Rashford

Should we sell or reintegrate Rashford to the United squad?

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The Athletic reported that every single manager has had a problem with Rashford and yet people here are still trying to defend him.

That's LVG, Jose, Ralf, Ole, ETH, Amorin - for context.

What's more, we've seen it on the pitch for years. Aside from his purple patches, he trots around putting absolute zero effort into pressing or tracking. Not only is the evidence in front of our eyes but it's been confirmed behind the scenes. If you still support him and you don't believe your own eyes or the people who manage him, then no amount of proof will convince you.
 
iHicksy said:
The Athletic reported that every single manager has had a problem with Rashford and yet people here are still trying to defend him.

That's LVG, Jose, Ralf, Ole, ETH, Amorin - for context.
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It's modern fanboism.
We've seen it played out pathetically with Messi and Ronaldo.
 
TempusFugit said:

Sounds like Rashford did put the work in but Amorim decided not to play him anyway. I can't seriously understand how some users on here think Rashford would be left out of the team for 2months +, train with the team everyday yet refuse to put in the required work/fight for his place. Amorim just wanted him gone and did whatever he could to kick him out. Whatever his reasons were, they're known to him alone because the not training properly angle is bullsh*t.
Some people would rather believe that Rashford just randomly gave up on Utd one day. Like randomly in November 2024 he decided he'd had enough, instead of the club/new manager actively working together to kick him out. Even when we started our horrible run under Amorim with Højlund being unable to get a shot on target and Garnacho being unable to score in an open net, he had Rashford available, fit and training everyday yet chose to endure the horrible results rather than try playing him.
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He may have wanted to play, but to play you have to put in the work. He clearly was not.

‘Did put the work in’? Where did you make that up from, because it’s not from the video you posted.
 
iHicksy said:
The Athletic reported that every single manager has had a problem with Rashford and yet people here are still trying to defend him.

That's LVG, Jose, Ralf, Ole, ETH, Amorin - for context.
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Is it any surprise?

Say what you like but he's a local lad, we watched him go through the academy to scoring hat-tricks in the Champions League and rattling in 30 goals in a season. We saw him do some lovely things off the pitch too and I imagine he must be our top scorer since Sir Alex retired.

It's no shock that there is still a bit of warmth harboured for him even if it's annoying. I'm done with him at this point but I still can't bring myself to truly dislike the lad even if I know I probably should.
 
to be fair to get his wages off of the books plus any fee would be good business at this point, which is mad to think how far he’s fallen over the past few years.
 
Baneofthegame said:
to be fair to get his wages off of the books plus any fee would be good business at this point, which is mad to think how far he’s fallen over the past few years.
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You just can't have an underperforming player on those wages. That level of wage is just such a massive risk and we are seeing why.
 
Incredible that anyone would try and defend Rashford's work rate. We don't even need to see it in training, its on display for all to see in his games.
 
quadrant said:
Incredible that anyone would try and defend Rashford's work rate. We don't even need to see it in training, its on display for all to see in his games.
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How can anyone defend this clowns work rate?

Someone post the Ross Barkley GIF with rashford
 
Pexbo said:
Yeah apparently he was one of the best trainers in the squad. He used to put in hours of extra training every single day, even before matches he would hit the gym for 4-5 hours. Just an absolute beast.

Unfortunately it means he was absolutely exhausted during games and used to walk around on the pitch, shirk tackles, didn’t have the energy to track back and only had enough energy to pretend he was pressing.

It’s really unfortunate because we only get to see the matches we don’t get to see the unbelievable work he was putting in everywhere else.
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Bravo sir
 
His work rate is abysmal but it was never a noticable issue until after 2020/21 when he fecked his shoulder and was carrying a lot of injuries. Think back to his debut, he was a livewire doing stepovers, elasticos, nutmegging Demichelis and showing great movement.

Think he played near 60 games that season (2020/21) and 25% of them were carrying a number of injuries. There's some argument that he may be on the decline physically and may be just conserving himself to remain fit.
 
I would just threaten him that if he doesnt try hard with his agent to get a permanent deal, he might as well sit on the bench in the world cup season, should be set as an example. He should go to Aston Villa in return for Martinez and cash. Get into some kind of form. Barca are broke and he wouldn't play there either.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
You just can't have an underperforming player on those wages. That level of wage is just such a massive risk and we are seeing why.
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Our wage bill is significantly reduced already by other outgoings, we have pretty small squad with younsgetrs too. Having Rashford on the wage bill will be pain but no player should be more than a club and he in contrast with Sancho has something to play for..
 
Poborsky's hair said:
Our wage bill is significantly reduced already by other outgoings, we have pretty small squad with younsgetrs too. Having Rashford on the wage bill will be pain but no player should be more than a club and he in contrast with Sancho has something to play for..
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Oh I wasn't even talking about not wanting to keep him on those wages. Just why those wages are a bad idea in general.

I definitely think we need to get rid of him. But with that said, if we can't then I doubt we will be able to sign a striker and I don't think we send him on another loan as that seemed to be basically pointless for us. If we don't get an offer I reckon we see him play for us again.
 
Between him and Sancho, we are paying probably more than 700k a week, an obscene amount of money especially given they are the two laziest players at the club with awful attitudes, the sooner we get rid the better.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
His work rate is abysmal but it was never a noticable issue until after 2020/21 when he fecked his shoulder and was carrying a lot of injuries. Think back to his debut, he was a livewire doing stepovers, elasticos, nutmegging Demichelis and showing great movement.

Think he played near 60 games that season (2020/21) and 25% of them were carrying a number of injuries. There's some argument that he may be on the decline physically and may be just conserving himself to remain fit.
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I agree with you. He’s physically shot. That back injury vs Wolves in 2020 killed his work rate. Nuked it.
 
TempusFugit said:
The same way we trusted Ten Hag and ended up in the current situation? Managers are not infaillible gods. If we had continued trusting Ten Hag, Amad would be on his way out with Antony still hanging around contributing nothing.

A proper response instead of accusing others of being in a cult or posting long winded nonsense trying to be funny. I don't agree with most of what you've posted but I do see your angle. Amorim was trying to set standards, that's fine. He called out the player, left him out of the squad, that's fine too. According to Amorim himself Rashford then tried to apply himself in training to match Amorim's demands and generally kept himself available to be called back into the squad. The fact here is that no matter what Rashford did, Amorim would've never called him back into the squad. It didn't matter whether he played the best in training or not, the manager wanted him out.

He didn't decide to leave, Amorim basically told him to. How else would you explain him training from December - February without getting a single game? It's not like the team were flying high winning game after game. Isn't that the clearest example of a player being pushed out? People often point to the interview he did but Henry Winter admitted that the club was well aware of the interview, Rashford didn't go rogue and ask to leave the club. At that point he wasn't playing and had been banished anyway and if you think he hadn't understood that it was over at that point he'd have to been very naive. He was already out at that point, the interview was just him making it public. For some reason all hell broke loose after that interview, somehow fans didn't realize that Amorim banning Rashford from the team was never meant to be a temporary thing. Well Rashford is no longer a Utd player. Hope we get a good fee and he can go continue his career elsewhere.
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Yeah-pretty much. Football management isn't just about tactics and formations. Man management is just as important, if not more.

I'm not sure why you're bending over backwards to defend Rashford. The video of him in an Irish nighclub wasn't AI and more than likely that was the tip of the iceberg of Rashford's "professional behaviour" at the club.

I am not arguing with you that he was pushed out. Amorim and his staff realised pretty early on that there were issues with Rashford and decided that he'd be better off being elsewhere.

You're defending a player that was clearly not motivated to play for the club even when he was selected. Sometimes that happens in football. I'm not hating on Rashford for that but you need to live with the consequences of your actions.
 
elmo said:
You do because if you look at his actual performances, he was terrible and was a passenger for every game.

His technique was sloppy and relied heavily on his athleticism. Add that to his laziness and unwillingness to fight for the ball, it was very clear he needed to leave.

But people just looked at his goals and academy player status and decided we should renew.
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And did you say this back then?
 
TempusFugit said:

Sounds like Rashford did put the work in but Amorim decided not to play him anyway. I can't seriously understand how some users on here think Rashford would be left out of the team for 2months +, train with the team everyday yet refuse to put in the required work/fight for his place. Amorim just wanted him gone and did whatever he could to kick him out. Whatever his reasons were, they're known to him alone because the not training properly angle is bullsh*t.
Some people would rather believe that Rashford just randomly gave up on Utd one day. Like randomly in November 2024 he decided he'd had enough, instead of the club/new manager actively working together to kick him out. Even when we started our horrible run under Amorim with Højlund being unable to get a shot on target and Garnacho being unable to score in an open net, he had Rashford available, fit and training everyday yet chose to endure the horrible results rather than try playing him.
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I think it's very believable that he wouldn't put in the work.
 
Unfortunately think he’ll be staying …can’t imagine anyone mug enough to pay his wages
 
Wilt said:
Unfortunately think he’ll be staying …can’t imagine anyone mug enough to pay his wages
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nah he'll be desperate for playing time to get back in the england squad

a transfer was always unlikely early in the window, he's not worth what we're asking

but later in the window a loan move at the very least should happen, as it suits both parties
 
Tarrou said:
nah he'll be desperate for playing time to get back in the england squad

a transfer was always unlikely early in the window, he's not worth what we're asking

but later in the window a loan move at the very least should happen, as it suits both parties
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True. Thankfully the world cup is next year
 
Tarrou said:
nah he'll be desperate for playing time to get back in the england squad

a transfer was always unlikely early in the window, he's not worth what we're asking

but later in the window a loan move at the very least should happen, as it suits both parties
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In the PL? I feel that playing the PL gives a bigger chance of getting into England unless you're at a very good team like RM or bayern (obvious examples).
 
So are we actually able to get rid off him? Haven't read anything except for that ridiculous loan suggestion by the Cheats
 
Hammondo said:
In the PL? I feel that playing the PL gives a bigger chance of getting into England unless you're at a very good team like RM or bayern (obvious examples).
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yeah I agree he'd be best off staying in the PL, I don't know if he'll have a whole lot of options though
 
AlexUTD said:
I just read that he has 3 fecking years left on his insane contract..

We are never going to get rid of him..
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He’s now so rich ….happy to do feck all while watching the money coming in
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Just as long as it's not Barcelona then it'll have to be fine.

Wouldn't surprise me if Antony ends up on another loan next season aswell.
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Yep.
There's no way in hell we should be allowing the likes of Barcelona to be loaning our players.

If they end up doing so, with us paying any contribution to the wages it'll just be madness. But might be deemed the best way to save some money.
 
Just going to loan him out until his contract runs out and he can walk on a free? I would go as low as 20. It's all psr profit right? Get his wages off the books. This isn't the Antony or Sancho situations where they need to sell at at certain price right?
 
AlexUTD said:
That is what i am afraid of..

If he would have any ambition to play in the World Cup next year then he should find a new club but i have no faith in that.
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Why? He's more than likely planning to be involved in the WC so he's going to need football and he's not getting game time here so he's obviously got to leave. Probably won't be a permanent but he won't be here come the season starting.
 
Martinez4midfield said:
Just going to loan him out until his contract runs out and he can walk on a free? I would go as low as 20. It's all psr profit right? Get his wages off the books. This isn't the Antony or Sancho situations where they need to sell at at certain price right?
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Correct, we never bought him. I also think that 20m is realistic and a better option than another loan. Most fans will be disappointed in how little money Rashford, Sancho and Antony will generate. Max 40m.
 
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