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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 52
- Goals
- 10
- Assists
- 2
- Yellow cards
- 2
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
Its pointless passing to him, might as well boot it out of play.
It's gross negligence if we go into next season with him anything better than 3rd in the pecking order.
He's absolutely shocking. Get rid.
I actually thought Hojlund had a decent game against West Ham. He held the ball up well, had some decent link up play and made some good runs in behind. He also got himself two chances and yes he should have scored from at least one of them and on another day might have.
His numbers from the last few games are much better and it seems like himself and the team are starting to understand how to bring him into the game.
Yes, we need a first choice oven ready striker in the summer but I do think there is a player in there.
His numbers from the last few games are much better and it seems like himself and the team are starting to understand how to bring him into the game.
Yes, we need a first choice oven ready striker in the summer but I do think there is a player in there.
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he's disaster, but I don't really blame him for not scoring that chance. I was certain he will score, but it was simply a very good save as well.
He's an absolute Trainwreck.
His holdup play was better yesterday but he cannot do the only job of a striker which is to score goals. On 3 occasions he had great chances and he should have scored at least one of them.
I'm also in the false 9 brigade but I just don't think amorims system has space for that kind of player. It relies on the striker heavily to push the opposition back and be the main threat.
I'm also in the false 9 brigade but I just don't think amorims system has space for that kind of player. It relies on the striker heavily to push the opposition back and be the main threat.
There’s no chance we will shift to a false 9 at this point. Hojlund’s form has been truly desperate all season, especially since Amorim arrived. Despite that, Amorim has just kept picking him whenever he can. As it stands, Hojlund and Rashford have still both scored the same number of league goals for Amorim - and it’s now 5 months since Rashford last played for us.
He’s never given Zirkzee a run of matches as the starting 9 and he’s never tried any other option for more than one game at a time. He’s just kept picking and picking Hojlund. Whenever I’ve thought that’s finally the end, back he comes again after a one match rest. It’s probably the decision which gives me most concern about Amorim’s player judgement and ability to turn things around next season.
He’s never given Zirkzee a run of matches as the starting 9 and he’s never tried any other option for more than one game at a time. He’s just kept picking and picking Hojlund. Whenever I’ve thought that’s finally the end, back he comes again after a one match rest. It’s probably the decision which gives me most concern about Amorim’s player judgement and ability to turn things around next season.
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It’s terrible, but this was my initial thought too.
I agree, but who else could we have tried? We only had 3 forwards after January Window shut. It's not like we're blessed with options. We got so desperate we've even given Obi a go. He's just a kid, has some flashes but it's clear he's not ready yet.
I think Garna could play as a forward and push oppo back. Just from sheer tenacity he would keep making the runs behind and force defences deeper.
Spurs have nothing to worry about Hojlund and for that reason I wouldn't start him.
I would cram the middle and have Garnacho as the out-ball uptop.
I would cram the middle and have Garnacho as the out-ball uptop.
I’d play Amad or Garnacho through the middle, just anybody else at this point really
I don't really think this is accurate. There was a period where he alternated between playing Zirkzee and Højlund up front, which generally ended up with the starting striker playing poorly and the sub being a little better. Then Zirkzee gradually started to improve and play more, but was used in the #10 spot as well (his best position) so that meant Højlund still got opportunities. But just before his injury, Zirkzee started a few PL games as striker instead of Højlund (Forest and Newcastle).
I think if Zirkzee was fit, we would have seen less Højlund recently.
We will have to disagree on that. I think it’s quite clear that Amorim nailed his colours completely to Hojlund as his starting 9.
The matches you refer to, especially the Newcastle one, were after Amorim had decided to prioritise the Europa. As such, we saw Zirkzee pick up a season ending injury 4 days before the Lyon match. I’d have been wrapping Zirkzee in cotton wool at that point, but instead it was Hojlund being saved for the Lyon match.
At this point I just feel sorry for Hojlund. I cannot honestly be pissed off with him because I don't consider it to be his fault. He's got a good attitude, and it's evident to me that he applies himself, but he is just in way above his head.
People's ire for this utter mess should be with John Murtough, Richard Arnold, and Erik ten Hag. They're the ones who collectively decided that it was prudent to spend £70 million on a striker who had never once scored 10 goals in a single fecking season and make him the primary option up top.
The amount of damage those three have done to this club with just two years of utterly fecking insane recruitment is staggering.
People's ire for this utter mess should be with John Murtough, Richard Arnold, and Erik ten Hag. They're the ones who collectively decided that it was prudent to spend £70 million on a striker who had never once scored 10 goals in a single fecking season and make him the primary option up top.
The amount of damage those three have done to this club with just two years of utterly fecking insane recruitment is staggering.
I'm also in the false 9 brigade.. I worry about Hojlund against Romero and Van der Ven.. They'll make mince meat out of him.. Mount as false 9 with late arrivals in to the box with Amad and Garnacho or Bruno might work better.
Well that’s new, wishing injury on our own players. Disgusting
During the summer of 2023, the club was up for sale and the guys running things (Murtough, Arnold) knew that they were going to be replaced soon. They had no reason to be prudent with the money given the circumstances. 70m on Hojlund, 60m on Mount, 50m on Onana. 180m all down the drain. That's a lot of Sir Jim's money frittered away in one fell swoop. I hope he was watching very closely that summer and making allowances in his discretionary spending for all the money the club were freely wasting while the ''temp guys'' were in charge.
Yea it is terrible. Be better
Agree. Appalling to wish injury on any player, even worse for your own team.
There's just no player in there. There's a brute who might be ok when on form, and absolutely dog when off form.
Can't fault the effort or attitude, but it's hard when your talent ceiling is something in the region of Andy Carroll.
Can't fault the effort or attitude, but it's hard when your talent ceiling is something in the region of Andy Carroll.
Absolutely.
I guess with Onana, the fee could be somewhat justified at the time. He had just reached at a Champions League final with Inter and would probably have been regarded as one of the top ten keepers in world football at the time we bought him. Even with Mount, while I think £60 million was an eye-watering sum given his injury record even prior to joining, he had at least played at a very high level for several seasons at Chelsea.
Hojlund literally had about half a season where he performed quite well for Atalanta and we decided that was worth £70 million. I'm just completely at a lost as to how anyone sound of mine could sanction that, especially given that these same people had already made the exact same fecking mistake to the tune of even more money with Antony.
He's probably worse than Andy Carrol in truth. At least in that period Liverpool had Suarez and Sturridge, It's truly mental how shite our attacking options are.
It's been a decade of sabotage with the forward options we've had available.
I stick up for him way more then he probably deserves (mainly because he seems like a decent/fun bloke) ... but if you're not slamming that chance home, when you're already struggling for goals, then you really have no business being our number 9.
I honestly don't Amorim has had much choice. Chido doesn't look ready (and look at the doomsaying in the Amass thread to see why it's rarely good to rush youngsters) and Zirkzee, for all his qualities, is anything but clinical (and was much better playing in one of the 10 positions.)
Hojlund won the penalty and created the second goal in the away March vs Bilbao. He then scored against them in the home tie.
Regardless of his performances in the PL, he has had tangible output in the Europa. It doesn’t make any sense to drop him from the final.
Spurs can be open at times and that type of game is good for him.
Regardless of his performances in the PL, he has had tangible output in the Europa. It doesn’t make any sense to drop him from the final.
Spurs can be open at times and that type of game is good for him.
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Yes but he's playing a Prem side in the final and we know how that goes.
If we have enough defenders fit for the EL final, can we just play Maguire as a CF? He’d be much more useful than Hoijlund.
Wishing injury on the lad.
This club really does have some rotten fans.
This club really does have some rotten fans.
His horrible technique means he does not know what to do with ball on his feet most of the time.
His horrible positioning means he does not know where to be and how to read the game.
He is tall, fairly strong and quick too, but that's all he has, he does not posses the basic capabilities required in a striker.
His horrible positioning means he does not know where to be and how to read the game.
He is tall, fairly strong and quick too, but that's all he has, he does not posses the basic capabilities required in a striker.
This. All our attacks absolutely die when it reaches him, instead we end up facing an attack from the opposition?
What game were you watching? Was horrible with his hold up and the runs are useless when he just ends up wasting it anyway.
He did rotate them quite a bit but they both had runs of games when the one coming on as a sub looked much better than the starter. Zirkzee did pick up form and would've been the first choice now but got injured.
Honestly it's a bit baffling how much he's regressed since last season. Watching his highlights from last season he looks like a different player. He looked more agile, so much more energy and his finishing was deadly. Just looking at the goal he scored against the same team last year, followed by the guitar celebration, deadly finish with his weak foot too!
There is a player in there, but he's so shot on confidence right now, nothing seems to work for him. There's no way we recoup what we paid for him, even at his current PSR value. Best case scenario is get him out on a good loan or have him be the 3rd option where there is less pressure on him to perform.
Right now, Usain Bolt would be a better option. Bebe would be a better option!
Imagine the scenes if we put Maguire up top in the final from the start deploy long ball tactic and bombard him all game with crosses in the box, and he scores a hattrick of headers. 
It's disgusting.
Expectations have been waaay to high from the beginning. He probably doesn't have what it takes to play for United, but he sure as hell hasn't gotten any help at all. His characteristics was meant to suit Ten Hags playing style, and he did score some very good goals along the way. It should never be the responsibility of a 20 year old kid, to lead the United frontline on his own. When I read all this abuse, I always think about the time when we had Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez and Berbatov at the same time. Rasmus never had a fair chance to prove his worth.
It's the same narrative whenever we sign a new player - no matter how old or experienced. We pin all of our hopes on his shoulders. If he doesn't revolutionize the team, he'll be slaughtered by the "supporters".
I hope he scores the winning goal in the EL final. And then finds a team that will appreciate him.
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This would actually be a dream scenario. Hard to top it.
I am desperately hoping that Mount, Mainoo and Amad being back fit, along with the fact that it is a final we must win, makes him look at that as an option. Surely he can try Mount or Mainoo again in that role for a bit ahead of the final. We cannot play against Spurs with 10 men.
Do you genuinely think he offers nothing when he doesn’t score? He’s always struck me as quite an annoying player to play against.
Mainoo is also getting that treatment.