Rashford

Should we sell or reintegrate Rashford to the United squad?


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We really should have sold him after his last good season. We need to be timing these things well. Now, it seems we can't sell him for anything reasonable at 27 years old. Something is out of whack.

It's made worse that he clearly has someone out of his depth representing him. I don't know why players hire their families as agents. Nothing seems to be moving on this front.

No way. Without hindsight there'll be protest selling our (then) golden boy.

He had us by the balls during contract deals. At best we can maybe offer him 250k per week

Hindsight is 20/20
 
He wants to be the big fish without doing the work. If he was on the pitch he would walk around. If he was on the bench he'd be sending WhatsApp to Henry Winter who'd just happen to bump into him at his old school again.
It did make me laugh Henry Winter reporting EXACTLY how many presents he gave out on the last PR assault
 
We really should have sold him after his last good season. We need to be timing these things well. Now, it seems we can't sell him for anything reasonable at 27 years old. Something is out of whack.

It's made worse that he clearly has someone out of his depth representing him. I don't know why players hire their families as agents. Nothing seems to be moving on this front.
Come on man you dont sell someone who just scored 30 goals in a season. This was also 2 years ago when he was around 24-25ish. We all thought he was coming into his prime.
 
Will be a last minute loan deal with no obligation to buy from some premier league club again. He can want Barcelona all he wants but they clearly don’t want him as much as he wants them.

I said from the start that contract the club gave him was one of the worse decisions in the last decade of bad decisions this club has made.
 
Will be a last minute loan deal with no obligation to buy from some premier league club again. He can want Barcelona all he wants but they clearly don’t want him as much as he wants them.

I said from the start that contract the club gave him was one of the worse decisions in the last decade of bad decisions this club has made.
Even a loan deal not many club could afford 350k a week. I think we need to pay majority of his salary for the loan.

If I'm not wrong we paid 50% of Sancho salary for him to play for Chelsea.

Ed, Arnold and Murtough really destroyed us.
 
Even a loan deal not many club could afford 350k a week. I think we need to pay majority of his salary for the loan.

If I'm not wrong we paid 50% of Sancho salary for him to play for Chelsea.

Ed, Ethl, Arnold and Murtough really destroyed us.
FTFY.
 
We've had supposed winners. BFS. Casemiro. Varane. Etc.

Didnt do us any good. No winning mentality imparted. No pride in the pitch we let half the teams walks over us.

Seen more passion from academy players than these lots
Bore off
 
Why Barcelona doesn't want him? He was good once and he also give presents to children at times
 
Why Barcelona doesn't want him? He was good once and he also give presents to children at times
They are a basket case of a club. Still have financial issues, have ralphina who plays off the left but seem to want luiz diaz who's 28 and won't have resell value. For the same sort of price Raphael Leao is now apparently available. Or you could try for Nico Williams.

It's more of a case of rashford wanting Barcelona than they wanting him. If they come in for him, I reckon it will on or around deadline day. Low ball Utd on wages with a straightforward loan with no obligation and hope Utd are desperate to get him out.
 
They are a basket case of a club. Still have financial issues, have ralphina who plays off the left but seem to want luiz diaz who's 28 and won't have resell value. For the same sort of price Raphael Leao is now apparently available. Or you could try for Nico Williams.

It's more of a case of rashford wanting Barcelona than they wanting him. If they come in for him, I reckon it will on or around deadline day. Low ball Utd on wages with a straightforward loan with no obligation and hope Utd are desperate to get him out.

Isn't Rafael Leao actually a bit crap?

Diaz is a really good player.
 
They are a basket case of a club. Still have financial issues, have ralphina who plays off the left but seem to want luiz diaz who's 28 and won't have resell value. For the same sort of price Raphael Leao is now apparently available. Or you could try for Nico Williams.

It's more of a case of rashford wanting Barcelona than they wanting him. If they come in for him, I reckon it will on or around deadline day. Low ball Utd on wages with a straightforward loan with no obligation and hope Utd are desperate to get him out.

I love Manchester United but if I was the owner of a foreign club I wouldn't want him anywhere close to my squad. He's a one trick pony on silly salaries who doesn't put enough effort on the pitch and whose focus lies elsewhere. The last thing I would want is for my high salaried player to be feckin drinking at a pub at the other end of the world mid way to the season making the club and the manager look like fools.
 
He is!
He's physically impressive but has always seemed limited technically
I think he is more lazy than technically limited. When he wants to he has good technique but he seems to play the game in second gear most times
 
I tried to google and search through this forum, but what was the initialt reason for him to leave for Villa? Was it that Amorim didn't want him? Or that Rashford didn't like Amorim? So much have happend since so it's hard to remember.

But if we can't sell him, he must be a better alternative then Højlund? If he really doesn't want to stay, then he must be the one to accept a pay cut? All this things about loans and half payed wages and such always feel like an easy solution to don't have a grown up discussion.
Amorim said that he wouldn’t pick him whilst he wasn’t putting in the work required in training. Rashford then came out and said he was ready for a new challenge away from United. So he’d rather leave United than try to help. Not the type of person I’d want among the squad spreading bad attitude.
 
I think he is more lazy than technically limited. When he wants to he has good technique but he seems to play the game in second gear most times
Rafael Leao? Didn't realise.
For Portugal though, he does seem to try but while he brings pace and running to the party, there's not a lot of finesse to it.
 
Amorim said that he wouldn’t pick him whilst he wasn’t putting in the work required in training. Rashford then came out and said he was ready for a new challenge away from United. So he’d rather leave United than try to help. Not the type of person I’d want among the squad spreading bad attitude.
Thanks - now I remember. Not a person you want for sure!
 
They are a basket case of a club. Still have financial issues, have ralphina who plays off the left but seem to want luiz diaz who's 28 and won't have resell value. For the same sort of price Raphael Leao is now apparently available. Or you could try for Nico Williams.

It's more of a case of rashford wanting Barcelona than they wanting him. If they come in for him, I reckon it will on or around deadline day. Low ball Utd on wages with a straightforward loan with no obligation and hope Utd are desperate to get him out.
Leao is rubbish literally Rashford mark 2, he’ll run when he feels like it
 
Amorim said that he wouldn’t pick him whilst he wasn’t putting in the work required in training. Rashford then came out and said he was ready for a new challenge away from United. So he’d rather leave United than try to help. Not the type of person I’d want among the squad spreading bad attitude.
Didn't he even call in sick for training after being dropped from the squad for one game, only to immediatly attend a PR event the next day during which he gave that interview? Or am I remembering that incorrectly?
 
Imagine Rashford, Sancho and Casimero gone. The wage discussion would be so different. Then lets hope we never put ourself in that position again.
Let’s not forget Muttley only shows up for a medal, always sneaking under the radar, his last contract was criminal, I think he’s played less than Sancho…for us.
 
Amorim said that he wouldn’t pick him whilst he wasn’t putting in the work required in training

Sounds like Rashford did put the work in but Amorim decided not to play him anyway. I can't seriously understand how some users on here think Rashford would be left out of the team for 2months +, train with the team everyday yet refuse to put in the required work/fight for his place. Amorim just wanted him gone and did whatever he could to kick him out. Whatever his reasons were, they're known to him alone because the not training properly angle is bullsh*t.
Some people would rather believe that Rashford just randomly gave up on Utd one day. Like randomly in November 2024 he decided he'd had enough, instead of the club/new manager actively working together to kick him out. Even when we started our horrible run under Amorim with Højlund being unable to get a shot on target and Garnacho being unable to score in an open net, he had Rashford available, fit and training everyday yet chose to endure the horrible results rather than try playing him.
 
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Sounds like Rashford did put the work in but Amorim decided not to play him anyway. I can't seriously understand how some users on here think Rashford would be left out of the team for 2months +, train with the team everyday yet refuse to put in the required work/fight for his place. Amorim just wanted him gone and did whatever he could to kick him out. Whatever his reasons were, they're known to him alone because the not training properly angle is bullsh*t.


Yeah apparently he was one of the best trainers in the squad. He used to put in hours of extra training every single day, even before matches he would hit the gym for 4-5 hours. Just an absolute beast.

Unfortunately it means he was absolutely exhausted during games and used to walk around on the pitch, shirk tackles, didn’t have the energy to track back and only had enough energy to pretend he was pressing.

It’s really unfortunate because we only get to see the matches we don’t get to see the unbelievable work he was putting in everywhere else.
 
Yeah apparently he was one of the best trainers in the squad. He used to put in hours of extra training every single day, even before matches he would hit the gym for 4-5 hours. Just an absolute beast.

Unfortunately it means he was absolutely exhausted during games and used to walk around on the pitch, shirk tackles, didn’t have the energy to track back and only had enough energy to pretend he was pressing.

It’s really unfortunate because we only get to see the matches we don’t get to see the unbelievable work he was putting in everywhere else.
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Rashford is a top player, when on form. The only thing with him is, he is what i call a 'TV player'. When the big matches comes along he is all action, but every other week he disapears for the majority of the match. His time at Villa says the same. If we can build a team around him and he gained consistancy he is a great player to have. But clearly cashing 30-40 million pounds on him is probably better for our long term future.
 
Yeah apparently he was one of the best trainers in the squad. He used to put in hours of extra training every single day, even before matches he would hit the gym for 4-5 hours. Just an absolute beast.

Unfortunately it means he was absolutely exhausted during games and used to walk around on the pitch, shirk tackles, didn’t have the energy to track back and only had enough energy to pretend he was pressing.

It’s really unfortunate because we only get to see the matches we don’t get to see the unbelievable work he was putting in everywhere else.
He used to run marathons from Manchester to America, took a short break while watching some basketball and then ran back to Manchester again. Can’t really blame the guy for being so exhausted during games. fecking club being so stingy to buy the poor kid some air tickets
 
Yeah apparently he was one of the best trainers in the squad. He used to put in hours of extra training every single day, even before matches he would hit the gym for 4-5 hours. Just an absolute beast.

Unfortunately it means he was absolutely exhausted during games and used to walk around on the pitch, shirk tackles, didn’t have the energy to track back and only had enough energy to pretend he was pressing.

It’s really unfortunate because we only get to see the matches we don’t get to see the unbelievable work he was putting in everywhere else.
When you're done flailing around without saying anything in particular, would you be kind enough to actually address what I posted? It's a common/very prevalent belief in this forum that Rashford was kicked out because he wasn't trying hard enough in training. I posted a video of the manager saying otherwise, Rashford was actually doing everything to get back into the team, the manager just didn't want him to. Goes against the narrative that he's the lazy sort who wouldn't even try in training and gave up on the club mid-season eh?

I can also post another very edifying video where Amorim says that in fact Rashford was training well. That was just shortly after the City game btw. Maybe your post was meant to be humorous, that must be it because it's so far removed from fact that it's almost laughable. Almost.
 
Rash has been a lazy ass on the pitch for alot longer than Ruben has been managing us.
 

Sounds like Rashford did put the work in but Amorim decided not to play him anyway. I can't seriously understand how some users on here think Rashford would be left out of the team for 2months +, train with the team everyday yet refuse to put in the required work/fight for his place. Amorim just wanted him gone and did whatever he could to kick him out. Whatever his reasons were, they're known to him alone because the not training properly angle is bullsh*t.
Some people would rather believe that Rashford just randomly gave up on Utd one day. Like randomly in November 2024 he decided he'd had enough, instead of the club/new manager actively working together to kick him out. Even when we started our horrible run under Amorim with Højlund being unable to get a shot on target and Garnacho being unable to score in an open net, he had Rashford available, fit and training everyday yet chose to endure the horrible results rather than try playing him.

There’s other clips from pre-matches where he clearly stated that he wasn’t putting the required effort in

Then Rashford said he wanted to leave

I don’t understand why people want a player like that around the squad and constantly try to find excuses for him. He’s had years to prove himself. But he’d rather go drinking in Belfast
 
When you're done flailing around without saying anything in particular, would you be kind enough to actually address what I posted? It's a common/very prevalent belief in this forum that Rashford was kicked out because he wasn't trying hard enough in training. I posted a video of the manager saying otherwise, Rashford was actually doing everything to get back into the team, the manager just didn't want him to. Goes against the narrative that he's the lazy sort who wouldn't even try in training and gave up on the club mid-season eh?

I can also post another very edifying video where Amorim says that in fact Rashford was training well. That was just shortly after the City game btw. Maybe your post was meant to be humorous, that must be it because it's so far removed from fact that it's almost laughable. Almost.
What is it with this cult of Rashford on here trying to defend him and make him look like the innocent party?
 

Sounds like Rashford did put the work in but Amorim decided not to play him anyway. I can't seriously understand how some users on here think Rashford would be left out of the team for 2months +, train with the team everyday yet refuse to put in the required work/fight for his place. Amorim just wanted him gone and did whatever he could to kick him out. Whatever his reasons were, they're known to him alone because the not training properly angle is bullsh*t.
Some people would rather believe that Rashford just randomly gave up on Utd one day. Like randomly in November 2024 he decided he'd had enough, instead of the club/new manager actively working together to kick him out. Even when we started our horrible run under Amorim with Højlund being unable to get a shot on target and Garnacho being unable to score in an open net, he had Rashford available, fit and training everyday yet chose to endure the horrible results rather than try playing him.


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Amorim trying to set standards and Rashford didn’t want to meet them.

Oh let’s not forget his shenanigans under ETH too. Like when he was caught out partying in Belfast and called in sick the next day

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/marcu...ning-illness-erik-ten-hag/blt246273ac3721d0d1

Rashford is and was the problem. Instead of being professional and knuckling down, he chose to leave. He is the problem no matter how you want to spin it
 
When you're done flailing around without saying anything in particular, would you be kind enough to actually address what I posted? It's a common/very prevalent belief in this forum that Rashford was kicked out because he wasn't trying hard enough in training. I posted a video of the manager saying otherwise, Rashford was actually doing everything to get back into the team, the manager just didn't want him to. Goes against the narrative that he's the lazy sort who wouldn't even try in training and gave up on the club mid-season eh?

I can also post another very edifying video where Amorim says that in fact Rashford was training well. That was just shortly after the City game btw. Maybe your post was meant to be humorous, that must be it because it's so far removed from fact that it's almost laughable. Almost.

Firstly, you have no idea what was going on behind the scenes and in training. "Rashford was doing everything to get back into the team"? How do you know? Because Amorim was doing his diplomatic press conferences??

The manager sees 99% more of what goes on with players than we do. You either trust the manager or trust the player. As fans we saw Rashford play in matches and we came to the same conclusion. Going on benders to Ireland didn't help either.
 
Rashford and Garnacho were both dropped for off field issues at the same time I think. One knuckled down and was brought back in, one went running to the press saying how he wanted to leave. Its crazy he still has fans defending him.
 
The manager sees 99% more of what goes on with players than we do. You either trust the manager or trust the player.
The same way we trusted Ten Hag and ended up in the current situation? Managers are not infaillible gods. If we had continued trusting Ten Hag, Amad would be on his way out with Antony still hanging around contributing nothing.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16hbHuAhjw/?mibextid=wwXIfr



Amorim trying to set standards and Rashford didn’t want to meet them.

Oh let’s not forget his shenanigans under ETH too. Like when he was caught out partying in Belfast and called in sick the next day

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/marcu...ning-illness-erik-ten-hag/blt246273ac3721d0d1

Rashford is and was the problem. Instead of being professional and knuckling down, he chose to leave. He is the problem no matter how you want to spin it

A proper response instead of accusing others of being in a cult or posting long winded nonsense trying to be funny. I don't agree with most of what you've posted but I do see your angle. Amorim was trying to set standards, that's fine. He called out the player, left him out of the squad, that's fine too. According to Amorim himself Rashford then tried to apply himself in training to match Amorim's demands and generally kept himself available to be called back into the squad. The fact here is that no matter what Rashford did, Amorim would've never called him back into the squad. It didn't matter whether he played the best in training or not, the manager wanted him out.

He didn't decide to leave, Amorim basically told him to. How else would you explain him training from December - February without getting a single game? It's not like the team were flying high winning game after game. Isn't that the clearest example of a player being pushed out? People often point to the interview he did but Henry Winter admitted that the club was well aware of the interview, Rashford didn't go rogue and ask to leave the club. At that point he wasn't playing and had been banished anyway and if you think he hadn't understood that it was over at that point he'd have to been very naive. He was already out at that point, the interview was just him making it public. For some reason all hell broke loose after that interview, somehow fans didn't realize that Amorim banning Rashford from the team was never meant to be a temporary thing. Well Rashford is no longer a Utd player. Hope we get a good fee and he can go continue his career elsewhere.
 
The same way we trusted Ten Hag and ended up in the current situation? Managers are not infaillible gods. If we had continued trusting Ten Hag, Amad would be on his way out with Antony still hanging around contributing nothing.

A proper response instead of accusing others of being in a cult or posting long winded nonsense trying to be funny. I don't agree with most of what you've posted but I do see your angle. Amorim was trying to set standards, that's fine. He called out the player, left him out of the squad, that's fine too. According to Amorim himself Rashford then tried to apply himself in training to match Amorim's demands and generally kept himself available to be called back into the squad. The fact here is that no matter what Rashford did, Amorim would've never called him back into the squad. It didn't matter whether he played the best in training or not, the manager wanted him out.

He didn't decide to leave, Amorim basically told him to. How else would you explain him training from December - February without getting a single game? It's not like the team were flying high winning game after game. Isn't that the clearest example of a player being pushed out? People often point to the interview he did but Henry Winter admitted that the club was well aware of the interview, Rashford didn't go rogue and ask to leave the club. At that point he wasn't playing and had been banished anyway and if you think he hadn't understood that it was over at that point he'd have to been very naive. He was already out at that point, the interview was just him making it public. For some reason all hell broke loose after that interview, somehow fans didn't realize that Amorim banning Rashford from the team was never meant to be a temporary thing. Well Rashford is no longer a Utd player. Hope we get a good fee and he can go continue his career elsewhere.
Marcus mate, all this effort to persuade us could be used to persuade Barcelona to actually spend money on you
 
Marcus mate, all this effort to persuade us could be used to persuade Barcelona to actually spend money on you
Don't worry about that, I've already got you down as a complete waste of time to interact with. That's what now, 2-3 posts trying to sound clever or funny and failing miserably at both? Your delivery could be better you know.
 
Don't worry about that, I've already got you down as a complete waste of time to interact with. That's what now, 2-3 posts trying to sound clever or funny and failing miserably at both? Your delivery could be better you know.
2-3? Closer to 75,000
 
For me I think Amorim came in and had watched some of our matches beforehand to get an idea. Probably sat down with Rashford and tried to sell him on how important it is to have all the attackers working hard off the ball.

I don't actually think Rashford is a bad lad, I imagine in part he's just lost a lot of passion for the game after so many peaks and valleys here, always another rebuild. He handled it the total wrong way and that's that really.
 
Well I'm shocked, they don't want to pay £40m and his stupidly high wages? :eek:

Almost like he's not worth it, another great decision from ETH. Woodward and whoever else made the decision to give him this contract, that still haunts us.
Plenty of people here who supported that decision too. I was given shit for saying he should only be renewed if he was taking a pay cut.
 
Come on man you dont sell someone who just scored 30 goals in a season. This was also 2 years ago when he was around 24-25ish. We all thought he was coming into his prime.
You do because if you look at his actual performances, he was terrible and was a passenger for every game.

His technique was sloppy and relied heavily on his athleticism. Add that to his laziness and unwillingness to fight for the ball, it was very clear he needed to leave.

But people just looked at his goals and academy player status and decided we should renew.