easy to brush off as a fallen leaf, and having the first touch of an 8 year-old. RR picked him to play, but what are the other options?

RR failed today with his subs. We could have managed the game better with early subs and getting Fred and Matic and Cavani off the pitch. Leaving them on hurt us. Beyond that, at least RR has a plan, which Ole did not.
This
 

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Yeah but freds been shit for years. Under Ole it was ‘bad coaching’ and ‘failing to improve players’ now it suddenly is Freds fault. I do personally think he is a bit rubbish to be our first name on the teamsheet in midfield
 

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Theres no magic wand to the nonsense we have become. We don't have a balanced squad. We have a good few bad eggs (again) and it's not on Rangnick. With Woodward out the door and his successor apparently willing to let football people make the football decisions, there just might be a chink of light down the road. Right now, we are screwed and no chance of CL unless something dramatic happens. Can't see that but can see a massive culling of players at the end of the season which should help.
 

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I wouldn’t believe those stories. Surely we wouldn’t appoint a coach, tell him he’s being tasked with overseeing a complete reset of culture and playing style and not let him sign anyone?
I can believe that all day, not that it makes sense. We can't expect any real transition under him with the same midfield, honestly we can't.
 

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Yeah but freds been shit for years. Under Ole it was ‘bad coaching’ and ‘failing to improve players’ now it suddenly is Freds fault. I do personally think he is a bit rubbish to be our first name on the teamsheet in midfield
We were meant to be title contenders at the start of the season and now the squad needs rebuilding. The narrative quickly changes for the hysterical on here.
 

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We were meant to be title contenders at the start of the season and now the squad needs rebuilding. The narrative quickly changes for the hysterical on here.
I personally said from the start of the season we werent getting near the title with our midfield. We could sign Haaland, Kounde and Mbappe this summer and we wont be anywhere near it next year either.
 

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On Monday he talked about throwing on a midfielder to change the momentum of the game. against the same team 5 days later he does no such thing. Maybe he thought his team wasnt getting as overrun in the midfield and the scores just happened too fast to make changes. just kind of crazy that he would not make some changes early to prepare for the period where United go into a lull and fall apart because we see it every dam game.
 

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Clueless, at one point I seen Cavani playing left back tonight…

One of if not the richest club in the world and we have Ralf as manager!!

Sir Alex backed the glaziers back in the day, would love to know what he thinks of them now.
 

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Well this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I thought we brought him in in a “consultancy” role in order for him to advise what players to bring in, yet we veto any players he wants to bring in. Excellent.
Good point. A rudderless ship we are.
 

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I refuse to call him crap, but I somehow agree with posts above. If he was such a brilliant coach we shouldn't be seeing some of the things we see on the pitch at the moment. Granted, a lot of our recent failures can be down to the players not giving enough of a feck, but some of the decisions on his end have been poor and I definitely think if he was the brilliant coach we hoped he was, we could have seen it already more clearly in the football field.
 

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Cant polish a turd… I will judge him after we sign a decent CDM.
I agree. Matic and Fred were terrible, if we could get an actual midfield then I will judge. I actually thought we did quite well in the first 30 minutes. Players still need to improve and get on board. small steps , very small.
 

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We were meant to be title contenders at the start of the season and now the squad needs rebuilding. The narrative quickly changes for the hysterical on here.
Whoever said we were title contenders going into this season was a tad over-optimistic. From what I remember, everyone was saying we should hopefully not fall so far behind City this season, and that we were lucky to get 2nd last time out.
 

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First half I think we saw what he is talking about, mostly. Good energy, created some decent moments, managed to win the ball back and play high.

Second half we completely shat the bed. Our level fell off a cliff in all departments. Waiting to get beat.

Very strange at the moment. Mostly bad. I'd say 80% bad and 20% good. Hard to tell what the progress is, whether there's teething issues or maybe whether he is just completely at a loss.
 

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I agree. Matic and Fred were terrible, if we could get an actual midfield then I will judge. I actually thought we did quite well in the first 30 minutes. Players still need to improve and get on board. small steps , very small.
Yea kind of agree love SAF but he did have Scholes in his midfield for going on 20 years, makes a diff
 
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