Rashford

Should we sell or reintegrate Rashford to the United squad?


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He removed Manchester United player from his Instagram and Twitter bio. Like an 8 year old.

Probably irrelevant but even a small sign of him mentally disassociating is positive - need enough of those to make him feel desperate to get away and maybe he’ll say yes to a pay cut. Doubt it’ll happen but it’s the best case.
 
It’s sad really.

A few years back he was playing at a world class level. He was Manchester born and bred (he does/did a lot with welcoming younger players), and was beloved nationally as a consequence of his feeding children campaigns. Now here we are.
 
It’s sad really.

A few years back he was playing at a world class level. He was Manchester born and bred (he does/did a lot with welcoming younger players), and was beloved nationally as a consequence of his feeding children campaigns. Now here we are.
what does this mean?
 
Amorim made me change my mind, I think we might need to keep Rashford purely because it’s difficult agreeing with any decision he makes

Eh? So we should Keep Rashford, Garnacho, Antony and Sancho instead of bringing in Cunha and Mbeumo?
 
Eh? So we should Keep Rashford, Garnacho, Antony and Sancho instead of bringing in Cunha and Mbeumo?
Cunha and Mbuemo would have been done regardless and were club signings

Antony and Sancho were gone regardless

Rashford and Garnacho was his decision
 
Cunha and Mbuemo would have been done regardless and were club signings

Antony and Sancho were gone regardless

Rashford and Garnacho was his decision

You said it’s difficult to agree with any decision he makes. It’s presumably his input which has steered us towards prioritising Cunha and Mbeumo for the two ten positions. Whether those two players would have been prioritized as club signings had we had a different manager seems no more than idle speculation, but it seems unlikely to me given how well they appear to fit his system.

Antony could have easily been brought back in to the fold had Amorim wanted - he wasn’t shipped off on loan till January.

As a fan it’s impossible for me not to see Garnacho and Rashford moving on as positive steps. They haven’t been good enough, nor committed enough. All of these moves are what gives me hope in Amorim despite our results last season. I struggle to see how a merry go round of managers whilst the same old entitled players stink up the place would have moved us forward as a club.
 
Rashford and Garnacho was his decision

Good call, honestly. Despite the goal, Rashford was strolling around the pitch, unbothered, in Amorim's first game. That was the moment I wanted him gone. He wasn't onboard from minute one.
 
The culture concorted by the passive ownership of the Glazers has created what we see now, plus his family are his agents which means it’s unlikely they’re going to rock the boat and tell him some hard truths.

He may have put up some world class stats once or twice but he’s ultimately a pretty limited player. You can’t really reinvent him like with Giggs or Scholes or Beckham. Those three had all kinds of skills that someone like Rashford would kill for. Rashford has got one style he’s really good at which is pace related but once that pace goes/went, he looks very average.

I still think he’s going to retire by the time he’s 31/32. He’s a lucky son of a bitch if he gets a move to Barcelona and he’d be failing upwards in that respect.
 
what does this mean?

Stuff like hanging out with Kone when he arrived. I've seen similar similar stuff in the past with Nick Cox praising him for mentoring our former player who is now at Marseille not named Angel Gomes (maybe not the best example), JJ Gabriel has thanked him for taking penalties with him. Just small stuff you would want a senior player doing with young players that I have occasionally seen online over the years.
 
It’s sad really.

A few years back he was playing at a world class level. He was Manchester born and bred (he does/did a lot with welcoming younger players), and was beloved nationally as a consequence of his feeding children campaigns. Now here we are.
I’ve no doubt he’s well intentioned, particularly with regards to his food campaign and possibly mentoring younger players (I don’t know if he does that as I’ve no info). The problem is that’s not what we pay him huge wages for. We pay him to be an elite player and give maximum effort on the pitch. Sadly he’s not delivered on that for a long time.
 
That Musiala injury might gather more Bayern interest in Rashford. He won’t see much of this season.
 
All you nutters on here even thinking he will be brought back in to the playing squad for a second are just not living in the real world.

It's not just his low effort in training and low risk style when playing that he's been dropped for. It's his whole persona. I bet Amorim rolls his eyes as much as we all do at his constant pr bullshit and Amorim obviously has done this exact thing before at Sporting. It's what he's known for.
He doesn't like big egos and everything that comes with that.
If Rashford had done the Belfast thing with Amorim as manager we would never have seen him again. Not the little slap on the wrist ethl gave him.
Everyone should understand this by how Garnacho has been dealt with.
If you're not 100% with Amorim you will not be here long.

As for Rashford wanting to go to Barca. The only way this happens is under our terms of a permanent sale and him reducing his wage demands to allow it to happen. Or an obligation to buy loan with no stupid get out fee and all of his lower wages being covered.

If Rashford doesn't make this happen we will keep him and not play him and he won't get anywhere near an England shirt again unless he agrees to finally feck off in January.
There is absolutely no way he will be here after the January window. So we might have to pay him to clean the toilets for a few months but he will not be playing for us again and will be gone by February at the very latest.
 
No I do agree, just seeing a lot of people expressing some kind of regret or sadness over it and it's beyond me.

I actually do feel sadness, not because he is leaving, but because he fecked the chance to be placed in the same sentence with players of the calibre of Rooney, Beckham, Scholes.

He is closer to a Lingard now, with the way he is being pushed out of the club, and having his number 10 shirt stripped of his back. No testimonial, no proper goodbye.

The saddest part is that he has nobody else to blame for being in the situation, but himself. It was just one PR article too many.
 
Swap deal for Yamal?
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The fact that he does get more abuse than MG by the fanbase at large has always felt a bit OTT honestly.

It 100% hasn't worked out recently and a divorce is the best for everyone involved by far but I don't feel the need to hold any sort of real animosity or ill will towards him, Antony or anyone else that we're trying to get rid of especially after the events of this past week.

It's simply a part of football like it is with so many other jobs, nothing more nothing less.

I do feel like there's been extra toxicity within fandom in sports in general these days with advent of social media allowing everyone to have a soap box/platform and people seem to either blur the fact or refuse to consider these players we all watch are in fact human and flawed individuals at the end of the day just like the rest of us in spite of all the money and adulation they receive in their profession.

In this instance in particular it's just a regrettable situation all around for a homegrown player but I've become quite sober about perpetuating any more negativity these days towards things that are relatively quite benign in the grand scheme of things.
It's a shame this is a minority mindset nowadays... My sentiments too
 
I must be getting old or cold, but I feel no sadness over Rashford never playing another minute for us.
We've lost much better and greater players, many sold randomly after winning league titles. Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis, Stam, Beckham, RVN.. even squad players like Butt, Phill Neville, O-Shea, Brown did much more than Rashford will be remembered more fondly.
 
If Barca come close to our valuation (£40m), then Rashford will probably be willing to join them on reduced wages, though I suspect Barca offering anything near that valuation
Well now rumors (debunked) of Ter Stegen to inter, but maybe a way we can swap ter stegen for rashford? Not a direct swap but same price so we get some towards PSR?
 
Why should you? We’ve lost better players before.

I don't get why some people act like wet wipes when it comes to Rashford.

He has shown how limited of a footballer he is, he has shown how little his desire to play for Manchester United is, he has shown how bad his decision making is, he has shown he has no loyalty to his "boyhood club".

He needs to go and it really grinds my gears how the majority of his fanboys would rather blame anybody or anything else for his lack of... well anything, than blame their golden child.
 
Stuff like hanging out with Kone when he arrived. I've seen similar similar stuff in the past with Nick Cox praising him for mentoring our former player who is now at Marseille not named Angel Gomes (maybe not the best example), JJ Gabriel has thanked him for taking penalties with him. Just small stuff you would want a senior player doing with young players that I have occasionally seen online over the years.
I think the young player that Rashford took under his wing was Sancho and that sums it up.
 
It's a shame this is a minority mindset nowadays... My sentiments too
Yeah, that’s a fair view I think. Hoping we can pull off a deal where all 3 parties can get what they want: Rashford an addition to a team challenging for titles in a different country (like Barca or Bayern). He takes a pay cut and gets his move. United get some fee for him - hopefully closer to the £40m valuation and hopefully Barca or Bayern get a fired up, passionate and happy Rashford in their squad. Maybe it’s pipe dreams from my side but here’s hoping.
 
Yeah, that’s a fair view I think. Hoping we can pull off a deal where all 3 parties can get what they want: Rashford an addition to a team challenging for titles in a different country (like Barca or Bayern). He takes a pay cut and gets his move. United get some fee for him - hopefully closer to the £40m valuation and hopefully Barca or Bayern get a fired up, passionate and happy Rashford in their squad. Maybe it’s pipe dreams from my side but here’s hoping.
Yep, and the new signings lead us back up the table helping is to move on.... Hopefully to silverware :cool:


That would be ideal.....