Like we're just going to half our asking price, what does that make us look like? Incompetent idiots, thats what.Just going to loan him out until his contract runs out and he can walk on a free? I would go as low as 20. It's all psr profit right? Get his wages off the books. This isn't the Antony or Sancho situations where they need to sell at at certain price right?
Because getting something is better than nothing. He is pure profit. Whatever little helps. We’ve made mistakes. Hopefully we just learn from it and not offer £350k wages per week going forward.Like we're just going to half our asking price, what does that make us look like? Incompetent idiots, thats what.
How could we negotiate with other clubs for other players like Antony and Garnacho, when they see is halving asking prices for other players at the drop of a hat.
Or he performs well and in turn generates buyers a la Antony. Villa paid 225k of his 300k weekly wage per google surely that's better than nothing. clearing 200k+ a week and potentially getting a buyer from the loan works for everyone.That makes no sense. His value will keep dropping. We need to sell him by lowering his asking price for at least £30m so it ll help with PSR.
And we are repeating this same mistake with another player this summer.We really should have sold him after his last good season. We need to be timing these things well. Now, it seems we can't sell him for anything reasonable at 27 years old. Something is out of whack.
It's made worse that he clearly has someone out of his depth representing him. I don't know why players hire their families as agents. Nothing seems to be moving on this front.
We already sent him on loan and it didn’t go great. I would rather cut our losses, get him off our books than hope he goes somewhere and suddenly scores 30 goals and wait for a team to offer £50m next summer. Too many ifs and buts. I’d take £25-30m this summer.Or he performs well and in turn generates buyers a la Antony. Villa paid 225k of his 300k weekly wage per google surely that's better than nothing. clearing 200k+ a week and potentially getting a buyer from the loan works for everyone.
How can you have this take here and not have the same feeling towards Garnacho?And we are repeating this same mistake with another player this summer.
The way we handled him from the moment Ole joined was a masterclass on how to build an undeserved ego in a B- tier player. We made him feel world class and he's not stopped believing he is since then.
His injury at the end of the season has fecked us. If Villa made CL or won the Cup he no doubt would have been a part of that but he got injured just as he was starting to be more impactful.
No it isn't, it shows we have absolutely no backbone in negotiations if we're just going to half our asking price at the first hurdle.Because getting something is better than nothing. He is pure profit. Whatever little helps. We’ve made mistakes. Hopefully we just learn from it and not offer £350k wages per week going forward.
I agree. Also note that if invested well an extra 25m-30m could be the difference between European cup qualifications or not, a CL qualification or an Europa league qualificationWe already sent him on loan and it didn’t go great. I would rather cut our losses, get him off our books than hope he goes somewhere and suddenly scores 30 goals and wait for a team to offer £50m next summer. Too many ifs and buts. I’d take £25-30m this summer.
The loan went decent, could have been better if he wasn't playing catch up at the beginning and didn't pick up a injury towards the end but all in all he was ok. Did well enough against PSG in the 2nd leg, and looked good enough in the league to warrant a England call up and have Barcelona seemingly interested.We already sent him on loan and it didn’t go great. I would rather cut our losses, get him off our books than hope he goes somewhere and suddenly scores 30 goals and wait for a team to offer £50m next summer. Too many ifs and buts. I’d take £25-30m this summer.
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The loan went decent, could have been better if he wasn't playing catch up at the beginning and didn't pick up a injury towards the end but all in all he was ok. Did well enough against PSG in the 2nd leg, and looked good enough in the league to warrant a England call up and have Barcelona seemingly interested.
I have no problem with Garnacho being benched, disciplined or being forced to track back. I just don't want him sold.How can you have this take here and not have the same feeling towards Garnacho?
Didn't Deco come out and say something about him?Jordan Henderson has been earning England call-ups. I really wouldn't read anything into that.
Also, are Barca actually interested in Rashford, or is Rashford interested in Barca?
So what do you think that's going to do him if he's able to publicly shit on 2 managers in a row and the club do nothing about it?I have no problem with Garnacho being benched, disciplined or being forced to track back. I just don't want him sold.
Rashford was given the No.10, exorbitant wages, made the face of the team and allowed to play as he pleased. There was zero accountability for Rashford's poor performances under Ole, he was guaranteed a start and 90mins no matter what.
Garnacho was an egomaniac and Ronaldo wannabee from the moment he came through. Rashford was actually a very humble kid when he came through, what he turned into was the club's making.
We don’t hold any leverage. It’s our own mistake. It’s stupid to hold out for £50m or whatever you think he is worth by hoping someone would come in for him.No it isn't, it shows we have absolutely no backbone in negotiations if we're just going to half our asking price at the first hurdle.
We cannot have it both way in criticising the club for not getting good fees for our players and then claim we should drop our asking price by half.
We need to stick to our asking price and learn how to be a competent football club again.
He got called up for one squad and that was his first England lineup. He won’t make the squad to go to the WC. Doing “well enough” isn’t going to get us anywhere. When on loan only stats matter.The loan went decent, could have been better if he wasn't playing catch up at the beginning and didn't pick up an injury towards the end but all in all he was ok. Did well enough against PSG in the 2nd leg, and looked good enough in the league to warrant an England call up and have Barcelona seemingly interested.
Didn't Deco come out and say something about him?
Ok. Guess we'll see.He was asked about Diaz and Rashford and gave an incredibly nothing response that was basically, "we like both players and lots of other players but can't talk about players under contract elsewhere".
This just misunderstands why we are bad at selling. It's generally not because we are not sticking to our asking price. It's because we have players on salaries that far outweigh what anyone else will pay and were often signed for inflated fees. We can stick to high asking prices but it's not going to help us we will just be stuck woth players who are ostracised and on massive wagesNo it isn't, it shows we have absolutely no backbone in negotiations if we're just going to half our asking price at the first hurdle.
We cannot have it both way in criticising the club for not getting good fees for our players and then claim we should drop our asking price by half.
We need to stick to our asking price and learn how to be a competent football club again.
Guess we'll see. He seemed far more motivated at Villa then he has for us for years so if he does manage to get a loan with potential of a WC spot up for grabs and a Barcelona move I'm sure it add extra incentives.He got called up for one squad and that was his first England lineup. He won’t make the squad to go to the WC. Doing “well enough” isn’t going to get us anywhere. When on loan only stats matter.
It's Flick who reportedly wants him, Deco wanted Luis Diaz but Liverpool aren't sellingDidn't Deco come out and say something about him?
Rashford is half the transfer fee but double the wage.It's Flick who reportedly wants him, Deco wanted Luis Diaz but Liverpool aren't selling
They aren't paying any fee for himRashford is half the transfer fee but double the wage.
Ridiculous.
Rashford is half the transfer fee but double the wage.
It should not be a transfer fee issue.Because there is basically no market for a sale.
Well that is the problem, he wants to keep his wages and we can only loan him out while his value keeps dropping and we need to pay part of his wage year after year, you dont see a problem with that?Why? He's more than likely planning to be involved in the WC so he's going to need football and he's not getting game time here so he's obviously got to leave. Probably won't be a permanent but he won't be here come the season starting.
Barca and Rashford are gonna to take the piss out of United this summer.
Ooofff!Feels like it, I'm going to black Rashford thoughts out of my off season muppetry.
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Rashford had some momentum at Villa and the team said they were interested in buying him. Then he got injured and everything went quiet.We already sent him on loan and it didn’t go great. I would rather cut our losses, get him off our books than hope he goes somewhere and suddenly scores 30 goals and wait for a team to offer £50m next summer. Too many ifs and buts. I’d take £25-30m this summer.
Nobody's going to pay anywhere near what we are asking. And his salary is also a big problem. He's currently like 20-30M/100kpw player.Ridiculous.
Simon Jordan actually got something right. We either hold out for top value and pay him off to cover wages…or we sell at low value to get his wages off the booksWe don’t hold any leverage. It’s our own mistake. It’s stupid to hold out for £50m or whatever you think he is worth by hoping someone would come in for him.
Yep not only will we gain transfer fees we get his huge salary of the books so we might end up saving another £12-15m from wages alone. No brainer.I agree. Also note that if invested well an extra 25m-30m could be the difference between European cup qualifications or not, a CL qualification or an Europa league qualification
No point in having talent if you don’t work hard. If he was a helluva of a player clubs would be clamoring to sign him since he is available for cheap.Rashford had some momentum at Villa and the team said they were interested in buying him. Then he got injured and everything went quiet.
He has tons of talent. Somebody is going to buy low on him and have a hell of a good player.
