Bang average performance by Varane today. He hasn't been anything special the whole season. Let's see what he does under the new manager next season.
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He was bad, it reminded the times where France or Madrid had no serious midfield. In those cases he can lose his mind.
Agree, but all of Smalling's weaknesses combined have turned into Manchester United Varane. Only thing is missing is the relentless pulling of shirts in our penalty box. His awkward passing is similar to Smalling that it's uncanny.
He got a likeable personality though. Probably what saves him from more criticism.
Quality defender but all through his career there have beel little mistakes, Ramos would often cover them at Madrid list Vidic would for Rio with his lapses of concentration.
But though when he has played he has been ok, do worry about just how good he actually will be for us. Has a great personality and ability, but still not sure we should be talking about the right partner for him.....more a case of two centre bacs to challengs both him and Maguire for starting spots with the mix of injuries and poor performacnes between the two of them.
Lindlof isnt a challenger, he is a squad player gettign too many games, Bailly and Jones are gone, Tuanzabe has failed.....only leaves Mengi behinf those three
But though when he has played he has been ok, do worry about just how good he actually will be for us. Has a great personality and ability, but still not sure we should be talking about the right partner for him.....more a case of two centre bacs to challengs both him and Maguire for starting spots with the mix of injuries and poor performacnes between the two of them.
Lindlof isnt a challenger, he is a squad player gettign too many games, Bailly and Jones are gone, Tuanzabe has failed.....only leaves Mengi behinf those three
Matic has given us some solid years.
Varane has been absolute shit from start to finish.
It's nothing new. The guy always had these kind of mistakes in him even in his best years. Ramos was the real leader of Madrid's defense. Varane needs someone to school him in defense. He's not a leader of a back 4 and will never be. He shone with Madrid because he has a top class leader next to him.
So, good prank and all but when are Madrid sending us the real Varane?
Not a natural athlete, which sounds a crazy thing to say but the way he runs looks like he has very little balance and agility/lateral strength. Seems very weak and slow, very little power and pace to react to duels.
Thinking of combining Varane and Maguire in one defensive backline from the start was really a bad idea from the start. Both aren't leaders. It was destined to fail.
Man United need a proper leader at the back. A defender who can actually organize defense and school those playing alongside him. Someone like Rio.
Man United need a proper leader at the back. A defender who can actually organize defense and school those playing alongside him. Someone like Rio.
As one of the few players who probably still has value and would spark interest from other clubs I am desperate for us to sell him this summer. I know we are possibly looking at a mid table finish next season if we ship too may players out but better to rip off the band aid and ship out players who are clearly already beginning to decline and use the fee plus the savings in wages to take a punt or two on ascending young players who may actually be the long term answer. Madrid would have found the money to pay him last year if they thought he was still worth it.
I'm not sure a more passive Lindelof was really what was needed.
Thiago struggled massively last year and know looks like the man they signed,I’m hopeful and slight optimistic varane will do the same.
There's no question that he's a world class player. He's one of the few in our squad where we don't need to doubt him. A proper manager and a functioning team and he will be a key part of it. Today was a player who doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing.
But Smalling's passing.....
All we heard for years that ball playing defenders would change our stars. Turns out that ball playing defenders still have to be able to defend, who knew?
Madrid would not have sold Varane if they thought he was the player of old.
Not really. He's one of many who have ton of doubts over his head.
Madrid didn't want to sell him. They literally spent years offering him new contracts and he turned them down as he was ready to try something new.
Been poor. Hoping that next season he will come good.
What's world class about him? If you were picking a world XI he's nowhere near it.
Four Champions Leagues and a World Cup says otherwise. He was still playing every game he was available for Madrid last season. If he can do that, he is still plenty good enough for us. The question mark is his fitness, not his ability.
I mean, his last couple of seasons at Real were a noticeably lower performance level than his earlier seasons, so there are some question marks over his current ability. Hopefully once ETH comes in and get us performing better as a team he'll start getting back to his old form.
First, these are past achievements, now we're dealing with a 29 years old player who's most probably going to decline rather than improve from here.
Second, he didn't achieve these alone. He was playing in a team full of Galacticos, and more importantly, as said above, he had a top class leader playing alongside him in Ramos.
Varane is a good defender but he has been doing these kind of mistakes his entire career. He was lucky to have Ramos playing with him, full stop. He needs someone to continuously school him to avoid such concentration issues.
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How can you say this? This is based on UCL titles a few years ago where his hand was being held by one of the greatest ever CB’s. He’s been shocking, absolutely nothing is guaranteed next season I don’t understand. How does a manager prevent him from making the mistake he made against Arsenal, and today that poor touch
Who cares what he's won in the past? All that matters is how good he is right now. He's nowhere near world class. He looked like a complete clown this evening. Every player we have has question marks over their head.
He’s finished 
We tried to buy Champions League Varane and got Championship Varane instead.
Another “top player” we seemingly got a free run at and you start to wonder why. Old Trafford really is a graveyard for careers right now.
You put any centre-half in our side at the moment and they're going to look shite. We have a right-back whose defensively suspect, a left-back who is defensively terrible, one defensive midfielder who has the turning circle of the Titanic and another defensive midfielder who has the positional sense of the navigator's on board the Titanic. When you couple that with De Gea who, in spite of his shot stopping qualities, is not proactive at preventing chances, being a centre-half in this side is a completely thankless task.
Varane has been disappointing this season but at this stage it's fairly obvious to me that our biggest problems as a defensive unit do not lie at centre-half.
Varane has been disappointing this season but at this stage it's fairly obvious to me that our biggest problems as a defensive unit do not lie at centre-half.
He was absolute shit, based on his performance this season I would sell him asap. He hasnt been nowhere near as good as his CV would suggest.
He's got a fine pass on him, but he's been a garbage defender pretty much all season. I'd take the lunatic headless Eric Bailly over him, without question.
Or maybe this club has the tendency of turning good players into shit ones. Since he’s not the first (or last) to go through this transformation.
Or maybe we don't have the exigency culture that Madrid has, so players don't put the effort they did.
We have a culture of rewarding failure, see Bruno. Shit year, got his wages doubled even though he still had 3 years left on his contract.
He has quite simply been awful in every game he has played unfortunately.
If he was called Maguire, people would be going crazy about his form.
If he was called Maguire, people would be going crazy about his form.
Someone please tell me what he is supposed to be good at?
Aerial ability: could not head a bus queue
Pace; average at best
Positioning: ok but the whole defence is fubar so hard to judge
Leadership: non existent from what I can see
Tackling: average
Passing: limited (and I’m being generous with that)
Drop a bollock-ability: outstanding! Regularly has one or two absolute howlers every game
he may have won loads earlier in his career but he’s fecking dogshit right now
Aerial ability: could not head a bus queue
Pace; average at best
Positioning: ok but the whole defence is fubar so hard to judge
Leadership: non existent from what I can see
Tackling: average
Passing: limited (and I’m being generous with that)
Drop a bollock-ability: outstanding! Regularly has one or two absolute howlers every game
he may have won loads earlier in his career but he’s fecking dogshit right now
Your reply doesn’t contradict mine.
Speaking of Bruno, look at the player he was when he joined us versus the player we turned him into.
This is a load of nonsense, and it’s funny seeing people using any bad game Varane has to try and defend Maguire when Maguire has been much worse. Varane playing poorly doesn’t vindicate Maguire who’s been shocking all season.
Poor today. Not saying much of course, but he’s been our best defender this season.
Those are patches, look at the player Rashford was and was he is now.
The problem is we are not ruthless enough to demand high performances from players. Sadly we've been this road for almost a decade now so we have a squad filled with a bunch of entitled losers.
Players that have won nothing in their whole career and have been here for years, yet every season they talk about winning trophies and how it's not good enough etc
We need a total reset. Push the old players out and bring hungry players in.
Bringing just one or two winners into the team won't be enough, sooner or later they are permeated with the losing culture of the squad.
That's maybe why players start well and they decline here, they just realize there's no exigency here and they don't have to perform at top level to be rewarded as such.
I envy Madrid's winning culture, many criticize them for being classless talking about how they don't respect their figures, like when they shipped out Raul or Casillas. How they boo'ed Cristiano. But their culture is to win above everything or anyone, ruthless no one is untouchable and titles are demanded every single season.
I for one, don't care for any of the players in the squad. I would sell every single one of them, including Cristiano, Varane, De Gea, Bruno or whoever.
Was he defending Maguire? Not at all. Just asking you to imagine if that was Maguire’s performance instead of Varane’s and how differently you or most of caf would have reacted.
But he’s getting plenty of criticism, there’s even people in here saying he should be sold. The reason Maguire gets it worse is because he’s been more of a calamity this season, and as the captain and one of our most expensive signings ever, he’s seen as more accountable.
Must be a worry when the most memorable defensive performance I've seen all season was by Phil Jones. Very deep issues. Have to wonder who's coaching the player and their desire to perform.
Wonder if anyone can ever logically explain why a player is accountable for his transfer fee? Him nor his agent agree fees between clubs and it's a ridiculous thing to blame him for.
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