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Aye he's bang averageHow much time does this "Boy" Martial need? He is not a striker.
Overrated, Over hyped, He is not a Manchester United player. Time to get rid.
Aye he's bang averageHow much time does this "Boy" Martial need? He is not a striker.
Overrated, Over hyped, He is not a Manchester United player. Time to get rid.
Not a fair comparison at all. Southampton and Schalke were both attacking teams and not rigid in how they wanted their attackers to play. It gives a freedom of expression not afforded to someone like Traore at Wolves who is in a defensive team and has a specific set of jobs to do in that team.He's weirdly overrated on the Caf, frankly. He's a decent player for a mid-table team because he's freakishly strong and quite quick. But in a thread talking about the lack of goals, it must be pointed out that he scored 6 in 71 for Wolves. Just for comparison: Sadio Mané had 25 in 75 for Southampton, Leroy Sané had 13 in 57 for Schalke and 39 in 134 for City - but of course a lot of those were substitute appearances.
Traoré is exactly the sort of player we shouldn't buy. He can "do a job" but he'll never be a top class player.
He had similar numbers at Middlesbrough, and only slightly better at Barca B.Not a fair comparison at all. Southampton and Schalke were both attacking teams and not rigid in how they wanted their attackers to play. It gives a freedom of expression not afforded to someone like Traore at Wolves who is in a defensive team and has a specific set of jobs to do in that team.
Middlesbrough are not an attacking team. Barcelona B is there for players to iron out their game. I don't think it's a fair barometer to use in contrast to the professional game at adult level.He had similar numbers at Middlesbrough, and only slightly better at Barca B.
He is just a player who doesn't score a lot. He's good at what he does and a good player but not someone we should sign - Wolves is perfect for him.
There's probably a reason why he's been used that way throughout his career then. We need an attacking wide forward, not a touchline hugging runner and signing someone to then convert them at the age of 24 is generally not a great idea, or at least not in our present circumstances.Middlesbrough are not an attacking team. Barcelona B is there for players to iron out their game. I don't think it's a fair barometer to use in contrast to the professional game at adult level.
Traore has been used as an outlet runner since turning pro, not an attacking wing-forward, so he has to be compared to others who have done the same job for their teams, if an objective conclusion is to be reached.
Traore has even been considered a wing-back by some, such has been the roles and job briefings he's had.
I think it’s slightly the opposite. I feel certain fans find its a cheat code to be strong and fast. Therefore meaning there is nothing more to his game.He's weirdly overrated on the Caf, frankly. He's a decent player for a mid-table team because he's freakishly strong and quite quick. But in a thread talking about the lack of goals, it must be pointed out that he scored 6 in 71 for Wolves. Just for comparison: Sadio Mané had 25 in 75 for Southampton, Leroy Sané had 13 in 57 for Schalke and 39 in 134 for City - but of course a lot of those were substitute appearances.
Traoré is exactly the sort of player we shouldn't buy. He can "do a job" but he'll never be a top class player.
This isn't the thread for it, so I'll make this my last post on Traore.There's probably a reason why he's been used that way throughout his career then. We need an attacking wide forward, not a touchline hugging runner and signing someone to then convert them at the age of 24 is generally not a great idea, or at least not in our present circumstances.
You know, I did want to say that he reminds me of Valencia. And honestly, I wouldn't want Valencia now. He'd be an improvement over James or Mata, sure, but not the type of player we need.I think it’s slightly the opposite. I feel certain fans find its a cheat code to be strong and fast. Therefore meaning there is nothing more to his game.
You can compare him to those players but his trajectory is different.. he’s gone from a highly rated player at Barcelona to fighting it out with struggling teams in the Prem and Championship... but he’s education is well rounded. Wolves have really worked on his raw talent and I think now is the perfect time for him to go up a level again where he can start to stat pad like the names above.
Antonio Valencia had 6 goals in around 89 games for Wigan.
You don't need a front 2 to be attacking though.I’d play them as a front 2, but every manager we get seems to play defensively with a lone striker
That's what I believe as well. I don't think it's a case of Martial being a great partner for Rashford, just that he's a better option than having nobody there at all. If we can find a genuine main striker to play alongside Rashford (i.e. Rashford would be the second striker rather than the main goal threat), that could be a very decent partnership indeed.The stats don't lie in this case. However, I don't see them as a great duo that work well together. I think the stats are so more because two good scorers on the pitch is much more effective than just one. It's as simple as that.
For sure, they team up well every once in a while with some slick passing and finding each other. Most of the time, though, they seem to be on a different page with one making a run when the other thought he was posting up. Someday they might be a cohesive unit but they are not right now. Maybe, a good 10 like Bruno, can help create better chemistry.
Is he a good link up player though or is this new obsession with him being a false 9 just to excuse his other short comings?Neither are ‘Fox in the box’ types, bursting a gut to get on the end of crosses. Martial in particular is too static in the box for my liking. He’s a good linkup player but not good at making runs to the near or far posts for example. We really really missed out with Haaland
For that price Haaland was a no brainer but I don't see the link with Martial and Rashford. The player that you are looking for doesn't have to be the number 9, it could easily be right side forward which is a position that we still haven't properly filled. With proper coaching Greenwood could be that player but I don't have faith in our coaching staff otherwise I wouldn't mind it if we tried to get players like Volland or Bailey, they are different but either of them could provide a dozen of goals and assists per seasons in the league.Neither are ‘Fox in the box’ types, bursting a gut to get on the end of crosses. Martial in particular is too static in the box for my liking. He’s a good linkup player but not good at making runs to the near or far posts for example. We really really missed out with Haaland
Any eggs should sit on ED's face for not being able to sign any decent right side attacker.baske
How is that daft, it's pretty much the case for all attackers on earth and by that logic we need to move on from Rashford too. The problem for us is who replaces these two players when they are not on the pitch, what is daft is to suggest that we should move on from them when we should add quality and whoever performs better, starts.Any eggs should sit on ED's face for not being able to sign any decent right side attacker.
I understand that you can try to get a player for a particular period of time, but, in the same time, you still need to cover your weakest area on the pitch. Nothing amazes me anymore with ED to be honest.
On topic, yes, Martial and Rashford look good together, but I still think Martial hasn't progressed at all and should be moved on. We can't rely on one attacker that is completely dependable of another being on the pitch, it's daft.
We need a serious upgrade on Martial if we're aiming for big things.
The promosing thing about about this is all of those players are in thier prime at age 27+, except Martial and Rashford, who surely have huge potential to get better. In addition, they have had less appearances than all the others (29 and 28). If they can both stay fit for a season, we could see some big numbers.
Here's another stat for you:
Rashford has assisted Martial 5 times in the Premiership. Only two other couples have more - De Bryune to Aguero (6) & Traore to Raul (7).
Tbf, they were younger and inconsistent then and less mature at their game then.Don't know if anyone mentioned it but both equalled Ibrahimovic's league tally for 2016/2017 season today.
They really should've been trusted 4 years ago more than we'd seen, and why Mourinho's years were a waste.
This aged well Mr @James WardHow much time does this "Boy" Martial need? He is not a striker.
Overrated, Over hyped, He is not a Manchester United player. Time to get rid.
No wonder he can't make the France squad. He is probably the most overrated player United have had in the last few seasons.
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