70m for VVD helped them out. And they always have a couple of players on loan from bigger clubs.Did they say 24m net spend over the last 7 years?
He's doing an incredible job.
Allegedly once his contract with Southampton expires in 2024.Didn't he say he might retire soon?
Why would he? He only does that after getting a result against top teams.Surprised he didn’t cry after yesterdays draw.
Bazinga!Why would he? He only does that after getting a result against top teams.
CheckmateWhy would he? He only does that after getting a result against top teams.
Surprised at that, he's not that old is he. Sure he was only early 40s when he managed Leipzig. Ralph is pretty emotional with his comments so suspect he dosen't mean it as coaching is a drug for these guys once they have a few months out of the game.Allegedly once his contract with Southampton expires in 2024.
54Surprised at that, he's not that old is he. Sure he was only early 40s when he managed Leipzig. Ralph is pretty emotional with his comments so suspect he dosen't mean it as coaching is a drug for these guys once they have a few months out of the game.
I actually remember this happening in our game against them at the weekend. I thought it was a joke how the referee just allowed them all to waltz off to the touchline.Tweet
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Non head injury, refs should be telling them to get treatment off the side of the pitch, while getting on with the game. The player will be waved back on. Standing and consuming rather quickly a gel or drink for a minute or two does give your body an immediate boost, especially 15 to 25 minutes after halftime.Pretty clever if done on purpose!
Is there anything that could be done about that? It's basically a time-out, with the added advantage that the opposing team isn't prepared and won't take advantage the same way.
Yeah but the referee adds in an extra minute after their 3-4 min break….so fair is fair?I actually remember this happening in our game against them at the weekend. I thought it was a joke how the referee just allowed them all to waltz off to the touchline.
Hassehuttl actually resigned and wasn't prepared to be a place holder for Nagelsmann, hence Rangnick filling in as head coach for the 2018/19 season.I'd think it's clear to say that this guy wont coach us. Not with Rangnick as a sporting director. Rangnick once said that he fired Hassenhuttl because he thought he couldn't improve Leipzig more and they wanted Nagelsmann instead, but Nagelsmann couldn't join so Rangnick sacked Hassenhuttl, took over the coaching for one season, led the club to a 3rd place and then hired Nagelsmann.
No, Hasenhüttl was almost 50 when he was hired by Leipzig. Unlike the coaching prodigies like Nagelsmann or Tuchel whose careers were ended by injuries early, Hasenhüttl had a full playing career (not on a particularly high level) and then worked his way upwards from youth teams to lower league clubs to promotion into Bundesliga with Ingolstadt, which was the work that got him the Leipzig job. His Ingolstadt were a piece of work, I remember Kimmich had his starting debut in midfield against them under Pep.Surprised at that, he's not that old is he. Sure he was only early 40s when he managed Leipzig. Ralph is pretty emotional with his comments so suspect he dosen't mean it as coaching is a drug for these guys once they have a few months out of the game.
Hassenhuttl has 1,34 ppm with Soton. Puel had 1.38. Koeman 1,64. Pochettino 1,45.Upto 10th place now (granted they played 3 matches more than the next placed team).
Potter is often recommended here to take over as our manager but this guy isn't being mentioned at all. Probably because of the two 9-0, dubbings but I don't think people realize how good he is.
Just compared Potter stats with this guy.
Potter:
1.22 points per game (113 matches )
1.15 goals scored average per game.
33 wins and 41 loses.
Hassenhuttl:
1.34 points per game (143 matches)
1.48 goals scored average per game.
53 wins, 57 loses.
(Not taking any other clubs other than Southampton. He had a better record with RBL)
Potter is actually a worse manager than this guy. He deserves a chance with a big club and I really hope that's us if we can't get ETH.
I agree that it's impossible to compare the ppg for different clubs with very different structures and context and try to make a definitive judgment on who is doing a better job. Likewise, it's also tricky making those ppg comparisons between those Southampton managerial spells as Southampton have probably spent less under RH than under the others. I still remember how they were trying to offload players in January '21 while the squad was already super thin, because the owners were trying to asset strip the club as much as possible. RH has been working in diabolical conditions there at Southampton at a time when plenty of mid table clubs are spending decent money (which wasn't the case during the previous managerial reigns there).Hassenhuttl has 1,34 ppm with Soton. Puel had 1.38. Koeman 1,64. Pochettino 1,45.
Hugthon had 1,18 and 1,09 PPM in his two seasons in the PL. Context, and where the clubs came from, is important.
Context is important when it comes to what Southampton they were managing too. Hassenhuttl has been forced to sell his best players and bring through youth and is on an upward trajectory.Hassenhuttl has 1,34 ppm with Soton. Puel had 1.38. Koeman 1,64. Pochettino 1,45.
Hugthon had 1,18 and 1,09 PPM in his two seasons in the PL. Context, and where the clubs came from, is important.
There’s a middle ground between coincidence and plan. Which is not that there’s some pre-agreed idea to fake injury in that timeframe, just an agreement that in the event of an injury in the second half it’s one of the coaches jobs to bring out energy drinks. I guess that stat only makes sense as a conspiracy theory if you picked an arbitrary 10 minute timeframe, say 70-80 mins, and found that much less players were going down, or if they didn’t give energy drinks when they did go down.Pretty clever if done on purpose!
Is there anything that could be done about that? It's basically a time-out, with the added advantage that the opposing team isn't prepared and won't take advantage the same way.
I get your point. But Southampton have always sold their best players. Just look at all the players who have left the past decade.I agree that it's impossible to compare the ppg for different clubs with very different structures and context and try to make a definitive judgment on who is doing a better job. Likewise, it's also tricky making those ppg comparisons between those Southampton managerial spells as Southampton have probably spent less under RH than under the others. I still remember how they were trying to offload players in January '21 while the squad was already super thin, because the owners were trying to asset strip the club as much as possible. RH has been working in diabolical conditions there at Southampton at a time when plenty of mid table clubs are spending decent money (which wasn't the case during the previous managerial reigns there).
Both Potter and Hasenhuttl are doing a great job. Whether that can translate at a club with a toxic player power culture and non-stop media interest, is an open question.
I disagree, I think he’s a great manager and would succeed at a big club.Still something about him that I don't rate. Might be those 9-0 results, might be something else. I think he's fine at a club like Southampton but don't know if he has the mettle to take on a United job.
The job would be too big for him. He wants to retire in 2024. that is not the mindset of someone for us. He would get eaten alive mentally here. If he thinks Saints and PL is draining, the United job would be too big for himI disagree, I think he’s a great manager and would succeed at a big club.
Think Utd would do really well to get him.
My subjective take is also that Potter is doing a better job, or looks the more interesting option. But I'm not entirely sure that he's had a more difficult job. I think they've both been very impressive working with quite significant limitations. What I like about Potter, outside of getting a team to play like a team - and very attractive football at that - is how composed he comes across. It will be interesting to see how he does at his next club, especially if the structure there isn't as aligned as it is at Brighton.I get your point. But Southampton have always sold their best players. Just look at all the players who have left the past decade.
But I agree. They are not an easy club to manage. Koeman was probably the lucky one, as they got in so much money from Liverpool just before he came in (Lovren, Lallana, Lambert) and where in a great state after Pochettinos time there.
Still think it is more impressive to see where Brighton are today for a number of reasons;
A) I consider their squad less good. And even worse when Potter came in.
B) They have less resources,
C) When Potter came in they had been playing a brand of football similar to Burnley/Stoke. He managed to change them with seveal of the same players still there.
Furthermore, I consider their football «better». More sophisticated. More difficult to pull off. More about being able to dominate both on and off the ball.
Entirely different conditions. All of the Southampton managers had more to spend while this guy has had absolutely nothing.Hassenhuttl has 1,34 ppm with Soton. Puel had 1.38. Koeman 1,64. Pochettino 1,45.
Hugthon had 1,18 and 1,09 PPM in his two seasons in the PL. Context, and where the clubs came from, is important.
They have spent more in the past due to selling players for more. There is nothing fundamental that has changed at Soton allowing them to now spend less.Entirely different conditions. All of the Southampton managers had more to spend while this guy has had absolutely nothing.
Also the samples of others are quite small. 53 matches for Puel , 93 for Koeman and 60 matches for Poch.
What ? Nothing changed fundamentally? The owners has become less ambitious and has not been spending as they used to.They have spent more in the past due to selling players for more. There is nothing fundamental that has changed at Soton allowing them to now spend less.
My point is that Southampton overall is pretty much where they were, on average, in the period from 2012 to 2018. A few did worse. A few did a lot better. As a club, Southampton were midtable for more than half a decade prior to Hassenhuttl. They still are.