Rashford is going ahead with surgery and could be out until October

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This is the steaming turd right in the middle of a potentially great transfer window.

We need him fit.

I can see what will happen here, Sancho will come in and play LW and will do well, then when Rashford comes back we will FOREVER have people saying we need to play Sancho left and drop Rashford.

Would have wanted them to all slot into their required positions from the off. :(
Does it matter if Sancho hits the ground running on the left and Greenwood keeps performing as he finished last season? Rashford would have his work cut out to get back in.
 

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So it appears his apparent operation hasn’t been confirmed but who has briefed this to the press last week??

We have been hearing about this operation for so bloody long and it begs the question if this is going to happen and most importantly is it really needed?
 

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He needs to do this.

He had a difficult tournament with England (on a personal level, not the team) and clearly struggled towards the end of last season.

If we get Sancho, then we shouldn't miss him too much and he can go and get himself sorted, physically and emotionally, coming back into the fold and ready to blast it before the busy Christmas period.

This is a young man that has been in the squad since a young age, barely had a rest and his body is clearly suffering. It would be eminently sensible not to keep kicking this can down the road and get it sorted ASAP. Now is the right time, especially if Sancho comes in.

Look after yourself Marcus, don't burn out. For our sake and your own.
 

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Actually what is the problem with his shoulder? Anyone got any information?

Anyway if an op is best for his long term career, he should do it, especially for a young player.
 

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He needs to do this.

He had a difficult tournament with England (on a personal level, not the team) and clearly struggled towards the end of last season.

If we get Sancho, then we shouldn't miss him too much and he can go and get himself sorted, physically and emotionally, coming back into the fold and ready to blast it before the busy Christmas period.

This is a young man that has been in the squad since a young age, barely had a rest and his body is clearly suffering. It would be eminently sensible not to keep kicking this can down the road and get it sorted ASAP. Now is the right time, especially if Sancho comes in.

Look after yourself Marcus, don't burn out. For our sake and your own.
I agree with this. Shoulder aside, a month or two resting up could do him a power of good. I remember Ronaldo’s United career kicked up a notch after Fergie let him take some time off mid-season.
 

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Get the surgery. Relax. Stunt on the gram, and then vamos
 

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TBH he needs a big rest. Much longer than a summer holiday. He has been worked to the bone in the last four or five years.
 

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He has to get it, I hope the consideration isnt the impact of missing him for the first 3 months. He will be missed but we have back-up for him, we really need him fit and in form. Most people have really forgotten how dangerous he is, his pace, runs, skills, shooting and creative passes are a sight to behold when they come together.
 

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So essentially Ole is pressurising a 23 year old lad with a likely chronic severe rotator cuff or ACJ issue into not having corrective surgery on a buggered shoulder which renders him at 60% of his productive best.

Just so that he’s available for a half dozen games after ole’s spent over £70m on a ready made replacement. Sounds like a great idea.
 

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I'm really not sure why he's confused about having the surgery, he clearly needs it and delaying it can't be good.
 

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Does it matter if Sancho hits the ground running on the left and Greenwood keeps performing as he finished last season? Rashford would have his work cut out to get back in.
Yeah I suppose so. Was just hoping to have the players slot into the positions we need them and hit the ground running.

I’d prefer Greenwood start rotating at the striker position and have Sancho RW. The latter was bought for that position.
 

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So essentially Ole is pressurising a 23 year old lad with a likely chronic severe rotator cuff or ACJ issue into not having corrective surgery on a buggered shoulder which renders him at 60% of his productive best.

Just so that he’s available for a half dozen games after ole’s spent over £70m on a ready made replacement. Sounds like a great idea.
Weird assumptions on your part there. If you had watched Rashford this season, you would not be saying so.
 

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So essentially Ole is pressurising a 23 year old lad with a likely chronic severe rotator cuff or ACJ issue into not having corrective surgery on a buggered shoulder which renders him at 60% of his productive best.

Just so that he’s available for a half dozen games after ole’s spent over £70m on a ready made replacement. Sounds like a great idea.
What a weird post.
 

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So essentially Ole is pressurising a 23 year old lad with a likely chronic severe rotator cuff or ACJ issue into not having corrective surgery on a buggered shoulder which renders him at 60% of his productive best.

Just so that he’s available for a half dozen games after ole’s spent over £70m on a ready made replacement. Sounds like a great idea.
seriously these new posters just get more and more terrible
 

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Just do it. Just the niggling idea of having to 'protect his shoulder' means that mentally he'll always be holding back
 

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Yeah I suppose so. Was just hoping to have the players slot into the positions we need them and hit the ground running.

I’d prefer Greenwood start rotating at the striker position and have Sancho RW. The latter was bought for that position.
Yeh that’s a fair point. Maybe we should hope that Martial gets going and plays on the left again of Rashford is out allowing Greenwood to move up up and Sancho to stay on the right. The great news is we really do have some exceptional options this season. Really hope Greenwood kicks on and has a massive season.
 

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Get both the shoulder and ankle sorted, even if he missed an entire season it would be worth it for him to not end up like Michael Owen at 27.
 

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Yeh that’s a fair point. Maybe we should hope that Martial gets going and plays on the left again of Rashford is out allowing Greenwood to move up up and Sancho to stay on the right. The great news is we really do have some exceptional options this season. Really hope Greenwood kicks on and has a massive season.
Yeah the options we have now are excellent, I’m also desperate Mason has a massive season.

I hope he’s learning as much as he can from Cavani whilst he here.
 
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So essentially Ole is pressurising a 23 year old lad with a likely chronic severe rotator cuff or ACJ issue into not having corrective surgery on a buggered shoulder which renders him at 60% of his productive best.

Just so that he’s available for a half dozen games after ole’s spent over £70m on a ready made replacement. Sounds like a great idea.
What do you get when you combine a newbie and a Liverpool fan?

Your post.
 

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It's absolutely the best time to get the surgery, rather than risk making it worse and a longer future recovery period.

Get yourself patched up Rashy, need you at your best and not playing thru pain barrier.
 

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I imagine he’s getting it done, Ole is just using this “reflect” narrative to let him have a holiday in peace without people asking in October/November why he didn’t have the operation straight after the Euros and went on Holiday instead.
 

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Rashford should get the operation over with, it's the best time at the start and we have the cover. We need a flying Rashford terrorizing from the left, not the one we saw in the second half of the season hampered for all of next.
 

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So essentially Ole is pressurising a 23 year old lad with a likely chronic severe rotator cuff or ACJ issue into not having corrective surgery on a buggered shoulder which renders him at 60% of his productive best.

Just so that he’s available for a half dozen games after ole’s spent over £70m on a ready made replacement. Sounds like a great idea.
Wow, that's reaching. Where the hell did you get that from?
 

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He did use him and if someone got injured he'd have used him more.
Barely. Come on.

If someone got injured he could have used Grealish, Saka and Sancho, who were on the bench anyway. Considering Foden, Sterling were the preferred wingers.

We can do mental gymnastics and say "Yeah Rashford was needed if----". But considering England's huge squad depth in attack, and Rashford being off form and carrying injuries and being 4-5th choice winger, he should have just gotten the surgery.
 

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I dont blame Rashford. I blame Southgate for not letting him know that he didnt plan on using him. England's attack was spoilt for riches, would have easily managed without him.
He did know, but he has an athletes mentality. He will always back himself to make his way in, even if he isn't the first choice - as he should. The average guy wouldn't be able to relate.
 

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He did know, but he has an athletes mentality. He will always back himself to make his way in, even if he isn't the first choice - as he should. The average guy wouldn't be able to relate.
If he was fit, I would have no problem. Ofcourse he should back himself. But knowing his form, and his multiple injuries, he should have done the smart thing.

Its the same with Ole/Rashford's insistence on playing when injured. Its not "brave" or "tough". Its stupid. And bad for the team.
 

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It is funny that last season Pogba went and had his operation and that was contrary to the advice given by the Utd staff and yet Ole was fine with him doing it and in hindsight it was the right move.
Stevie Wonder can see that Marcus is not right and I hope he does what is right for him as that will be the right thing for the club.
 

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It is funny that last season Pogba went and had his operation and that was contrary to the advice given by the Utd staff and yet Ole was fine with him doing it and in hindsight it was the right move.
Stevie Wonder can see that Marcus is not right and I hope he does what is right for him as that will be the right thing for the club.
Yup. If it's even a question, he should have it. He has along career ahead of him, no reason to worry about a few months.
 

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Looks to me as if the club might not be convinced he needs it. It would certainly be logically consistent with the fact the medical staff also didn’t think he needed to miss any game time and why England’s medical staff thought he was ok to travel to the Euros and presumably be available to play every game should that have been Southgate‘s wish.

It’s not a huge conspiracy to suggest these aren’t the actions of top physios with a player carrying injury or injuries they’re strongly recommending need surgery.
 

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Looks to me as if the club might not be convinced he needs it. It would certainly be logically consistent with the fact the medical staff also didn’t think he needed to miss any game time and why England’s medical staff thought he was ok to travel to the Euros and presumably be available to play every game should that have been Southgate‘s wish.

It’s not a huge conspiracy to suggest these aren’t the actions of top physios with a player carrying injury or injuries they’re strongly recommending need surgery.
But then I'd this is true, then what would explain the dramatic decline in Rashford's mobility from being one of the most explosive players in the world to basically playing like a lamp post.
 

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This should have been done end of the season, if its that serious.
Why risk injuring it more playing for England? If it was because he thought he was missing out, then a simple phone call to Southgate as am I a main man or just a sub with a few mins here and there, would have made this decision easy.
Saying that though, why the hesitation now? Surely if its as serious as reported there shouldnt be any doubt about having it.
 

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Best just nip these injuries in the bud.

Can't go on playing in discomfort.

Young man potentially still has 5-10 years playing at a high level...