astracrazy
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No, we just well over paid. So a £30M valuation would be fair.I think we can safely say we knocked 40m off his valuation, minimum.
No, we just well over paid. So a £30M valuation would be fair.I think we can safely say we knocked 40m off his valuation, minimum.
I was thinking Don Quixote.And here I was thinking myself a pro greentech kind of guy
I don't know if Rasmus will be good enough long term - at the moment I suspect not however we can't ignore the fact that right now the entire squad is completely devoid of confidence and that will show up in the strikers more than anywhere else where missing 1 chance could very well lose us the match
We're creating very little meaning we simply have to take any chance that comes our way - every miss is magnified, every short pass, every mistimed run it's all compounded with the nerves and pressure the team is under trying to learn this new system whilst losing every week - building confidence in this negative momentum is incredibly hard but Amorim has to find a way to lift the mood because it could get worse yet
Playing a single striker system needs a strong, single minded and generally experienced player to be able to cope with the demands - we don't have that profile anywhere in the club so we're having to make do with 2x prospect players we took a punt on
Aside from trying Garna through the middle (who I think is generally more headstrong but will likely struggle more with the physical) we don't have a choice but to persevere with Rasmus for the rest of the season and hope a purple patch arrives to carry us/him through. He's at least better than Zirk imo
Isn't this record held by RvN?????Because I remember him last season, where he scored 7 games in a row, did great in Europe and he still is young, I still have some hope for him. I still hope that he has "JUST" ended up in a vicious spiral, where things do not work out for him, because the self-confidence is gone for both him and the rest of the team. There is no doubt that he really wants to do well and is frustrated with himself right now.
I am still there that I would prefer Højlund over Jackson from Chelsea, and I believe that Højlund will probably find a better form again at some point.
My slim hopes for Højlund therefore lie in:
- Broke the club record last season for the most consecutive games scored. He was only 20 years old, when he did that.
- Was really good in Europe.
- Still young.
- Continue to do well in Europe this season.
- Has a will to succeed.
I'm probably too naive.![]()
True, Højlund is the youngest player ever to score in six consecutive Premier League games. He scored 7 goals in 6 matches.Isn't this record held by RvN?????
It remains to be seen if we will have even one. Dorgu is completely untested at the level he's about to play in, and Dalot doesn't create anywhere near enough chances.Has he got enough instinct to get onto those square passes that having a proper wingback on both sides will create? Every time i watch him he seems hesitant to gamble in the box.
True, Højlund is the youngest player ever to score in six consecutive Premier League games. He scored 7 goals in 6 matches.
And here there are, if people should have forgot about it or just want to see it again:
Ah, the one with Marlon Brando, right?I was thinking Don Quixote.
True, Højlund is the youngest player ever to score in six consecutive Premier League games. He scored 7 goals in 6 matches.
And here there are, if people should have forgot about it or just want to see it again:
He’s a young player, and i is now the managers job to get the best out of him. It’s normal for players to go through loss of form. Let’s remember the player who potentially could have replaced him, Tel has zero goals this season.
True, Højlund is the youngest player ever to score in six consecutive Premier League games. He scored 7 goals in 6 matches.
And here there are, if people should have forgot about it or just want to see it again:
A terrible player could not do that.I don't really care. He's a terrible player
True, Højlund is the youngest player ever to score in six consecutive Premier League games. He scored 7 goals in 6 matches.
And here there are, if people should have forgot about it or just want to see it again:
Won't lie I still think they're is a player there. No doubt he's been shite this season but i did like what I saw last year.
If we are gonna sell him though we should also sell Zirkzee and sign two new striker instead of 1.
If we are only selling one I'm selling Zirkzee first. He does have strengths but he for sure isn't a striker.
We should sell him and Zirkzee and sign 2 strikers, one of them being Jonathan David, given the opportunity it presents. As for the other, Gyokeres appears to be as good as we can hope for, although I’d love to see us raise some money and go 9 figures for Isak, ideally.
I would keep Hojlund, my reason being:We should sell both and get J. David +1. That said, I’d keep Zirkzee over Hojlund if given a choice. He simply isn’t a non-factor in football matches. Whether he is a natural 9 or not is secondary in comparison to Hojlund who is unable to impact a game in any way. The fact is, neither score enough, but Zirkzee is a player who has qualities to play well without him scoring a goal. If neither are going to score, Zirkzee may at least create a couple of chances or facilitate others.
There’s also the fact that Hojlund would have had his two years by summer, and Zirkzee would only have had one. So if any is to be given more time, I’d give it to him. And also, as pathetic as both of their goalscoring is, Zirkzee has still scored the most out of the two, I would imagine in less time too. It’s a no brainer to me. Still, I’d get rid of both if I can, but I imagine Zirkzee will instead begin his Italian loan affair this summer, and spend a couple of seasons bouncing arounf Juventus and Milan, possibly Roma, before we cut ties.
The optics are bad if we sell Hojlund at the age of 22, a long way off from his supposedly peak years. We are supposed to be a club that develops emerging talent. But it will look like we gave up on him at such an early stage of his career.
The mistake we made was not to get a senior player to teach him the ropes ---- instead we got another young, inexperienced player like Zirkzee. But most careers are not linear. Either the scouts thought he was a sure thing or someone in upper management made a strategic blunder.
It seems like the decision was based on the assumption that Hojlund's career to take-off immediately at United after his 1st season. And its probably the 2nd season syndrome; where the PL defenders have all analysed him and worked out his game. Also, it doesnt help that he has had two managers within 16 months in an unstable team. That would not have helped his development.
Keep him for another season and look for development progress. But get a more senior striker to help him out.
He's winning his aerial duels at a 24% clip this season.
5'9 Vardy is winning 52%. 5'7 duo Bryan Mbuemo and Adam Armstrong - both played at 9 for stretches this season - are sitting at 30 and 35% respectively.
There isn't a starting 9 in the league with a lower win %.
Said it before but unfortunately he brings all the negatives of a big number 9 with absolutely none of the positives.
Definitely agree, if we had kept an experienced striker like Ronaldo og Ibra, he might become the next Van PersieThe optics are bad if we sell Hojlund at the age of 22, a long way off from his supposedly peak years. We are supposed to be a club that develops emerging talent. But it will look like we gave up on him at such an early stage of his career.
The mistake we made was not to get a senior player to teach him the ropes ---- instead we got another young, inexperienced player like Zirkzee. But most careers are not linear. Either the scouts thought he was a sure thing or someone in upper management made a strategic blunder.
It seems like the decision was based on the assumption that Hojlund's career to take-off immediately at United after his 1st season. And its probably the 2nd season syndrome; where the PL defenders have all analysed him and worked out his game. Also, it doesnt help that he has had two managers within 16 months in an unstable team. That would not have helped his development.
Keep him for another season and look for development progress. But get a more senior striker to help him out.
So he loses 75% of his aerial duels and some how thats down to our build up play? As you describe it, it sounds like he is the problem with our build up play. If he was winning his headers it would help.It's just a symptom of our shit build up play and needing to go long all the time. We go long quite a bit more to the striker's head (not even striker making a run into the channel) and try to win the second ball.
True, Højlund is the youngest player ever to score in six consecutive Premier League games. He scored 7 goals in 6 matches.
And here there are, if people should have forgot about it or just want to see it again:
All other things aside I’d wish people would stop making pseudo arguments like this. I’m sure you can find a player somewhere on the globe who jumps extremely high and is a good header despite being short. That doesn’t mean height doesn’t matter for most players’ heading ability - just like most strikers peak at 27-ish these days.The mistake is not about age. Owen was world class at that age
Keep telling yourself these fables. Getting older does not mean you will suddenly get better. It's not a linear regression. Hojlund lacks the fundamentals and instinct of a top striker. First touch, passing, dribbling, movement. You can't improve on something you don't have.All other things aside I’d wish people would stop making pseudo arguments like this. I’m sure you can find a player somewhere on the globe who jumps extremely high and is a good header despite being short. That doesn’t mean height doesn’t matter for most players’ heading ability - just like most strikers peak at 27-ish these days.