We should rent him out but not to Inter where he’ll be second fiddle.
Gametime in a lesser league -> Better player -> Sale
Gametime in a lesser league -> Better player -> Sale
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 52
- Goals
- 10
- Assists
- 2
- Yellow cards
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
I think it all stems from the mindset "A good fan shall show unconditional support to the players and managers of the club"
Well the last 15 years changed things a lot.
In his 2nd season Berbatov scored 12 goals and made 6 assists in 35 league games, also making key passes, missing chances, having chances missed after his pass etc.
He provided moments of genius.
He was truly elite player and yet he got completely smashed with criticism, with people calling him expensive flop etc.
Back then fans were with horrible attitude towards a well performing 30 milliom striker.
Nowadays Hojlund, costing us 75 million, drops a 4 goals 0 assists in 32 games season, while not registering a shot on target or accurate pass for most of the games, and gets excused again and again.
He is 22 and cost us Ronaldo level money, yet gives us below Weghorst level of football.
Remember Ronaldo at 22?
Can't justify anything about Rasmus, sorry. You don't spend that much money on "potential", you spend this money on someone who gives you elite performances.
For 2 seasons best we got were a few "good games".
Sell and never look back.
In his 2nd season Berbatov scored 12 goals and made 6 assists in 35 league games, also making key passes, missing chances, having chances missed after his pass etc.
He provided moments of genius.
He was truly elite player and yet he got completely smashed with criticism, with people calling him expensive flop etc.
Back then fans were with horrible attitude towards a well performing 30 milliom striker.
Nowadays Hojlund, costing us 75 million, drops a 4 goals 0 assists in 32 games season, while not registering a shot on target or accurate pass for most of the games, and gets excused again and again.
He is 22 and cost us Ronaldo level money, yet gives us below Weghorst level of football.
Remember Ronaldo at 22?
Can't justify anything about Rasmus, sorry. You don't spend that much money on "potential", you spend this money on someone who gives you elite performances.
For 2 seasons best we got were a few "good games".
Sell and never look back.
I've noticed that. A lot of newer fans with zero standards who want average/poor players to stay just because they like them. I remember when we used to banter Liverpool and then arsenal for signing dross and saying they were good enough, look at us now.
I completely agree with all of this. Our standards are through the floor. I only care about the club and the team and you cannot for a moment convince me that our lack of goals didn’t hurt us last season and contribute to our woeful league position. Onana was at fault too but he still somehow managed to outperform his expected saves. Rasmus was our main striker so can someone with more knowledge than me explain was he wasn’t even in the top 5 for our team regarding shots taken all season. Why is it Harry Maguire gets lumped up front and takes more shots in 10 minutes than Rasmus does in 5 games. Why does Chido come on and immediately take more shots and get involved and cause issues. I’m looking for a honest answer here instead of ‘there’s a player in there’? Where? Where is the player?
sometimes "good" things go in to text books to teach the next generation how to do things right.
This one should also go in as an example of how to do things wrong - sell and never repeat the same mistake !
People seem to have forgotten how he scored 7 goals for Denmark in a single year. And that he is the the youngest-ever player to score in six successive Premier League games.
Also people forgot about how he helped his nation beat Portugal with a solitary goal. And how he scored 6 Europa goals this seasons and he was one of the top scorers for last season Europa as well!
Also people forgot about how he helped his nation beat Portugal with a solitary goal. And how he scored 6 Europa goals this seasons and he was one of the top scorers for last season Europa as well!
With all due respect nobody is forgetting that - but we’re also aware that he was statistically one of the worst forwards in the league last season, he has massive technical shortcomings… in fact I don’t need to go on here because many previous posters have documented the main issues including myself. Rasmus is not good enough right now to play for this club. He’s had two seasons. Are we really in a position to wait for him to improve - we are bringing in a new striker, personally I would keep Zirkzee as a second striker because I truly think Cunha and Mbeumo can play with Zirkzee and benefit from his link-up and hold-up play. Does Rasmus want to be a league cup striker? We don’t have as many games next season. I’d rather Chido get those minutes anyway. Where does he fit?
Sounds great for a 20 million striker. Or academy product.
Nobody argues that sometimes he scores.
His overall game is shocking and the price tag is unbelievable.
Dolberg also scored a bunch for Denmark, should we spend 75 million on him? Goal was all Hojlund did against Portugal. And it meant nothing since they lost the tie.
A 75 million striker should be scoring 10+ goals in this Europa league format EASILY.
He is not proactive, he is not missing chances, he is not helping our attacks, rather destroys them with his terrible first touch.
No purple patch (for 6 games) justifies anything about him.
If he really loves our club, he should leave, haven't seen anything from him to warrant another full season with us, Garnacho has 21 G/A and is being shipped out, this guy is a striker and is terrible at his job, not made for PL. Hoping inter do another Lukaku and save us from awful Rasmus...
We’ve forgotten that because his play has been dog shit for an entire month.
He’s scored the odd flurry of goals over a few matches but then failed to score in like 90%+ of his games at United and his all round play is fecking turd.
In short he’s rubbish and needs selling.
I think you’ve forgotten all the league games this season where he’s looked and played like a competition winner. At best.
He’s been awful, truly awful this season and we cannot go into next season with him in anything but bit part role.
That particular statistic is pretty much as random as it gets. It means something only if you want it to.
Good players, especially attackers can have bad seasons in terms of production while still showing a high level of technical ability in their overall play.
With those type of players, when people say "I see a player in him" you can understand why, you can see the potential if the final ball clicks. With Rasmus there is so little there to point to as a strong element, he can finish, there is that, but beyond finishing he has shown virtually nothing in 2 years. Poor technique, poor movement, abysmal in the air, nothing defensively, poor in general play, poor use of his physicality.
All those flaws were there in his first season as well, that is why he was dropped to end the season, at this stage, best case scenario he ends up a very poor mans Lukaku.
With those type of players, when people say "I see a player in him" you can understand why, you can see the potential if the final ball clicks. With Rasmus there is so little there to point to as a strong element, he can finish, there is that, but beyond finishing he has shown virtually nothing in 2 years. Poor technique, poor movement, abysmal in the air, nothing defensively, poor in general play, poor use of his physicality.
All those flaws were there in his first season as well, that is why he was dropped to end the season, at this stage, best case scenario he ends up a very poor mans Lukaku.
My biggest fear is that we are somehow stupid/naive enough not to bring a new striker in. As good as our window has been so far(provided we sign Mbuemo), that scenario would erase any positivity for me. The same goes for Onana being our no1 next season, but at least we've heard more news in that department.
Worst player in United's history who keeps getting picked. Imagine if SAF tries to play Bebe often enough hoping he becomes good. It is the kind of crap he will never do.
Stop being weird. The lad has 25 goals for us playing at the age of 20-22 more than he should have. He's been disappointing and a change of scenery would probably do him good, but this sort of hyperbole is silly.
I'm kinda starting to feel sorry for him.
young kid, joined a club he supported - but it just didn't happen for him. I feel like I initially saw flashes of quality, but he's been regressing at crazy speeds. Hopefully gets his career back on track. Seems like a good kid all in all
young kid, joined a club he supported - but it just didn't happen for him. I feel like I initially saw flashes of quality, but he's been regressing at crazy speeds. Hopefully gets his career back on track. Seems like a good kid all in all
Berbatov was way older, and 30m back then got you world class levels of talent. He also was not good in 09/10, and when we did need him in Rooney's absence he choked against Blackburn and Chelsea and basically cost us the league. He was a very talented player but he was never that great for us. Even the next year when he did score plenty he got over half of his goals in 3 games.
Not great for him that two other strikers are now grabbing goals for Denmark after he got his chance last game. He might actually be third choice for the national team.
He needs to spend the summer reviewing footage and improving his footballing IQ has a centre forward.
Some of the choices he makes is just poor - i think Amorim has had enough of him.
Some of the choices he makes is just poor - i think Amorim has had enough of him.
I worry about Chido-Obi's age, 17 as of today. The prem is a tough league for anyone that young who isn't built like a tank. Cameo minutes, for sure, but if Gyokeres goes down for a few weeks Chido-Obi just won't be ready to start for us.
I feel sorry for hojlund, the price tag was high, service was poor, he should never been coming in so young and experienced to be our main striker also.
Ideally he would have had an experienced striker ahead of him getting cameos learning more etc and not having all the pressure.
Hopefully if he does move on he finds a club that just suits him the pressure isn’t as great and he gets his confidence, there’s a player in there just needs found and nurtured.
Ideally he would have had an experienced striker ahead of him getting cameos learning more etc and not having all the pressure.
Hopefully if he does move on he finds a club that just suits him the pressure isn’t as great and he gets his confidence, there’s a player in there just needs found and nurtured.
That's a good point.
Honestly this has to be rage-bait at this point.
They never actually tell you what he is good at because they can't....they tell you it's bad service, low confidence and that 'there is a player in there'. It's all they have apart from the argument of him scoring a few goals in his first season....that's it.
True but i dont think we can afford to buy 2 experienced strikers. Obi and Biancheri will be th back up strikers
He’s scored in 13 premier league games. That means he’s failed to score in 80% of his games.
He’s managed to score more than 1 goal on 1 occasion when he scored 2 goals against Luton.
That’s our main striker. He’s played 62 games and has failed to score in 49(!) of them.
So he must be useful elsewhere right?! Well no not in the slightest. In 62 games he’s also only had 3 assists.
He’s fecking toilet. It’s not “oh with a better team around him he will do much better”. It’s “without him in the team they will do much better”.
He has then scored 1 goal for Denmark in the 16 games he's played after that year. One goal in 2024 and 2025.
Sorry but those 6 goals were so scrappy or unimpressive.
Every time ‘there’s a player in there’ is stated, I can’t help but think of this:
Like a Black Mirror episode.
I’ve nothing against the kid, but can’t think of anything comparable to this in the sense of a player going from this bad to do anything noteworthy at the top end of the game.
Forlan had a torrid time here, but he looked unlucky or “cursed” because his shooting boots were seemingly left in Uruguay. Outside of his shooting, he was fine, and many of the chances he flubbed were of his own making. Falcao looked like he came back from injury way, way too soon, to the point it was baffling that he passed the medical to be here. Tevez (second season) just looked like there was disgruntlement as an undercurrent.
Forlan, Falcao and Tevez… players of great repute had bad periods here, but didn’t look half as bad as Højlund or like the PL itself was too much for them. These are the kind of players with the ability to go on and have impressive careers. Højlund doesn’t stand in the same field as these guys from the outset to go on and have a top level career after this. Honestly, it would be miraculous to see him go from this bad to being a quality, impactful player who a club like this could regret letting go.
Højlund is more tangential to the likes of: Weghorst, Ighalo, Macheda. The Premier League has proven to be too much for him. So many posts blame others for Højlund’s failings and deficiencies, but in isolation, you cannot have his first touch, movement and processing of the game going on around him and blame other players for it. These things are as personal and individualised as can be and they are the foundations of the footballer as a whole, which is why it looks like his goose is cooked here - there’s no part of his game that you look at and think ‘that just needs a little tweaking and we’re on to a winner,’ is there?
Now, that bumbling foal might go on to be a wonder horse, but Manchester United is not the proving ground to find that out. A buy back set for his next contract makes more sense than a loan to me, because his game doesn’t look 1yr or even 18 months from fixing. I would honestly be astounded if he turns his game around to the point he’s a viable player in a CL-quality United squad, lest we forget what are aspirations actually are.
Like a Black Mirror episode.
I’ve nothing against the kid, but can’t think of anything comparable to this in the sense of a player going from this bad to do anything noteworthy at the top end of the game.
Forlan had a torrid time here, but he looked unlucky or “cursed” because his shooting boots were seemingly left in Uruguay. Outside of his shooting, he was fine, and many of the chances he flubbed were of his own making. Falcao looked like he came back from injury way, way too soon, to the point it was baffling that he passed the medical to be here. Tevez (second season) just looked like there was disgruntlement as an undercurrent.
Forlan, Falcao and Tevez… players of great repute had bad periods here, but didn’t look half as bad as Højlund or like the PL itself was too much for them. These are the kind of players with the ability to go on and have impressive careers. Højlund doesn’t stand in the same field as these guys from the outset to go on and have a top level career after this. Honestly, it would be miraculous to see him go from this bad to being a quality, impactful player who a club like this could regret letting go.
Højlund is more tangential to the likes of: Weghorst, Ighalo, Macheda. The Premier League has proven to be too much for him. So many posts blame others for Højlund’s failings and deficiencies, but in isolation, you cannot have his first touch, movement and processing of the game going on around him and blame other players for it. These things are as personal and individualised as can be and they are the foundations of the footballer as a whole, which is why it looks like his goose is cooked here - there’s no part of his game that you look at and think ‘that just needs a little tweaking and we’re on to a winner,’ is there?
Now, that bumbling foal might go on to be a wonder horse, but Manchester United is not the proving ground to find that out. A buy back set for his next contract makes more sense than a loan to me, because his game doesn’t look 1yr or even 18 months from fixing. I would honestly be astounded if he turns his game around to the point he’s a viable player in a CL-quality United squad, lest we forget what are aspirations actually are.
Rasmus isnt good enough for United. I had high hopes for him in the beginning but he never really managed to get involved enough in our play. If we can sell him to Inter we should do that.
He isnt good enough. Period. If you think 25 goals as a forward over 2 seasons and so many games is more than he should have, then the standard of United's expectation has seriously fallen off a cliff.
Forget the goals, if anyone has watched us play and thinks he is even semi decent.. needs their eyes tested.
I had such high hopes for him but he has not helped himself, he has been given every opportunity and he has not looked like he wants to improve.
He struggles to do the basics of controlling a football, we cannot have that level of player in our squad.
Agreed
I'm 100% clinging onto something. I don't think I've really cared a whole lot about ins and outs and United for a number of years but heading into this next season I'm feeling a bit of a spark back.
Hoijlund is my bet, my contrary opinion. Every other option for a comeback story just seems to far gone. I'd love to instead be hoping for Rashford or Sancho to turn things around but they just seem to be completely sour. Hoijlund feels like a possible feel good story or what, yet another $50million plus transfer United has completely fluffed.
Tell us then, what qualities do you see in him to be clinging onto the hope he will eventually be good enough for United or the PL in general? There must be something you have seen?
Or is it just the transfer fee and for that reason you want to give him more time?
Yes Hojlund does have much better attitudes when compared with the likes of Sancho or Rashford.
He's also extremely fast and will be a useful player during counterattack. Also a great poacher.
He's also extremely fast and will be a useful player during counterattack. Also a great poacher.
How can you be useful on a counter attack if your first touch and link up play are horrendous?
How can you be a great poacher if you are always late to/don't even attempt to reach almost every single rebound or cutback in the 6 yard box?
I saw a report that Napoli are interested in Zirkzee in a swap for Osimhen. I would keep Hojlund if that is the case as we need two strikers and he still might do reasonably without the pressure of being the main man. If nothing, it might help increase his transfer value a season down the line.
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