Carrick was hired as a coach in Mourinho's last summer same as McKenna.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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Well obviously not, if he's not the manager he won't be training the team any longer. A different way of shaping the team sure, but he won't be at pitch level training the team like he is now if Ten Hag/Poch come in.
I love Ole - but I’ve never known the coaching staff to be dug out the way the media and this place has done when a manager has quite clearly lost the players. They weren’t equally responsible were they? Of course the manager takes most of the responsibility.
I bet DVB is doing cartwheels around his house. He fits perfectly into his style of play.
Yeah was gonna correct that part.
Why is everyone convinced Carrick was a coach under LVG? He played for another couple of years after his sacking.
No but he's brought in to shape the direction the club is taking. He's going to have influence beyond 6 months. Quite a bit I would imagine, including helping get the right players and coach in to fit the vision.
Someone actually said that? He started coaching under Jose, continued with Ole.
Carrick will have played under Fergie and LVG and been assistant under Mourinho and now Rangnick. If he can pick up a few qualities from each, he might be able to make one hell of a manager himself in a couple of years.
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I’m pleased as punch with this news. Lot of players going to get a big kick up the arse. Not sure this squad are capable of playing to his philosophy, but time will tell. Martial needs to learn how to run for a start
And that's long term is it? In this vague "consultancy" role working with his mate Murtough? I'm not saying it isn't a genius long term plan but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Ok well my point was he's got 6 months at pitch level to turn the side into his image.
Obviously he can still influence beyond that but i'm not sure just how much? a consultancy role doesn't sound very involved personally. Maybe more of a scouting/DOF style role.
Well what's long term to you?
It's a sensible and well thought out move by the club. If you want to moan about it or try and pick holes then that's cool. Perhaps try being positive though. Life's much more enjoyable!
I'm not sure why everyone is getting hung up on the consultancy thing. He's not even arrived yet for the manager role. His latter one will become more widely defined in due course.
Ultimately it's been said he only wanted the job if he had an influential position afterwards where he could shape a project. He turned Chelsea down for the same reason.
It's more logical to think he's going to be involved than some distant voice with no power based on that alone and what we know about him as a person.
The most hilarious thing about this whole situation is how meticulous the board, Murtough et Al were with making this decision, both to sack Ole and to hire Ralf.
The fact that they interviewed numerous candidates, the fact that they were looking for something in particular, the fact that Ralf was contacted in the first place, due to Murtough.
Just shows that as poor as some decisions have been, the board do actually think about things and ultimately have the interests of the club at heart.
The way some throw crap at the board and the club in general in here really grinds my gears, just wish people would see the bigger picture.
The fact that they interviewed numerous candidates, the fact that they were looking for something in particular, the fact that Ralf was contacted in the first place, due to Murtough.
Just shows that as poor as some decisions have been, the board do actually think about things and ultimately have the interests of the club at heart.
The way some throw crap at the board and the club in general in here really grinds my gears, just wish people would see the bigger picture.
Jeez, it appears Deadwood has multiple accounts on this website.
I think people are entitled to be impatient with the board. They have a track record of making some fecking dire decisions that are often based on revenue and not football. It's a pleasant change to see them make a football decision for once but don't expect fans to be dancing in the street and singing their names just yet.
Was always my ideal choice because he offers us something on and off the pitch. However knowing how badly this club has been ran for last 16 years didn't expect for us to get him.
Wow. Exciting times to be a United fan!
The Glazers must be pissing their pants at the thought of him turning us into some machine that buys and sells players for profit.
"I always say to the players 'Vorsprung durch technik' which means 'through the stars we overcome adversity' " - Ralf Rangnick, 2010
How the feck are coaches, working under the instruction of a manager, “equally responsible”
They coach what the manager instructs them. Be it Mourinho, Ole or Ragnick. A top manager will ensure they know exactly what they are supposed to be doing.
As I said earlier, Phelan “coached” us to a PL and CL double.
I agree, I can't really can't see many 'giant clubs' hiring Poch, so I'm gonna presume he'll swallow his pride and become the head coach assuming he's offered the job, which I'm not sure they will.
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You seem a little obsessed with the bloke.
It’s almost verging on creepy, like Daydreamer’s Messi obsession.
Damn, he sold a Disney movie quote to Woodward.
The consultancy question has come up a few times.
Rangnick and his assistant, Lars Konetka, run a consultancy firm which advices clubs on their growth strategy and structure.
He is putting this business on hold whilst he does the interim manager job at United.
Although the board had said that the interim was to work with the current staff he will be bringing Lars with him. This seems to a concession from the board.
After the 6 months when he is a consultant he will not be exclusive to United but will provide consultancy to United and to the other clubs that he currently has consultancy contracts with; so this is a great way for him to grow that business. He becomes very high profile and has United on his CV as a client for at least 2 years.
Source: Manchester United Picks Ralf Rangnick as Interim Manager - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
Rangnick and his assistant, Lars Konetka, run a consultancy firm which advices clubs on their growth strategy and structure.
He is putting this business on hold whilst he does the interim manager job at United.
Although the board had said that the interim was to work with the current staff he will be bringing Lars with him. This seems to a concession from the board.
After the 6 months when he is a consultant he will not be exclusive to United but will provide consultancy to United and to the other clubs that he currently has consultancy contracts with; so this is a great way for him to grow that business. He becomes very high profile and has United on his CV as a client for at least 2 years.
Source: Manchester United Picks Ralf Rangnick as Interim Manager - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
I have seen a few poaters say maguire won't suit him, why? Surely cbs are the least effected by his style of football.
Good for him, we fecking need it.
Underwhelming. The only thing to hope for is that his reputation holds some water (style of play, influencing the clowns upstairs from a footballing perspective) and he is actually useful for us in that 2-year tenure as a 'consultant', whatever that means. People getting excited over a relative nobody manager who has not had any success at the highest levels is quite amusing. This guy reminds me of Bielsa, where they preach a bunch but haven't really turned that into any sort of success on the pitch in the last 15 years. Praying we have a solid plan for a 'real' elite manager come summer. Still, guess anything is better than Ole at this point.
You'll find a lot of information on him in this thread. But one anecdote to show what he's capable of: After a weaker start into the season in 2006 he was fired by the typical dysfunctional Schalke after finishing second in the Bundesliga a year before. A move quite some Schalke fans regret until today.
Then I thought he got crazy when he took a job in the third league at Hoffenheim, which was backed by a German billionaire. At that time Hoffenheim got stuck in the third league, after marching through from the eight league. Even money and Hansi Flick as manager couldn't get them promoted for 4 seasons out of the third league. But then Rangnick came, decided he would only buy young and fast players under 21 and play pressing like crazy. He marched through to the Bundesliga and finished first in the table at Christmas 2008 - it was nuts! It went only downhill after he lost at Bayern 2-1 in December, but I was astonished how they played Bayern, who were very lucky to win that game. That season they finished seventh and I finally realised that he was not crazy but a genius.
Doesn't he love a high press, high back line? If so, Maguire is in trouble.
He has a big thing about never passing sideways, or being a complete and total gowl with the ball at your feet. Maguire tends to gowl around a lot and does a lot of sideways/backwards passing. Also, Maguire slow AF. Refrigerators aren't good at playing a high line.
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